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Jose Rodriguez Ordered Tapes Of Terror Interrogations Destroyed Without Telling CIA Director

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by brianbwb-2009 December 11, 2007 2:21 AM EST
Posted by endofempire

You were doing OK until you trotted out the lie of "protecting our fortress".

America''s foreign policies to date have had little and nothing to do with our protection. Our military has been used as a mercenary force for the agendas of greedy corporations, whose very existence is actually of very little or no consequence to America''s security.

Killing the inhabitants of some banana producing country in central America has nothing to do with US security, Grenada, Nicaragua, Panama, Bolivia, Cuba, Columbia, and, for that matter, Iraq, Iran, Libya, Israel, Lebanon, Syria eastern Europe, Africa, none of these countries is any threat whatsoever to US security, unless you consider only the pockets of greedy and corrupt US businesses there as being the US.
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by fairandbal December 11, 2007 2:20 AM EST
This is truly the fall guy in this situation. Bush himself ordered the destruction of the tapes so that his administration would not be brought before anymore courts. Bush needs to be impeached now!!!!
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by sharncedar December 11, 2007 1:55 AM EST
"As much as I dislike this administration''''s treatment of American affairs. Can anyone explain how to get a terroist to give up information without some form of torture?? Seriously."

a seriously stupid question, but I''ll try to answer. The way to gather intelligence on groups is two means, and only two means: to infiltrate the group with an agent, or to turn one of the members as a double agent. These are the only actual ways to gather intelligence. Torture gives you noise, nonsense, spurious names and confessions that are worthless or even misleading. The only use of torture is for an entirely different purpose, which is to create the appearance of a crime where none was committed. This is why "witch trials" used torture, and the Catholic Inquisition used torture, and the Soviet secret police used torture. not to gather intelligence (there really aren''t any witches, and Galileo was right not wrong, and the US was actually a nicer place than USSR) but to create false intelligence, to create the appearance of a crime or crisis where none exists.

simple enough? You ask for a serious explanation, but I''m sure you don''t listen, just go back to Rush Limberger''s lies.
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by endofempire December 11, 2007 1:54 AM EST
The nation has never changed... It is the same as it once was, with America throwing its weight around. In the 1800 and early 1900s in Nicaragua and Panama and yes, many unanswered murders did take place... Do a little research. Read about our involvement in the Dominican Republic and how we "changed the course of history" there. How about Puerto Rico in the 50''s. Guys, get real, we are the same thugs as always... The only difference was that back then, American was not full of milquetoast sissies who could not stomach doing what it takes to keep our fortress protected. If you hate what we are doing, trust me, you dont'' want to see our streets will look like if your efforts to de-stabilize our country are successful. Your kids will pay for your lack of gonads.
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by sharncedar December 11, 2007 1:50 AM EST
Another of Bush''s Mexican mafia. He brought in all these illegals and their demon spaewn children, of course they don''t understand freedom or American values. Bush is a great president - of Mexico. Just as Clinton was a great president - of China and India. i hope someday we can have our own president. Not El Presidente the man raised by a Mexican "mother" or madre or monster or whatever they call their demon-like womenfolk.
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by cburn665 December 11, 2007 1:37 AM EST
The saddest thing of all is how easily manipulated a people we have become. Between the every day grind of work, people barely have the time to be families, let alone pay attention to detail in politics. ...Posted by scorp79

Scorp79, you couldn''t have said it any better. Everybody thinks that it is joke---evry'' American should be outraged how the shysters in Washington have sold this country out.

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by jowand December 11, 2007 1:34 AM EST
Bull... Don''''t buy it. It just doesn''''t fly. Yesteday Harriet Myers was said to have known about the PLANS to destroy the tapes. Now they have a fall guy? Media, Hello! Do you job!

DEMS in Congress: DO Not Drop This Investigation.
Posted by VET_SK at 10:04 PM : Dec 10, 2007

They did for once check the link
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/12/08/AR2007120801664.html?hpid=topnews
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by walt1944-2009 December 11, 2007 1:34 AM EST
The Great Emperor Bush II emphatically denies the rumors swimming around Washington that Jose Rodriguez, the man who ordered the destruction of the CIA tapes, is really the former AG, Alberto (the Great Gonzo) Gonzales in disguise and under an alias!

Although it is a very well known fact that people from south of the Rio Grande use some 50 odd combinations of names to "identify" themselves (which drive police and pharmacists up the wall), the Great Emperor states positively that Rodriguez and Gonzalez are not the same person (although they could possibly be related someway)!

He further asserts that it has yet to be proven that "Rodriguez" actually did destroy the tapes and that they may have been "accidentally" destroyed in the same way that the infamous 18 minute gap was "accidentally" erased in Nixon''s tapes during the Watergate crises!

Besides, the Emperor still firmly believes that the tapes the CIA used had been on loan from the Impossible Mission Force and meant to self-destruct on their own after a certain time limit or when curious Whimp-ocrats began getting too nosey!

SIG HEIL, BUSH!!!
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by rushlimpdrug December 11, 2007 1:31 AM EST
Posted by ilikecats1 at 08:50 PM

For the record, since you like cats, is it true they taste like chicken?
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by cburn665 December 11, 2007 1:31 AM EST
As much as I dislike this administration''s treatment of American affairs. Can anyone explain how to get a terroist to give up information without some form of torture?? Seriously.

I understand what the CIA did was violate OUR rules setforth in the Geneva Convention and how it looks to other countries and that WE the U.S. is suppose to be the moral leader and all.

...This administration is the blame for all this mess that we are going through. God how do they sleep at night?
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by rushlimpdrug December 11, 2007 1:28 AM EST

What!?
An illegal allien ordering the tapes to be destroyed?

Where is bush getting all these landscapers?

First the monkey gonzo, now roger rabbit.

Send them back if they can''t act civil.
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by jowand December 11, 2007 1:20 AM EST
The guys a hero, Nobel Peace prize next year?
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by nirak2-2009 December 11, 2007 1:15 AM EST
very true neobrian
The whole Administration should be tarred and feathered and send to the Hague
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by neobrian-2009 December 11, 2007 1:13 AM EST
Rowdy Tex is Right!
A New Scapegoat for King W is born ! These 28%ers that uphold Resident Idiot Shrub should have to do time with him in prison. W and his '' Brain-washed Tribe " have corrupted,lied to, and totally embarrassed our country. They have stolen our tax money,shredded the constitution and murdered many innocent people. Someone should be held accountable.Everybody makes jokes here,including me,but this administration literally makes me sick.
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by nirak2-2009 December 11, 2007 1:07 AM EST
Ordering those tapes destroyed should get him a nice Promotion huh?
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by vet_sk December 11, 2007 1:04 AM EST
Bull... Don''t buy it. It just doesn''t fly. Yesteday Harriet Myers was said to have known about the PLANS to destroy the tapes. Now they have a fall guy? Media, Hello! Do you job!

DEMS in Congress: DO Not Drop This Investigation.
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by p-syrus December 11, 2007 1:03 AM EST
What is most intriguing is what CBS news has not reported on: Rodriguez personal connection to Kopher Black, Adviser to the Romney Campaign, Vice Chairman of Blackwater International and Rodriguez'' former boss & mentor at the CIA.

Black was evidently responsible for anti-terrorist operations, including interrogations at the CIA at the time that the tapes were made.

Just how far is the nation dependent on blackwater on what is the CIA''s role in promoting these "black ops".
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by docadams3 December 11, 2007 12:35 AM EST
Sounds like he needs to be deported.
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by tylenol6 December 11, 2007 12:32 AM EST
Looks like he will be the fall guy for Bushite and
the administration. I am quite sure Bush and Cheney
had nothing to do with it. Yeah right!!!!!!
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by downtowner97 December 11, 2007 12:24 AM EST
The party you like is in power, so you think the CIA and FBI should be able to do whatever they see fit without oversight or consequences. If Hillary gets elected, you''ll scream like a mashed cat if you think the CIA has done anything unconstitutional. How about if we just make sure there''s oversight whoever is in power so it''s a level playing field. The Constitution is a wonderful document that''s not liberal or conservative, it''s just the basis for our country.

Nazi Germany was horrible powerful and evil and killed far more Americans than Muslim Extremists. We beat them without sacrificing our morals or our values or violating our constitution.
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