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by briannorwood February 27, 2008 1:50 PM EST
You know, I get a kick out of older folks bemoaning how the younger kids have not sense of history.

They forget that the reason they know alot of history is that they lived through alot of it!

I''m sure this complaint is as old as dirt too!
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by Razzl February 27, 2008 1:47 PM EST
It is now and always has been bogus to expect teenagers in that age bracket to have a wealth of historical or literary cultural references on the tip of their tongues. The knowledge they have of computers and technology is deep and real, but the kinds of people who do the "cultural reference" tests probably don''t even have the basic knowledge to ask them the right questions about those fields. And if you ask them questions about current film stars or musicians, they would probably embarass you as an out-of-touch fogey who doesn''t know a fraction of what they do.

This old accusation about cultural illiteracy is a red-herring issue that''s been going on since the ''50''s when the first generation of pre-war parents who learned the old way, from rote, felt resentment toward a world that didn''t do that kind of education any more. Of course, references to educational history are something the surveyors themselves might not do so well with...
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by charlotte76-2009 February 27, 2008 1:19 PM EST
Your history may be great, Ralph, but your biology sucks. Last I checked, it''s not just women who engage in propogation. There has to be a man involved in there somewhere.
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by klingon69 February 27, 2008 12:56 PM EST
And so it is that we pay teachers a barely liveable wage... Ya want smart children? Pay teachers $120K/year and reduce the wages to Gov''''t contracted security firms.

Regards,
Posted by Nancy_Naive at 09:51 AM : Feb 27, 2008
That will do some good, however, until the curriculum changes and truth is put BACK in education, no hope of success.
Looking at public school textbooks today, they are nothing like those I used in the 60s-70s.
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by faerie2 February 27, 2008 12:54 PM EST
Also the welfare system pays women to propagate indiscriminately, so this result is inevitable.

Posted by runningralph at 08:59 AM : Feb 27, 2008

RR:
Have you even looked into the welfare system lately? Since Clinton enacted his welfare reform, things have changed. People are only allowed to be on TANF (temporary assistance for needy families) for a total of 60 months. While a person receives those benefits, in order to receive the full amount (which in Missouri is $290 a month for a single parent with 2 children) That adult MUST be meeting a requirement of work/volunteering or will face a reduction in benefits. Up until about a year, year 1/2 ago, if that adult was going to either college or trade school to aquire the skills needed to become self-sufficient, that appeased the requirement. But the republican govt changed the rules and said that these people who are trying to better their lives through education had to start working part time or volunteering. Going to school no longer counted. So I suppose if you want them to get off welfare, perhaps we could start helping them access the tools to do so!
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by gunownerdan February 27, 2008 12:19 PM EST
Unfortunately many Americans today would rather be entertained rather than informed.

"Today we need a nation of minute men; citizens who are not only prepared to take up arms, but citizens who regard the preservation of freedom as a basic purpose of their daily life and who are willing to consciously work and sacrifice for that freedom. The cause of liberty, the cause of American, cannot succeed with any lesser effort."
-- President John F. Kennedy, January 29, 1961
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by runningralph February 27, 2008 11:59 AM EST
About 20 or 25 years age I predicted that computers would do for the human brain what machines have done for the human body-make it flabby and weak. Also the welfare system pays women to propagate indiscriminately, so this result is inevitable.
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by irisheyes555 February 27, 2008 4:24 AM EST
Those Who Forget History Are Doomed to Repeat It

George Santayana: "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
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by toolmangler-2009 February 27, 2008 2:03 AM EST
Princess - please look up George Orwell''''s book "1984." I think you''''ll see no sexism was intended.
Posted by mikesowa1 at 09:21 PM : Feb 26, 2008


Princess - Read Goerge orwells "Animal Farm" then read his "1984" then read the congressional changes to our "Constitution" since GWB took office, then Read about NAFTA, CAFTA AND SOON ''AFTA''. then lookup "Posse comitatus" the reasons for it and what Bushy-baby has done to it. Lookup "Habeas Corpus" and the reasons for it and what GWB has done to it. Then you will have learned enough to ask some intelligent questions. I hope you do ask.
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by snowprincss February 27, 2008 1:51 AM EST
I watched this report on television, and I must say, Couric''s closing line (something along the lines of, "Don''t know who wrote that book? Just ask big brother.") sounded SEXIST to me. Yes, I know, it would have sounded stilted to say "big brother or big sister" but the way she put it made it sound like girls don''t read in school.
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