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Magazine: The CIA Used Techniques Equivalent To Torture While Interrogating 9/11 Mastermind

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by nwihoosier August 6, 2007 9:48 AM EDT
tuckerboy,
You're one sad, lonely person.
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by tuckerndfw August 6, 2007 8:49 AM EDT
"The CIA does not torture people?"

Really?

Then why does the CIA maintain "black sites"?

And, why can't the government use all that "evidence" the CIA claims to have collected from those "high value detainees"?

The CIA should be disbanded, it is nothing more than a front organization for ExxonMobil and other war profiteers.

George Bush, et al, should be prosecuted for war crimes.

But, that won't happen because Americans do not support the US Constitution or rule of law.

OBL won.
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by lars008-2009 August 6, 2007 8:27 AM EDT
Posted by FeelFree1 at 05:14 AM : Aug 06, 2007

are you for or against slavery haji???
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by feelfree1 August 6, 2007 8:26 AM EDT
If the foam-covered screechings of 'lars008' make sense to you, you might not find this film to be interesting:

www.zeitgeistmovie.com

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by feelfree1 August 6, 2007 8:17 AM EDT
More on the:

"War Crimes Act of 1996"

"The bill passed by unanimous consent in the Senate and by a voice vote in the House,[1] showing that it was entirely uncontroversial at the time."

"Ten years later, the United States Supreme Court ruled in Hamdan v. Rumsfeld ( 000 U.S. 05-184 ) that Common Article 3 of the Third Geneva Convention applied to the War on Terrorism, with the unstated implication that any interrogation techniques that violated Common Article 3 constituted War Crimes.[2]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Crimes_Act_of_1996
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by feelfree1 August 6, 2007 8:05 AM EDT
retiredmilty,

Very good points.
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by retiredmilty August 6, 2007 8:02 AM EDT
For Annia1233 . . .

%u201Cshould I have to feel sorry and horror because a scum back murderer like this was tortured?%u201D

Answer, that%u2019s up to you, but you should feel sorry that your elected govt.. officials have to LIE about torturing these people. If that%u2019s the way they ( and you ) feel, then stand in the tallest mountain and shout . . %u201CWe torture prisoners %u201C If you%u2019re not proud of what you do that you must be ashamed.

John McCain was held prisoner during the Viet Nam war, and he was tortured. Do I think that was right? Hell no. . . . but looking at it from their side, they were proud to torture those who were bombing their cities and killing their country men.

In my opinion the END does NOT justify the means. . . .if this %u201Cscum back %u201C . . . ( I think you meant scum bag ) murder is proven guilty then hang or shot the SOB, but don%u2019t torture him to get that info, That is NOT what American is all about, at least NOT the America I was brought up in.

Retired Military . .
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by feelfree1 August 6, 2007 8:01 AM EDT

Re: "The very words of the Constitution proclaim Liberty and Justice for All!
Posted by MBPFRANCE at 04:44 AM : Aug 06, 2007"

"it applies to citizens of the usa haji..."

Does this mean that you think that our Constitution stands for tyranny and unjustice for everyone else, 'arse008/singinrick'?

www.zeitgeistmovie.com
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by lars008-2009 August 6, 2007 7:51 AM EDT
Posted by FeelFree1 at 04:45 AM : Aug 06, 2007

righttttttttt cuz you will only believe what your fascist nazi terrorislamic mullah tells you... funny how no mullahs have ever been suicide murderers... hahahaha

we all know u fascist nazi islamic muslims only do what your mullahs tell you%u2026%u2026%u2026 right haji%u2026%u2026%u2026%u2026
Muslim mullas chanted "kill the Kafir!" (non-muslim)%u2026%u2026%u2026%u2026%u2026%u2026%u2026..
A Hindu being beaten by Muslims in a mosque in Bangladesh. He was captured outside the mosque while going home. After Friday prayers were over, the Muslims came out and grabbed the first Hindu they could. Mr. Vimal Patak a Bangladeshi born Hindu was beaten to death with sticks as the Muslim mullas (priests) chanted "kill the Kafir!" (non-muslim). With folded hands he begged for his life and died a brutal death. It clearly show the cruelty of Islam. "
http://groups.msn.com/IslamicFury
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by lars008-2009 August 6, 2007 7:48 AM EDT
The very words of the Constitution proclaim Liberty and Justice for All!
Posted by MBPFRANCE at 04:44 AM : Aug 06, 2007

it applies to citizens of the usa haji...

not the enemies of the usa...

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by feelfree1 August 6, 2007 7:45 AM EDT

"New Three-D study supports federal finding in 9-11 tragedy"

That cartoon was made just for special folks, like you 'arse008'. I am happy for you, if you enjoyed it.

For a more serious analysis of our current socio-political situation, open-minded adults can view:

www.zeitgeistmovie.com
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by mbpfrance August 6, 2007 7:44 AM EDT
Anyone who understands interrogation techniques KNOWS that in the right 'conditions' anyone will tell you everything they know within 3 1/2 days of interogation being started! And that is using non physical intervention! Throw in 'the anything goes' concept and the interogators who are focused on hearing what justifies the torture itself will hear exactly that!

People seem to agree that anyone involved in real terrorism deserves what they get- but what happens to the unlucky *** that gets picked up because someone made a simple and unsubstantiated allegation! CIA say this isnt what happens!

Hope not because there are NO apparent DUE PROCESS checks and balances in place to prevent this from happening TO YOU!

Think about it! A person charged with injuring an animal in Santa Fe would stand better federal and state protection procedures than someone we 'think' is a terrorist! In what definition of 'justice' does anyone condone holding a person uncharged for years? held in foreign countries to simply avoid domestic entrenched rights and protection?

End result folks - we aint any better than them! Matter of fact we is worse! The very words of the Constitution proclaim Liberty and Justice for All! Who does that apply to cuz it ain't any prisoners held under CIA custody!!

Just pray that person is never YOU!
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by lars008-2009 August 6, 2007 7:39 AM EDT
Posted by FeelFree1 at 04:33 AM : Aug 06, 2007

hahahahahahaha

WTC
Study Backs Up Feds' Theory of Why World Trade Center Collapsed on Sept. 11
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,284816,00.html
New Three-D study supports federal finding in 9-11 tragedy
http://www.fox19.com/Global/story.asp?S=6683593&nav=0zHF
Study Supports Fed's Finding On WTC Collapse
http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=nation_world&id=5401655
Simulation Finds 9/11 Fireproofing Key
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/fn/4905202.html
Debunking The 9/11 Myths - Mar. 2005 Cover Story
PM examines the evidence and consults the experts to refute the most persistent conspiracy theories of September 11.
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/1227842.html
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by feelfree1 August 6, 2007 7:33 AM EDT
annia1233,

www.zeitgeistmovie.com
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by lars008-2009 August 6, 2007 7:28 AM EDT
Posted by ramos937 at 04:16 AM : Aug 06, 2007

"The world is a dangerous place, not because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing." Albert Einstein

The day may dawn when fair play, love for one's fellow men, respect for justice and freedom, will enable tormented generations to march forth triumphant from the hideous epoch in which we have to dwell. Meanwhile, never flinch, never weary, never despair. Winston Churchill From the ending of Churchill's last major speech in the House of Commons on (1 March 1955)
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by annia1233 August 6, 2007 7:23 AM EDT
should I have to feel sorry and horror because a scum back murderer like this was tortured? I remember the people jumping out of the twin towers, I remmember the family members looking for their loved ones. I remember. I say without reserves that if at that moment this monster had been given to the people that were wondering on the streets of manhatan looking for their loved ones, at told "this is the master mind of this horror" we all would have done street justice. I just enjoy every one of tortures he suffered. They are nothing compare to what we suffered.
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by ramos937 August 6, 2007 7:16 AM EDT
The administration has to take the fault for this. The CIA must have known that there would be no consequences to their torture methods.

I refer to Senator McCain who was tortured during the Vietnam War. He opposes torture on a number of grounds including the fact that someone undergoing torture will say anything to stop the pain. In 1502, the Templar Knights were arrested by the King of France. Under torture, they confessed to barbaric rites and unnatural sexual acts with one another. Even the Grand Master had to confess to such acts under torture.

The fact is we always in public condem torture. Yet these matters keep popping up.
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by feelfree1 August 6, 2007 7:12 AM EDT
Correction- should have been:

"Even (with) the (implementation) of the fascistic and un-Constitutional "Military Commissions Act", many, many U.S. officials and military members appear to be (eligible) for trial under the "War Crimes Act of 1996"

Sorry for all the typos.

"The law applies if either the victim or the perpetrator is a national of the United States or a member of the U.S. armed forces. The penalty may be life imprisonment or death. The death penalty is only invoked if the conduct resulted in the death of one or more victims."
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by lars008-2009 August 6, 2007 7:06 AM EDT
It's sad to see the morality of the United States sink to the depraved values of its adversaries.
Posted by studio41 at 03:58 AM : Aug 06, 2007

nobody can sink as low as fascist nazi terrorlam...

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Pictures!!!
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by insuradork August 6, 2007 7:06 AM EDT
I'm all broken up about that SANDNI66ER'S rights. He doesn't have any!!! Drive him mentally ill, so he does himself in!!!!!!!!
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