Comments on: Inside Iraq's Only Women's Prison

Women And Their Children Held In Jail Because Their Husbands Are Accused Of Terrorism

[jeff-fla]

And people wonder why we can''t seem to win there hearts and minds. After all. We are bringing the American way of life to them. Who could live without fast food, no due process, and lets not leave out Christ. We even have a basic training camp for our troops. Gods basic training camp. Convert or kill.

http://www.military.com/NewsContent/0,13319,158531,00.html?ESRC=navy-a.nl

[linfinster]

If prisoner abuse is allowed to be reported but not stopped then the reports can be used as terror tools against others.
Posted by CBS_Oliver at 07:45 PM : Dec 22, 2007

I wonder if publishing the report about the Saudi woman who was sentenced to be whipped and fined for her lawyer''s comments wasn''t just a political test of the publics opinion. Just a set up to see if we will allow more of our money to be stolen to fight this sad war. But you make a very good point.

[freebirdin]

Wow! Here''s a new concept.

Prisoners insisting that they are innocent and abused. Perhaps Ramsey Clark can take up their cases.

If you listen to the propaganda machine its as if human rights by the Iraqi government is worse now than it was under Saddam Hussein.

These dayz unsubstantiated claims of torture are zealously welcomed by "human rights" activists eager to destroy Iraq''s young democracy.

[ontheleft]

Move along right wingers. Nothing to see here. The Iraq war was a complete success and we have installed a wonderful government there. They''ll all live happily ever after thanks to us.

[wardoglrs]

The US Goverment did this. Cant you see. This is what we did to them by interferring in there affairs. That''s why they hate us/ That''s why they want to kill us. What the hell would you do if we were invaded by another country. would you lay there like a slain PIG. Or would you fight. We are feared in the world and one day it''s going to be PAYBACK TIME.

[ecm1980]

This is very said, very heartbreaking. The worst thing is that there is really nothing that can be done about it. Every country has their own way of doing things...whether we agree with it or not really doesn''t matter in the long run. I hope these women find some kind of justice...and I hope that in the mean time they can lean on eachother for support.

[cbs_oliver]

Sorry to keep beating the drum here, but there is one other factor I would like to bring forward that relates to this story and to other stories that report prisoner abuse.

If prisoner abuse is allowed to be reported but not stopped then the reports can be used as terror tools against others.

Most torture is useless if done in the dark. There are better ways to get information. Publicised, torture is an effective weapon of terror which can be used to induce ccompliance or cooperation in others.

[Krazcarl]

Can''t they treat thier women better than dogs. it seams to be a spiritual axiom women are slaves to get the men to submit, read the bible it was a key recruitment tactic then too.

[arthall33]

Their only hope as OURS...is that Ron Paul is elected the next president of the U.S....................

[wardoglrs]

And then there%u2019s the so-called Patriot Act. As originally proposed,
%u2022 Expanded the federal government''s ability to use wiretaps without judicial oversight;
%u2022 Allowed nationwide search warrants non-specific to any given location, nor subject to
any local judicial oversight;
%u2022 Made it far easier for the government to monitor private internet usage;
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I have fought this fight for many years. I sponsored a bill to overturn the Patriot Act and have won some
victories, but today the threat to your liberty and privacy is very real. We need leadership at the top that
will prevent Washington from centralizing power and private data about our lives.

[wardoglrs]

Privacy and Personal Liberty
The biggest threat to your privacy is the government. We must drastically limit the ability of government to
collect and store data regarding citizens%u2019 personal matters.
We must stop the move toward a national ID card system. All states are preparing to issue new driver%u2019s
licenses embedded with %u201Cstandard identifier%u201D data %u2014 a national ID. A national ID with new tracking
technologies means we%u2019re heading into an Orwellian world of no privacy. I voted against the Real ID Act in
March of 2005.
To date, the privacy focus has been on identity theft. It was Congress that created this danger by mandating
use of the standard identifier (currently your SSN) in the private sector. For example, banks use SSNs as
customer account identifiers because the government requires it.
We must also protect medical privacy. Right now, you%u2019re vulnerable. Under so-called %u201Cmedical privacy
protection%u201D rules, insurance companies and other entities have access to your personal medical information.
Financial privacy? Right now depositing $10,000 in your local bank will generate a %u201Csuspicious activity
report%u201D to the federal government.

[cbs_oliver]

It is a terrorist practice whoever does it.

[cbs_oliver]

I wrote to Scheiffer about the issue of women and children being held hostage by Iraqi insurgents and US and Iraqi forces also when Jill Carol was captured. His only foicus was on Jill, who is now free and going to graduate school at Harvard. You may remember that the captives of Jill Carol listed one of their complaints/demands as the release of women and children held by US/Iraqi forces. Some of the Iraqi and probably Afgan and other women and children held by US forces at that time are probably still held or may dead by now.

Just another case of the depravity of our current leadership and the indifference of our fifth estate.

So, I am very pleased to see a story about the issue.

High praise for bringing forward an important issue.

It is flat out wrong to hold women and children and others (like some young men in Gitmo and elsewhere) hostage and threatoned with abuse in order to force cooperation or compliance from others.

[toolmangler-2009]

This story will be quickly buried because it makes people (Leaders) uncomfortable.