Comments on: States Rejecting "Abstinence-Only" Funding

Federal Government Has Spent Millions On Sex-Ed Approach, Now 15 States Not Interested

[skyk-2009]

These people that want us to return to the good old days...... what good old days? the days of the great generation. when they used hang and linch black people? the wonderful days of jesse james, billy the kid, and dodge city? or maybe the bootlegging days of al capone, what good did that do? maybe we should go back to salem witch trials days, those were great days!!


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Posted by andrew_693 at 07:50 AM : Jan 07, 2008
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You make very good points there. I have often asked these folks who want to "return" to a more moral time, when that would be. They never give an answer. As a Child our school was visited every friday by these "Christian''s", sometimes they''d bring along a couple of their hooded friends just to drive home the point.

[andrew_693]

The same people that want more church are the same ones that were ok when a 21 years old marine was raping a 13 years old child last week. Than they wonder why the pregnancy rate has always been so high in small craptowns.

[skyk-2009]

You so called Christians teach your kids what ever you want stay out of our schools if you do not like our chrildren being taight realistically. Do mored home schooling raising a bunch of bible thoumping a holes but stay out of our way.


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Posted by jerryomara at 07:21 AM : Jan 07, 2008
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Well said. NO Christian Conservative has EVER done anything that does NOT involve selling their religion. That''s what this is all about, getting them back into schools through the back door.

[andrew_693]

These people that want us to return to the good old days...... what good old days? the days of the great generation. when they used hang and linch black people? the wonderful days of jesse james, billy the kid, and dodge city? or maybe the bootlegging days of al capone, what good did that do? maybe we should go back to salem witch trials days, those were great days!!

[trillion1]

Just as stupid as Reagans '' Just say no.''.

[andrew_693]

When I lived in your europe as a teen we used to spend the afternoon playing soccer or doing other sports, hours a day, and it was free, we didn''t have to join health club or be millionaires to enjoy life like it is here. Kids, specially in small american town don''t have anything to do with their lives, they can''t go anywhere because if they don''t have a car, they are nobodies, so they turn to ***, drugs and anything to avoid this life. Cuhrch is the cause of the problem, not the solution.

[lambofgoth]

mgum1215: Why aren''t those "Christian" values in our constitution? Please tell us...

[b-easy63]

It''''s time to stop wasting tax dollars on all these useless, time and dollar wasting programs. Kids aren''''t in school to hear propaganda, they are their to learn their ABC''''s, science and math.
Anything else should be eliminated.
Posted by tuckerndfw at 07:00 AM : Jan 07, 2008

Aren''t you the person who posted that sexxxx between 13 and 14 yr olds and adults should not be prosecuted by the police and society ought to stay out of it? Hardly a voice of reason, morality or sanity when it comes to what is right for children.....

Preaching abstinence alone is ridiculous and no doubt is just a way to shovel funds and favors to Bush cronies, but abstinence should be taught as a viable and possible alternative to having sexxxx at an early age. If taught in the home it can work--but hand in hand with abstinence must come a profound personal respect for one''s body and a grounding in morality.

Taken together, they are a potent innoculate to early sexual activity.

[formrusmcsgt]

"All those influences have driven Congress and the Bush administration to push "abstinence-only" education."

This appears to me to be blatant editorializing here on the part of CBS.

First, CBS fails to mention that it was the Repub-controlled Congress that jumped in this canoe with dubya, not the present Congress.

And secondly, the driver for this program is dogma, not social influences.

There are many pragmatic approaches to employ to try to counteract the "influences" as they put it. Abstinance only is a dogma-based approach and should be labeled as such.

I am glad to see that so many states are rejecting this dogma-based program in favor of common sense multi-faceted approaches.

[jeff-fla]

It is about time. This "lets wait" is really stupid. I took the time to talk to my kids, who were of high school age when all of this started. They still came back to me with so really crazy ideas that there friends had told them. They were just kids. As with many of these kids mis-information is the only information. And to really think that if you tell a "teenager" to not do something and they listen, you are really out to lunch. By nature they explore life. So lets grow up and let them grow up armed with INFORMATION.

[watcher269-2009]

Ignorence seems to be the policy of the Religious Right and this Administration - But just think - if this policy wasn''t in place Years ago and contraception was - Bushit wouldn''t be here and our president right now - nor would Cheney.

[mcvet]

Lets take our families back and get our country back to what America was based off of.. Strong christian values..Look at the averages in those times and what values our country has gotten away from.

mgum1215


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Posted by mgum1215 at 06:23 AM : Jan 07, 2008
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Hey Swastika Breath! What are you babbling about? What point in time would you like us to return too? Give us a date certain when the *** Education proposed by the Religious Reich ACTUALLY Worked. I have a very good memory folks and I''m not aware of ANY time in our past that we were a MORE moral country. If any of you Religious Fundies have a date certain to discuss, lets hear it. Sieg Heil and Amen

[mgum1215]

Lets see...maybe just maybe we have lost touch with what our children are seeing in this "MTV" world or what they are actually seeing and hearing at our schools. If we dont start young structuring a strong family tie with morals we loose our children at an early age to the dirrection that society is taking. Lets see.. rise in teenage pregnancy and rise in anti-depressants when stepping into a teenage body. The *** education should be used in communication with the families with whats going on. When was the last time a child brought home a brochure and ask the parents to approve it before a child would ever see anything. *** education..same *** education..

Schools...call your families and find out whats working at school and not and make some frickn changes based off of that...Not some administration that has proven to be un-effective.

Lets take our families back and get our country back to what America was based off of.. Strong christian values..Look at the averages in those times and what values our country has gotten away from.

mgum1215

[jjp735i]

Abstinence is like giving kids a loaded gun and not telling them all the facts. Tell them everything we know about *** and how to prevent pregnancies and STD before it''s too late. As it is now, they are just pulling the trigger with no idea to the damage it will cause to their lives.

[jennmarie620]

If Abstinence Only education were the key to keeping our teenagers safe from unwanted pregnancy and sexually transmitted diseases, then the teen pregnancy rate would have been steadily dropping over the past decade - not rising. Yes, the primary message should be to wait until they''re adults can make mature decisions - and be prepared to raise a child - but that message should be supplemented by education on every available option out there to prevent pregnancy. Teenagers have been having s e x for hundreds of years, even though it''s socially and morally taboo. What makes people think it''s going to stop now? Now it''s just not hidden like it used to be. In the fifties, girls were sent to live with "aunts" for nine months - now they''re raising their children with the help of their parents. It''s time to get our heads out of the sand as a society and start realizing that we need to be mature about this and teach our teenagers how to make responsible decisions.

If that means buying condoms or getting on birth control, then that''s what it means!

[closethippy1]

Obama is ahead in the polls and now this. I''m beginning to see the light at the end of the tunnel!
Ever since Reagan won in 1980 I''ve been counting the seconds when the American people would wake up from this dream, this nightmare rather, where "Just Say No" is the only thing the government is willing to offer to help solve our problems.
Even Clinton couldn''t pull anything better than "Don''t Ask, Don''t Tell". Here we are in the middle of a war and we can''t get rid of soldiers any faster just because they''re gay.
Over 10,000 Americans service men and women have suffered because of this bizarre policy.
But, finally, Americans are beginning to relax. To take a step back and actually think about what they''re doing, and what the Puritans want them to do, instead of getting all emotional about issues.
I''ve been predicting for the longest time that the MTV generation will eventually get a hold of this country and help it balance it so we don''t end up being the Saudi Arabia of the industrialized world.
Or more like Iran, really.
By the way, has anyone seen JUNO? It''s about teenage pregnancy. I haven''t felt this good about a movie in a long time. Great flick, check it out ya''ll!

[grammawhamma]

brianbwb: I couldn''t have said it any better than you did. As far as the old saying "Ignorance is bliss"...not when it comes to an unwanted pregnancy or STD due to lack of s-e-x education.

[undermyboot]

These abstinence-only freaks push their extremist agenda on America and cry about it when States tell them to take a f''ing leap. But these are the same "states rights" hypocrites who want to eviscerate the Federal government in every other way- unless they can use the Feds to force their religion down our throats.

If they would support the effective teaching of abstinence PREFERENCE with contraception information then most Americans would support it. However, their real agenda is to force their puritan religious ideology on America. Americans have had enough of these freaks as we now see. Of course they will continue to try to force the rest of us to submit to their radical intolerant Christian Taliban rules to the detriment of America. f''em.

[brianbwb-2009]

"I think they''re the victims of a huge lobbying effort on behalf of the contraception education proponents, who truly do not want abstinence education to exist," says Elayne Bennett, of the Best Friends Foundation."

This lady is a fool, reality check time, it is a part of life, not only one of life''s most powerful instincts, but exploited without letup by commercial interests, it becomes a commodity that can be traded for advancement, paying better than Mcjobs, and it doesn''t require a Masters'' degree.

Anyone who thinks that everyone can simply abstain is delusional, trying to create a state of social structure that not only has never existed, but would be impossible to force into existence.

To deny knowledge that actually can help prevent unwanted pregnancy, STDs, and other adverse consequences of s*xual activity, and advocate impossible scenarios such as abstinance as the only way to prevent such is the mark of extreme delusion.

Maybe Ms. Bennett never got any, so in her twisted version of life no one else should be able to...