Comments on: Boy Scouts Lawsuit Opens Secret Files

Released To Attorney Representing Brothers In Sex Abuse Suit Against Scouts & Former Troop Leader

[gkc99]

And a lot of people bashing the BSA now are the folks who would be screaming the loudest about BSA policy keeping gay men from sharing tents on camping trips with 15 year old boys! Nothing but a bunch of lying hypocrits!

The BSA''s policy of excluding homosexuals as leaders has caused every PC city council in American to ban their meetings from public property, end donations from United Way, etc. etc. But a few of the perverts do slip through. They even slip through into being U.S. Senators. So is the Senate going to be investigated?

This shows how important the BSA policy about allowing pervs to be Scout leaders really is. Can''t have it both ways, ultra-libs!

[ov442]

lkybky1 - "without fully investigating and getting the facts straight "????
CBS did way more investigation than you ever have, and the BSA has already shown they will lie to cover up the truth.

CBS DID NOT state they Assume that the scouts is run by a bunch of pedophiles. You are 100% Wrong. Cannot discern Facts & quotes from Interviews VS editor opinion.

Find something in that article that shows a CBS employee stating an opinion about the scouts!!
They also state rebuttle quotes from the BSA -thats as fair and balanced as it gets.
From their abuse, and lawsuit, these people uncovered an ugly truth about the Scouts.
You have the right in America to read it and make assumptions all you want.
BUT blaming parents for dropping kids off at Scout meetings is ludicrous. If you think millions of parents can just follow thier kids around wherever they go all their childhood, you are insane - period.
You make no logical or legitimate points. BSA tells people to trust them just like a licensed daycare facility tells you to trust them, just like your priest or pastor tells you to trust them, just like your politicians tell you to trust them. Yes the BSA is responsible just like the Catholic church is. They lied to the public, they Hid their crimes, they failed to act for 95 yrs to do anything to prevent abuse, they knew it was happening as an epidemic, and they pressured people to not talk about it.

[mediabrat60]

"Very safe organization. 2 adults must be with a child at all times."

The Catholic church was safe too!
This 2 adults for every child thing is B*llCr*p, ask any scout any where!

[lkybky1]

I am amazed at how slanted CBS news has become. I was an avid viewer for years until the Dan Rather scandal. How could CBS news have sunken so low that they now have become an outlet for tabloid journalism? It used to be, "If it bleeds, it leads", now, unfortunately, the rally cry has become "Find a victim, blame the system". I was appalled at Sandra Hughes'' story on sexual abuse in the Boy Scouts. How can CBS news even air a story like that without fully investigating and getting the facts straight from both sides. "Fair and Balanced" I think not!What ever happened to responsible journalism? It is every parent''s duty to ensure that their children''s activities are properly supervised. Unfortunately, for many parents, they just don''t take the time and drop their kids off to be baby sat by anyone who claims to be a rsponsible adult merely by their associations or affiliations. How dare CBS assume that The Boy Scouts of America is run by a bunch of child molesting pedophiles! The old idea that we are all victims just does not cut it any more. There is no personal responsibility, only a cruel world out there preying on the innocent. Hog wash! There was nothing said in the story about the parents role in the case reported on, and to end the story on a line like " The Boy Scouts is not a safe place for your son" is simply reprehensible.

[ov442]

More conservative Republican Values.
Teaching OBediance or you get huge guilt or punishments in the scouts. Obediance meaning unquestioning loyalty to your ''scout leaders''
The Change in the scouts handbook was only a recent change. The mindset that was being forced on these kids for the previous 95 years was the same.
They brag about their child abuse prevention, yet the man running it was a child porn(abuse) trafficker.
They did the exact same thing as another Cherished, Powerful, secretive and HIGH Moral value organization - the Catholic Church. They hid the crimes of their members and they swept it under the rug.
You people that defend the Scouts are in denial.
You think for one second that the majority of scouts who were abused would fess up about it? most are loyal to the end, and dont want the embarrassment.
My best friend from New Jersey went on scout ''jamborees'' constantly and he was a loyal servant! When the adults werent around which is OFTEN, they would do the most disgusting things with each other. Most often because of older scouts who were shown things by scout leaders.
The whole organization is a corrupt example of hippocrisy.

[Joe posey]

i knew of and incident like this happening when i was a scout, but, we only had one scout master with us, the other was called back to work, thinking that would have been the only one,up till now. which it was never reported.

[wlb2750]

The Boy Scout story is rediculous. Very safe organization. 2 adults must be with a child at all times. President Ford was a Boy Scout. Scouts do not have to do anything inappropriate. They abide by the Scout Law which you should look up. I have been a Scout leader for many years, my son is in Scouts. I would not hesitate in recommending Scouts. They are some of the finest dedicated individuals know.

[oleander8]

Is anyone really surprised?

[mcvet]

Wasn''t this the organization that made such a fuss a few years ago about the morals of their leaders? Seems that was just a front and they truly didn''t care what went on out of view. Just had to keep up a good front I guess.

[blancadebree]

All three of my ex-husbands were Boy Scouts, as well as Alter Boys, and Congressional Pages. None of them turned out to be warped or troubled men. They were wonderful husbands, who were devoted and loving. Queer as a three dollar bill, but nice, all the same.

[phil7603]

My kids are in Scouts - have been for years. Certainly is safer for them than with a ***-mad teacher or crack dealing principal in a public school (yes, they attend a public school) - and certainly safer than with a pedophile newscaster for a major network (yup, had one of those in town, too) And certainly safer than being a congressional page with a congressman running a gay escort service from his basement.

The rules work - just like to rule of driving the speed limit and not drinking and driving - The rule have worked for years - and parent involvement has, for years, been the key to success. Just looking for a place to drop your son? Drop him with congress or [perhaps} his lusty teacher. Looking for a quality program - JOIN WITH HIM and give him awesome memories!

[lastdance2]

RE :
JackSteen1 - For you - and All that you Support and Believe in ! ! !

A matter of - "Record" - Over 40 years ago

It people like you - That keep this "Criminal Activity" -
Alive and going Strong.

"J. Edgar Hoover" (FBI Director)
Often enjoyed : A romp in bed with : "Young Boys"

Video tapped - Statements : From former FBI Agents :
Describing how - They delivered Young Boys - For S*e*x*
Is evidence to that ! ! ! !

"Solicitation - Prostitution - Pimps"
The FBI - (Uncovered) - In one of it''s more finest moments

If those Young Boys, came from Juvenile Detention Centers.
Then - They may - "Not" - of had any Choice in the Matter
That activity - Now turns into a : S*e*x* - Slave Trafficking Operation.
of Young Boys

___________
Research :
The Secret Life of J Edgar Hoover
copy and paste (Google)
___________

Lastdance

[jacksteen1]

The Boy Scouts of America has been a rotten sepulcher of an organization for years - they have been harboring almost as many pedophiles as the Baptist Church...almost as many...and have been hypocritical in their program of not allowing gay children to join or allowing gay scoutmasters to serve.

Now come the failure at life middle-aged Crackers that see that they can sue the BSA, now that their counterparts have bled the Catholic Church white (and they are simply out of money)...and what do you have ? Nonsense like this cropping up all over the nation.

Grown men "remembering" abuse that happened 30 years ago.

Yeah - right.

Its all about blood sucking lawyers and MONEY these things happend years ago.Why wait untill now can we say STOP touching me.

[nvme3]

Abuse of a child is one of the most heinous acts that an adult could ever perpetrate on a child. It last the child a lifetime. the pain and isolation for the child is immeasurable. A child loves and trusts, those who are supposed to nurture and guide them, unreservedly. That is why when it is violated, the most strenuous effort to document and punish the predators must be sought. No one person or organization should be allowed to suppress vital information to the authorities. BSA is a great org. it is worthy of praise for the positive effects they have on young boys lives. The article mentions that there were thousands of file released to these men who were victims. It is a given that they were abuse and that they had compelling evidence to prove that they should see these files. the fact that the files exist speak volumes. Perhaps is this article stops one more child from being brutalized the the author has done a wonderful service to the communitee at large.

[firechief101]

Having read the comments on this story, I am both amazed and dismayed. This is not a story to display your politics, homophobia, perversion, conspiracy theories, or otherwise. As always, in this day and age, everyone misses the point!! IT IS ABOUT OUR KIDS!!!

[brianbwb-2009]

If the media would quit differentiating between gay molestation and rape, maybe some constructive dialogs could take place, but by emphasis on the homosexual nature of the crimes, it only encourages the religious hypocrites and homophobes to begin a pointless bashing.

Homosexuality is probably as old as gratuitous eroticism, and won''t go away. It is not, as some gay rights people posit, a biological "wiring problem", as it is not necessary to continue an individual''s life. It is, as all acts of erotic nature are, a choice.

But abusing ones power or position to engage in *** with an otherwise disinclined victim is rape, whether hetero- or homosexual, and should be dealt with as rape, or statutory rape if the victim is underaged, and the perpetrators should be duly sanctioned as prescribed by law, be they politicians, priests, teachers, policemen, "casting couch" film makers, or Boy Scout leaders.

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[andor3]

firechief101 said: "...lack of involvement is the biggest problem. All I can say, again, is BE THERE FOR YOUR KIDS! "

BRAVO! This is absolutely right. My father was involved with me in scouting for years and I learned so many great things in that time. But many parents regarded it as a babysitting service and refused to help despite the pleas from the few parents who were involved.

The way pedophiles get involved is when the parents are not participating

[firechief101]

I watched the story this evening as I prepared to take my son to his first Cub Scout meeting. I was horrified. Someone please name a children''s organization that has a better history. The BSA prevention program is award winning by any standard, certainly as compared to the Catholic Church (nothing against Catholics). The BSA has removed persons from the beginning (1910?)for the hint of inappropriate behavior. THE MAIN PROBLEM IS PARENTAL INVOLVMENT! IF YOU LEAVE YOUR CHILDREN WITH ANYONE YOU KNOW LITTLE ABOUT, WHY ARE YOU SUPRISED? The idea of the BSA or a similar organization is family involvement. My question is, where were you? IN THIS DAY AND AGE AS A PARENT, YOU DUMP THE KIDS AND GO RUN ERRANDS, WHY ARE YOU SUPRISED? BE INVOLVED, KNOW WHERE AND WHO YOUR KIDS ARE WITH, AND BE THERE! WHAT IS MORE IMPORTANT? But, that is OK nowadays, because it is always someone else''s fault? If you are busier than I am (I travel the country about 180 days per year) give me an excuse. I value the time I spend with my 6 year old son more than anything! I had a wonderful experience with the Scouts, because my parents spent the time WITH me! Go camping, go watch them play, help them build the pine racers! It is a shame we cannot trust anyone, God be with the victims. With all the child abuse I have seen in my 26 years as a Paramedic and Firefighter, lack of involvement is the biggest problem. All I can say, again, is BE THERE FOR YOUR KIDS! As we say in the South, It ain''t brain surgery!