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First Family To Have Autism-Related Case "Conceded" Is Just One Of Thousands

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by teeus March 8, 2008 3:02 PM EST
My Response: So...is there mericury or is there not in shots? If the claim is that it hasent been used in a while, why is the rate of autisim unchanged?
Posted by dbtmellis

Mercury has only been "removed" from childhood vaccinations for about 18 months. This is voluntary compliance, and many drug companies are choosing to use up there old stores of tainted vaccinations before creating the mercury free shots. Also, they are still using it in other vaccinations, like the annual flu shots.

Plus you cant diagnose a case of autism until the child is approx 2-3 years old.

Do the math. That''s why you haven''t seen a significant drop in case yet.
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by dbtmellis March 8, 2008 2:14 PM EST
Just add to my last response, those who insult me (or anyone for that matter) are automatically intellectually inferior to me. If you want to prove that you are intellectually superior (intellectually aka being smarter, for those who have a limited vocabulary) to me, prove it in a civilized manner.
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by dbtmellis March 8, 2008 2:01 PM EST
Posted by drinuk at 07:47 AM : Mar 08, 2008

"dbtmellis, your day will come, what a piece C R A P you are, your retardation is duly ordered."

My Response: Get a life. I come to this chat board to have an intelectual debate, not to hurl insults at each other. Those that insult each other really should stay in grade school. They wont get much farther than that mentality. For the record, i may not be an expert( nor am i claiming to be one)as i do have a college education, and those who are eduacated tend to me more informed with facts about a wide range of topics instead of what the liberal media spews out and wants us to belive.
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by dbtmellis March 8, 2008 11:13 AM EST
All i can say is what is worse...Diesases or Austism. I guess parents out there do have a choice in the matter, since i belive in a free society and have a choice in everything we do.
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by dbtmellis March 8, 2008 11:10 AM EST
Posted by Gaye5 at 07:05 AM : Mar 08, 2008 Quote:"That means about 5.5 out of every 1,000 school-age children have been diagnosed with autism. "
My Repsonse: That is only a half percentage point. Barley a scratch on the surface on the millions of children that are out there.
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by drinuk March 8, 2008 10:47 AM EST
I see the Pro Big Pharma merchants are still "Hogging" this board, have you people no bloody conscience, or are you truly imbeciles.

For those genuine concerned folks posting on here I would suggest you ignore their totally biased comments and check the real facts on.....

www.theoneclickgroup.co.uk
www.cryingshame.com

dbtmellis, your day will come, what a piece C R A P you are, your retardation is duly ordered.
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by gaye5 March 8, 2008 10:10 AM EST
dbtmellis, try telling that to the thousands of mothers who had normal healthy children who were progressing normally, speaking well for their age until their second immunization..
I have seen a couple of these children..you obviously havent seen their heartache when their normal child starts screaming after their immunizations for hrs at a time and watch these once beautiful normal little children sink into nothingness...
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by gaye5 March 8, 2008 10:05 AM EST
dbtmellis".. the rate of Autism is on the increase, from the BBC NEWS on May 4th 2006..

New Study Gives Best Picture Yet Of How Many Children Suffer From Disorder.
(CBS/AP) About 300,000 U.S. children have been diagnosed with autism, according to the largest national study so far of the prevalence of this complex behavioral disorder.

That means about 5.5 out of every 1,000 school-age children have been diagnosed with autism.

All I can say is that in all the schools that my husband has taught or been Principal of here in Australia and NZ for the past 40 years, he never came across this problem until a few years ago and as Principal he would hear of any problem children at home if there were any..and If it was **genetic.** then out of the thousands of children that my husband has taught or been in contact with, this would have shown up in some families.
Mercury is a cumulative heavy metal poison and with sufficient exposure all mercury-based toxins damage the central nervous system and other organs or organ systems such as the liver or gastrointestinal tract.
TOM MANGOLD (BBC): This is a phial of mercury, a liquid metal and one of the most poisonous substances known to man.



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by gaye5 March 8, 2008 9:34 AM EST
prairiemom1, I totally agree with you, we are being sold a pup, a pup which makes trillions a month for the pharmaceutical companies who put the fear of death into vulnerable new or young mothers by telling them that some children die of these diseases, (and a few children with very low immune systems do died).
These diseases which were once considered to be mild child hood diseases are now called killer diseases, but when hundreds of children die every year from vaccinations, we dont hear pharmaceutical companies calling their vaccinations killer vaccines.. strange that eh..
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by dbtmellis March 8, 2008 3:48 AM EST
1000 degrees? wow, thats a really bad fever!!
...yeowch! some call the fire dept. Its hot in here!!
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by dbtmellis March 8, 2008 3:47 AM EST
Posted by newster1 at 10:10 PM : Mar 07, 2008 Quote: "Oh gee, I dunno, maybe its because the minute amount of mercury DERIVATIVE was never the cause in the first place!" My Response: Excactly my point. Would it be true to say that Austism is just another name or reclassfication of Mental Retardnation? It seems to me that a game of musical chairs might have gone around in the medical field in the past 25-30 years, as cases of mental retardation today is almost unheard of, as was Austism was unheard of years ago.
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by nothappyatall March 8, 2008 1:22 AM EST
You do realize that the theory is that there are certain children who have an abnormality that stops their bodies from being able to expele heavy metals like mercury, right? So

But for the other kids, the overload of mercury to their system causes damage."

OH WELL, then like I said before- WEAK, defective and bad genes, survival of the fittest I guess, its not the vaccines fault its the KID.


"If mercury is OK to put in shots, why did they ban it YEARS ago from shots for our pets? Hint: It was unhealthy and dangerous."

Hint: Pets are not humans, chocolate is FATAL to dogs but not people, cats need taurine found in meat in their diet to survive, dogs dont, a dog''s stomach can twist 180 degrees on its axis and kill the dog, a human''s cant- people and pets are not the same, we dont react the same to this stuff.
A teaspoon of antifreeze can kill a dog.

Just because you claim they have taken thimerisol out of pet vaccines doesnt mean thimerisol is dangerous for PEOPLE

The Autism Society of America says there is no known cause for autism, but that it most likely is **genetic.**


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by nothappyatall March 8, 2008 1:10 AM EST
If the claim is that it hasent been used in a while, why is the rate of autisim unchanged?
Posted by dbtmellis"

Oh gee, I dunno, maybe its because the minute amount of mercury DERIVATIVE was never the cause in the first place!

"he most common side effects include "cough, runny nose/nasal congestion, irritability, headaches, chills, muscle aches and fever 1000 F." These symptoms are nearly identical to those the flu vaccine is designed to prevent."

1000 degrees? wow, thats a really bad fever!!
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by nothappyatall March 8, 2008 1:09 AM EST
If the claim is that it hasent been used in a while, why is the rate of autisim unchanged?
Posted by dbtmellis"

Oh gee, I dunno, maybe its because the minute amount of mercury DERIVATIVE was never the cause in the first place!

"he most common side effects include "cough, runny nose/nasal congestion, irritability, headaches, chills, muscle aches and fever 1000 F." These symptoms are nearly identical to those the flu vaccine is designed to prevent."

1000 degrees? wow, thats a really bad fever!!
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by dbtmellis March 8, 2008 12:19 AM EST
Posted by prairiemom1 at 09:10 PM : Mar 07, 2008 Quote:"Yes but the vast majority of the population is not vaccinated for those desieases, so there is no protection against an epidemic. " My Response: My god what would we do if we had another epidemic on our hands...oh wait we already do...its call Obesity.
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by prairiemom1 March 8, 2008 12:10 AM EST
Posted by prairiemom1 at 08:37 PM : Mar 07, 2008 Quote:"...vaccinated for small pox in about 30 years." My Response: Join the Marines like i did and i got a smallpox vaccination. Along with Anthrax and a host of other stuff.

Yes but the vast majority of the population is not vaccinated for those desieases, so there is no protection against an epidemic.
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by dbtmellis March 7, 2008 11:44 PM EST
Posted by prairiemom1 at 08:37 PM : Mar 07, 2008 Quote:"...vaccinated for small pox in about 30 years." My Response: Join the Marines like i did and i got a smallpox vaccination. Along with Anthrax and a host of other stuff.
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by dbtmellis March 7, 2008 11:41 PM EST
Posted by prairiemom1 at 08:35 PM : Mar 07, 2008 Quote:"Not seen in 50 years?? Here in Kansas whooping cough ..." My Response: Like i said those "eradicated Diseases" are making a slow comeback. Not to mention that there are millions of Ilegals walking around who have never been stuck in the arm for anything...except maybe heroin.
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by dbtmellis March 7, 2008 11:38 PM EST
Posted by teeus at 05:17 PM : Mar 07, 2008 Quote: "Never said dont get shots. DID say they need to take the mercury out of the shots" My Response: So...is there mericury or is there not in shots? If the claim is that it hasent been used in a while, why is the rate of autisim unchanged?
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by prairiemom1 March 7, 2008 11:37 PM EST
It seems like everytime we turn around they come up with a new vaccine. Since when was chickenpox a epidemic problem? Rotovirus? My generation didn''t get that vac, my goodness, how did we ever survive? But wait, we didn''t get chicken pox vac either and we all survived that too. The Hep B vac? Since when have you seen a baby working in a healthcare situation where they might be stuck with an infected needle? When did you last hear of a baby having mutliple *** partners. Unless they are born to a Hep B positive mother, babies are not at risk for this disease, why vaccinate them for something they aren''t at risk for? Back when I was child, 3 DPTs were considered enough. Why now does it take 5?

I also hear alot of people talking about small pox. News flash, people haven''t been routinely vaccinated for small pox in about 30 years.

And for those worried about vaccinated children getting one of these diseases from and unvaccinated child, if that is possible then yhe vac is providing no protection anyway and you wasted your time and took a chance with you childs health for no reason.
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