Comments on: Millions In Subsidies For Profitable Corn?

Taxpayers Spend $2 Billion On Automatic Payments To Farmers, Whether They're Needed Or Not

[whatithink-2009]

"I also like to refer to this as Socialism for anti-Socialist.
Posted by curse914"

- LOVES IT!

[whatithink-2009]

This is another example of Republicans speaking out of forked tongues. Kansas and Iowa pretend to be some of the most LIBERTARIAN and FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE States in the Union. They tell the rest of us to "pull ourselves up by our own bootstraps"; tell others to accept a free market; tell others that no handouts or bailouts should be allowed; whine about any child or woman who gets social benefits; crying for someone to cut their taxes :

at the same time they GET SUBSIDIES OUT THE WAZOO

that are NOT NEEDED!

Classic example of "do as I say, not as I do!"

[prinzowhales]

curse914--Have you any stats that take into account the "tax expenditures" that states--New York, for instance, receives in lieu of direct US expenditures to a state like--Mississippi? "Tax expenditures" have been ruled by the Courts to be treated just like other federal expenditures...The big difference is that these expenditures go to the private sector in New York, Connecticutt, etc....I read years ago that when these were included they far exceeded those going to ''taker States''.

[prinzowhales]

curse914--Absolutely...OTM..other people''s money...is how the Bushs operate....the S&L rip-off left the taxpayer paying while the crooks pocketed the loot and moved on to greener pastures.

Part II--Aside from feeding the tariff issue in America, where the South and West had food and the North had nothing but complaints about British imports fueling a demand for a tariff, this British Imperial strategy had a profoundly negative affect on British agriculture and village economy....just as it has had on small town America...and just as the centralization of production in America--combined with tax expenditures for transportation, mass marketing and all of the mechanisms of international business command and control--has destroyed many small and medium-sized companies--buying them and shutting them down, or otherwise, through government regulation, forcing them to close or sell out.

The subsidies will help keep production up--the exports will put increased pressure on grain producers elsewhere...but, there are costs involved in this that aren''t in the accounts...the nutritional value of the food has declined tremendously thanks to the farming methods used to increase production... trace minerals that make for health are used up... blown away in the dust of what was once robust, virgin top soil...washed away...this is not reckoned up in the Capitalist Accounting system...its like running a steam boiler beyond its recommended pressure levels and not servicing it...

[glossypan]

The gaping hole in democracy in the United States. The US Senate. When Kansas and Iowa have as many Senators as California and New York, the concept of democracy is nullified. The 26 least populous states have only 11 percent of our total population. Ours is not a representative democracy.

[stevejk4]

just so you all know. Cannabis oil works alot better for ethenol then corn. it''s easier to grow, and can be grown just about anywhere in the US.

[prinzowhales]

In Soviet economics it was noted that ag prices tended to divurge from industrial prices...it took more and more ''taters to buy goods, so to speak... this was know as "scissoring"...referring to the way that the blades of the scissors move away from each other when they open.

This is what happened in America--and the rest of the industrialized world where surpluses became the rule.
Farm subsidies were designed to correct this...a sort of Pareto-like solution because it allowed the Capitalist ''cheap food'' strategy to go forward...less pricey food, they figured, would help keep wage demands down...

The Corn Law repeal was a move to accomplish the same thing--cheap food to keep wages down...the power of the British Empire rested on its industrial might... let the Irish and the Americans grow the food and we''ll sell them the manufactured goods, they reasoned.
End part I.

[itgranny]

Any one that visits these comments section on CBSNEWS has probably seen the jerk''s comments on Ron Paul. I feel this is exploiting a loophole and Ron Paul (or the people representing him) must think it''s ok to take advantage of the system. I think it''s dishonest and reflects poorly on Ron Paul; not only on his campaign but his integrity.

[jerr11]

Coorection:

At least no American lives are lost with these subsidies.

[jerr11]

At least no American lives are not lost with these subsidies.

Unlike the trillion dollar subsidy we''re giving Halliburton in Iraq.

1.9 trillion down the ******** and 4000 American dead soldiers.

That''s what I call making a killing from a war.