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by jbaker314 November 28, 2007 12:55 AM EST
guysdigdirt,

I agree. Was it not Rosie O''Donnell I saw recently who objects to people having guns, but has her own armed guards?

There are many words that can be used in such cases, but I think that "hippocrit" should suffice.
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by guysdigdirt November 27, 2007 6:06 PM EST
jbaker,
If you look at my original post, I said people will use any form af death they can when they decide on suicide. In Japan it is often the trains used, because it is easy to do so. In other countries it is a long car ride that never leaves the garage.

If a gun is available, it is sometimes used for suicide, if it is on, other means will be found.

It all goes back to the same thing, it is not the gun that kills, it is the person using the gun. If guns are not available then some other weapon will be used.

If you make guns illegal for the regual person, you leave them without protection from those who will use illegal guns or other weapons to criminalize the regular people.

I would bet that those in the govt. and entertainment industry, who are pushing for gun control have have their own plan to have their body guards armed. That seems fair doesn''t it, they can be protected but we cannot.
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by jbaker314 November 27, 2007 5:21 AM EST
guysdigdirt,

I can''t provide worldwide numbers at this time.

I was simply providing statistics for the United States.
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by guysdigdirt November 27, 2007 4:34 AM EST
jbaker, I too can find stars to back my point, but I will ask you to. Give me the same stats from a legit source, for world wide suicides.

Thgdriver, as she should sir.
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by jbaker314 November 27, 2007 2:13 AM EST
guysdigdirt,

For the year 2004, there were 29,569 firearm-related deaths. Of these, 16,750 were suicides.

There were an additional 15,689 suicides that did not involve the use of firearms.

The statistics, provided at (http://webapp.cdc.gov/sasweb/ncipc/mortrate10_sy.html) show that firearms are the preferred method of suicide in this country, and that nearly 57% of all firearm-related deaths are suicides.
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by guysdigdirt November 26, 2007 8:59 PM EST
The govenments of countries like Syria, China and Venezuala are working with the likes of George Sorros through the United Nations to take your guns. Many Americans who are uneducated to the truth will think that is a good thing. It is not.

If the United Nations gets to start telling US Citizens what part of the Constitution we cannot keep then we are not the US of A anymore.

Look into it, get educated. Stand up for your rights.
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by guysdigdirt November 26, 2007 8:57 PM EST
I do not support the NRA in any shape or form but I do support the right to carry arms for self protection paticularly in todays sick world.

Any who would come my way are subject to retribution and death should they attempt to harm me or my family

Posted by hissteps4u

If you want to continue to keep your weapons legally, maybe you should find an organization to help you, like the NRA. If you think them bad, find another, but get educated and then stand tall in defence of your right to own a gun.
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by guysdigdirt November 26, 2007 8:52 PM EST
1) You say "Most deaths are due to criminals who are legally prohibited from possessing firearms. How exactly are the NRA and legit gun owners such as you trying to affect this? 2) I agree that a large number of gun deaths are suicides. I feel that I would be more likely to choose a gun compared to using other methods such as sharp instruments or poisons.
Posted by USBrit

Let me see if I can put in my humble opinion on these questions.
1-
Why is it the responsibility of the legal gun owners, or the NRA''s, in to enforce the law? Is it the responsibility of the legal users of prescription drugs to stop the illegal use of drugs? Or the responsibility of the doctors?

But to answer your questions. The NRA, among many others things, trains thousands of police officers to better be able to use their weapons, so they might better survive an encounter with an armed criminal.

We legal gun owners, find ourselves protecting ourselves, and in some cases other, from those who would use a gun illegally, to defend our rights and sometimes lives.

Let me ask you this question...
If you were a criminal, armed or not, would you rather attack someone who is armed or not armed? If you have a brain you will agree on that merit alone, the mere existence of lawful gun owners possibly, and likely probably, deters some criminal activity aided by an illegal gun.

2-
Statistically, a very small percentage of the people in the world that commit suicide use a gun.
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by guysdigdirt November 26, 2007 8:02 PM EST
---"When our government or whoever, can prove to me, all the bad guys have been disarmed I will be the first to either destroy my own or donate them to a museum.
Posted by thgdriver

Well put.

However, if your wife is home alone, and at 1 a.m. she hears a noise and upon investigating sees tyhe shadows of two large men entering your 8 year old daughter''s room. Now what does she do, you turned in your guns.

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by guysdigdirt November 26, 2007 7:58 PM EST
Do you think a foolish law like "one gun a month purchase" would make a difference? That law is being touted by the Mayor of Phila. and the governor of Pennsylvania. Duh!!! Criminals can''''t buy guns and when they try they are not prosecuted.

Posted by thgdriver

So what do you propose?
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