Comments on: Vaccine Case: An Exception Or A Precedent?

First Family To Have Autism-Related Case "Conceded" Is Just One Of Thousands

[prairiemom1]

I would much rather have an Autistic child than one who has some dieases that have not been seen in the last 50 years- rubella, whooping cough, TB, Poilo...
Posted by dbtmellis

Not seen in 50 years?? Here in Kansas whooping cough shut several schools(full of vaccinated children) down a year or so ago. Rubella used to be like chickenpox, a normal childhood disease that caused nothing more than a rash in most children.

[dbtmellis]

Quote:"dtmellis is a Big Pharma agent please ignore " My Response: Here we go again, assuming something that is not true, some people have become experts at assuming thing that they really have no idea about. What makes you think that i support or work for Big Anything?

[gaye5]

The number of immunocompromised people in the United States is enormous:
It is estimated that at least 10%, or more than 28 million people have eczema. [11]
More than 8.5 million people have cancer. [12]
There are reported to be 850,000 individuals with diagnosed and undiagnosed HIV infection or AIDS [13] and
Based on 2001 data, there were 184,000 organ recipients [14]
An even more extensive list of at-risk people includes the untold millions on drugs called corticosteroids. Prednisone., Medrol., and a variety of similar medications are given to both adults and children. These drugs are prescribed for dozens of conditions including asthma; allergies; eczema; emphysema; Crohn''s disease; multiple sclerosis; herniated spinal discs; acute muscular pain syndromes; and all types of rheumatoid and autoimmune diseases. As much as 60% of the entire population could be considered to be "chemically immunosuppressed." It is important to realize that FluMist is CONTRAINDICATED for people who are immunocompromised. People who receive FluMist and are living with an immunocompromised person put their loved at risk.

[gaye5]

However, FluMist contains live (attenuated) influenza viruses that replicate in the nasopharynx of the vaccine recipient. The most common side effects include "cough, runny nose/nasal congestion, irritability, headaches, chills, muscle aches and fever 1000 F." These symptoms are nearly identical to those the flu vaccine is designed to prevent.

It has been documented that the live viruses from the vaccine can be spread into the community for more than 21 days after immunization through sneezing. Therefore, the risk for spreading%u2014live viruses throughout a school, church, workplace is very high. An epidemic will ensuring more people will buy this product, so could this be called making a market for your product.

In the section of the FlumMist package insert labeled "PRECAUTIONS," the manufacturer states the following warning:

"FluMist. recipients should avoid close contact with immunocompromised individuals for at least 21 days."

The warning is specifically directed toward those living in the same household with an immunocompromised person, but the on-going release of live viruses throughout the community may be a significant risk to everyone who has a weak, or weakened, immune system.

[gaye5]

FluMist, generic drug name intranasal influenza vaccine, is the first live influenza vaccine administered as a nasal spray.
Hundreds of TV and print advertisements have been designed to persuade everyone into taking the FluMist plunge. The campaign will be the "most intense, direct-to-consumer marketing campaign ever waged for a vaccine," costing an estimated $25 million over the next 2.5 months [2]. In addition, Wyeth, MedImmune''s partner, plans a three-year, $100 million campaign to encourage use of the nasal flu vaccine among physicians.[3]

Apparently, the goal seems to center around frightening%u2014or inducing enough guilt%u2014that everyone would begin to demand the vaccine as soon as it is available. And at nearly $70 a dose, this will be a financial bonanza for MedImmune and Wyeth, who are expecting the vaccine to become the blockbuster new drug that will push MedImmune''s revenues to more than $1billion/year.

[gaye5]

We all seem to have forgotten that these pharmecutical companies are the very people who bring us depression tablets which turned out to cause people to committe suicide, or gave pregnant women a safe morning sickness pill called Thalimomide which caused children to be born without arms or legs etc and many of their children also have no arms and legs. These same pharmaceutical companies loved our children so much that they allowed mercury in immunization many decades after it was thought to cause alzheimer''s, along with other horrible chemicals, and we all know what Vioxx and Duract did to us for pain killing, it killed, but we were told that it was far safer than anything else, but oh, they made trillions before they admitted that there might be a problem and it took many thousands a week to suffer before they were forced to admit that there was a problem and when they couldnt cover up with any more lies they took it off the market, I have lists of drugs which have gone wrong, eventually admitted by medical journals.

[teeus]

Since you are hung up on the mercury issue, thought I''''d give an alternative to the injected flu vaccine. The question was actually rhetorical. I know there is no thimerosal (mercury) in FluMist.
Posted by rf35

Since. Im. Hung. Up. On. Mercury. ???

Troll.

Did you read the article? Or any of the posts?

[gaye5]

In many cases the vaccine additives are far more toxic than the viral component. This is particularly true for thimerosal which is mercury.

What no one is talking about is how the old vaccine got made. No vaccine production is very pretty (whooping cough uses the mucus of infected children, typhoid, the excrement of victims), but this is one of the few derived from human blood specifically, the blood products of homosexual men who have had hepatitis.
Could this be why 1 in 5 American kids are chronically sick...(Source: Journal of the American Medical Association, 2007; 297: 2755-9).
And why do they give all our children hep b injections when it is only high risk adults who on the whole get the disease???

[gaye5]

You cant tell me that pumping 13 or more diseases (suposedly dead viruses) into our children at one injection, along with Ethylene glycol (antifreeze,)Formaldehyde a known cancer causing agent
* Aluminum which is associated with Alzheimer disease, and Congress "strongly recommended" , that the Pharmaceutical Company take the thimerosol out of vaccines....it was not mandated; simply recommended.

(CBS/AP) About 300,000 U.S. children have been diagnosed with autism, according to the largest national study so far of the prevalence of this complex behavioral disorder.

That means about 5.5 out of every 1,000 school-age children have been diagnosed with autism.

[gaye5]

teeus, they try to use the arguments that if your child is not vaccinated then he/she cant go to school as he/she is a risk to the other children, now it is about time we started thinking for ourselves. IF immunization works then WHY would an unvaccinated child be a risk to those who were vaccinated???????.

Two of my grand kids have got bad doses of chickenpox even after they were vaccinated... and my daughters child stopped breathing and went blue in my arms after vaccination, and had to be revived, and she had to then spend time in hospital then 6 months on something which told her parents that she had stopped breathing which she did a few times.. nothing wrong before the immunization but problems after.. If she had of been in her bed when she stopped breathing it would just have been counted as another cot death.
We hear enough from the media now in regards the damages that many drugs are doing to people which have suposed to have been tested, (on whom) so isnt it time that we looked at the effect of immunization on many thousands of children who either die or are damaged every month.. the damage done by immunization seems to out weigh the damage that used to be done on the disease, but the media wont print it, WHY???.

[rf35]

Since you are hung up on the mercury issue, thought I''d give an alternative to the injected flu vaccine. The question was actually rhetorical. I know there is no thimerosal (mercury) in FluMist.

[teeus]

I''''ve been snorting FluMist for the last two flu seasons. Any mercury in those?
Posted by rf35

No, since you asked. Not sure WHY you asked.

[rf35]

Hmmmmm. Maybe the truth part? Cause thats NOT true. There is mercury in the flu shot you took this year.
Posted by teeus

Hmmmmm. Didn''t take a flu shot this year. I''ve been snorting FluMist for the last two flu seasons. Any mercury in those?

[teeus]

"...There are NO cases of Autism amongst Amish children, they do not have the vaccinations..."

We are on the same side, so I dont mean to nitpick, but if youre going to put out info, make sure its accurate.

There most certainly are cases of autism among the Amish. However, the instances are approx. 1 in 10,000 births and opposed to 1 in 150 births in the general population.

Autism has always existed--there are folks stories fromt he middle ages about "fairy children" from other worlds. But it was much, much more rare.

[teeus]

mamabear9397, what part of THERE IS NO MERCURY IN THE VACCINES isn''''t getting through?
Posted by MyOpinion1

Hmmmmm. Maybe the truth part? Cause thats NOT true. There is mercury in the flu shot you took this year.

[teeus]

I would much rather have an Autistic child than one who has some dieases that have not been seen in the last 50 years- rubella, whooping cough, TB, Poilo...
Posted by dbtmellis

Okay. Give me your address. Ill send my son over to your house for a week.

[teeus]

All I know is, I HAD all those childhood shots, and nothing EVER happened as a result, none made me get sick nor do I have autism, so either I have a stronger constitution and immune system than your kids with autism, or they have defective ones, thats not the vaccines fault, if it was then 100% of those given it would be affected.
Posted by newster1

How nice for you.

You do realize that the theory is that there are certain children who have an abnormality that stops their bodies from being able to expele heavy metals like mercury, right? So, if you are one of the folks who doesnt have this issue, you can chug-a-lug the mercury for all I care.

But for the other kids, the overload of mercury to their system causes damage.

If mercury is OK to put in shots, why did they ban it YEARS ago from shots for our pets? Hint: It was unhealthy and dangerous.

Thanks GOD Fido is safe, while we still put our children at risk.

[tmittelstaed]

The Poling case is an exception but what is also a dirty little secret is that it isn''t necessary to have 100% of the population vaccinated against a disease to prevent an epidemic. It takes a critical mass of unvaccinated people for an epidemic to be able to form and spread to all unvaccinated people in the population.
Medical providers have to do a better job of pre-vaccination screening, for crying out loud we pay them a mint. Last time my kids were in for their vaccinations the bill was $500, and as my insurance doesn''t cover preventative care, and all of those are defined as preventative, I had to pay full rate for each of those shots, I didn''t get the Insurance-negotiated rate. Each of the shots were at least $70 bucks and wern''t even administered by a doctor, a nurse practitioner gave ''em. What a total frickin scam - vaccinations for my dog were only $5 each - as medical consumers we are getting royally ripped off here, the least that the pharmaceutical companies can do is develop a screening test.

[teeus]

Ok all of those out there who refuse to vaccinate there kids, how are you going to provide education? Most public schools today wont allow kids to attend without proof of shots. So...unless you plan to homeschool or send you kid to a school that wont require shots, you people are putting my child at risk of catching of these so called "eradicated dieseses" that are supposedly making a slow comeback. So....anyone want to challege me?
Posted by dbtmellis

Sure. I will. This will be quick.

Never said dont get shots. DID say they need to take the mercury out of the shots. So...no home school crisis, no resurgence of measles and rubella.

[jj4272]

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