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- let''''s use OUR short moment in the sun to make sound decisions based on common sense and the most good for the most people.
Posted by bombadil4
Who gets to decide what makes common sense and is good for most people? You? Me? - Reply to this comment
- I think the NRA can do a lot of good (can''''t believe I''''m saying that) if they get off the "Can''''t stop anyone getting a gun wagon" and more onto the "Some people shouldn''''t have a gun" wagon which is at least the vastly under-publicized portion of their constituency, but I won''''t hold my breath.
Posted by USBrit
If you look into what the NRA really does you might be suprised. - Reply to this comment
- The criminals know the cops have guns and still don''''t give a rats aiss. What chance does an honest citizen have these days? - posted be thgdriver
I''ll have one more comment. On the bright side. Statistics show as I have said you are 200 times more likely to be killed with a gun in the US than the UK. (~ 150 times discounting suicides). Statistics also show that even with 300,000,000 guns in the US your cahnces of being shot with one is still only 400 : 1. ie for every 400 people you know 399 will not get shot. Sounds a bit better that way round doesn''t it? - Reply to this comment
- I see DUI check points set up all over my state. Why not do the same thing for illegal guns? - posted by thgdriver -
I think reasonable cause search and seizure laws might have somthing to do with that. Now if the cop has reason to believe the stoppee is a terrorist, we know that law goes out the window!! - Reply to this comment
- thgdriver - sorry to hear about your officers. Things here in Cinci are better but there''s still the who shot who wars on the news every night. My wife grew up in Philly; I lived in L.A. for 25 years (talk about who shot who!!). I was once brave (or dumb) enough to espouse my gun control beliefs in Georgia (not a good plan). Basically I have changed my mind about gun ownership. I still feel that it is a shame but I''ve come to the conclusion that it can be prudent under today''s conditions. I think the NRA can do a lot of good (can''t believe I''m saying that) if they get off the "Can''t stop anyone getting a gun wagon" and more onto the "Some people shouldn''t have a gun" wagon which is at least the vastly under-publicized portion of their constituency, but I won''t hold my breath.
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- Many of the NRA "ideas" are half baked at best. The criminal justice system can keep only a small proportion of criminals "off the street." Some of our more dangerous cities are barely able to solve half of the murders on their streets, for example. This is the "real" world with a population far greater than two hundred years ago, with drugs, mental illness, and random violence that would no doubt cause some of our founding fathers to dump in their pants. In fact Thomas Jefferson actually expressed concern over whether the Constitution might eventually become so out of touch with future generational needs, that he thought there possibly should be easier ways to enact changes as time passed. Thoreau wrote how puzzling it seemed that the living are so meekly willing to be ruled by the dead. Instead--considering no one (and certainly not our blithering Supreme Court clowns) knows what all that incomprehensible blather in the Second Amendment means anyway--let''s use OUR short moment in the sun to make sound decisions based on common sense and the most good for the most people.
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- jbaker - I certainly differentiate between violent drug dealers and the "casual" user. I still get the impression from "tough on crime" proponents that, in general they mean "tough on drugs" but not on guns. If I am totally wrong then maybe I''m being led by the "liberal" media. For the most part, however, I get news from www.bbc.co.uk which seems to keep up some semblance of balance. I have to say that I find a civilized conversation on these subjects without all the name calling usually found on these pages quite enlightening. Thanks.
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- USBrit,
Despite the portrayals in the liberal media, most conservatives would prefer violent offenders to be jailed as opposed to drug users.
However, let me also say that I don''t distinguish between violent drug users and other violent offenders. - Reply to this comment
- USBrit,
Actually, I use my firearms for target shooting.
This is not to say that I am not both willing and capable of using them for self defense.
I just have not yet been placed into that position. - Reply to this comment
- jbaker - I think we need a little more explanation than "liberals .... refuse to enforce them." What are the sentencing terms? Jails, I think we would all agree, are overcrowded at best. Do we let out all the junior level drug users that conservative administrations have insisted that judges put away for 20 years in favor of thousands of gun law breakers? Hmmm. Sounds fine to me but let''s see how quickly that gets your friendly neighbourhood conservative lawmaker re-elected.
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