Comments on: Are Gang Members Using Military Training?

Military Police Have Briefed Local Police That Troops Could Be Sharing Their Skills

[samthetvcat]

Just thinking outside the box on this issue . . .

That first story about the guy who was just discharged who felt the need to join a gang - haven't there also been stories about the crappy job help soldiers are getting? Maybe instead of essentially booting our fine young vets to the curb as the pit stop to prison Bush ought to actually put his money where his mouth is and actually support the troops instead of giving them the 'Walter Reed' level of care.

This second story about active marines teaching what they've learned to gang members back in their old neighborhoods, maybe this says more about what it's like to live in these neighborhoods than the character of these soldiers . . . like haven't there been stories about how joining gangs is a survival mechanism where violence is rampant and opportunities are scarce? Maybe if kids saw the military as a viable alternative to the drug trade, gangs would lose some of their power and violence would go down . . . like maybe these marines recruiting gang members are role-modeling in a way that could go wrong, but with some refinement could be used to role-model in a way that would go right.

Guess it's the same basic message I'm always repeating - instead of writing these young men off as 'dangerous' and 'criminal' people should take a closer look to see whether there's potential as well . . . these are soldiers and veterans after all!

[incog-nito]

This is nothing new. Iraqi insurgents are joining the Iraqi army to get weapons and training. Same concept.

[djmo1-2009]

mh4cbs1,

RE:

"CULTURE OF WAR"

"CULTURE OF HATE"

"CULTURE OF REVENGE"

"CULTURE OF GREED"

"This is the American culture most recently catapulted to a new level by BUSH and CHENEY. How can we NOT expect gangs to thrive, when the example is set by the leaders at the top."
Posted by mh4cbs1

Sorry, these are nothing new our culture has always been as such in varying degrees, recent times are seemingly worse though.

[stevex47]

I took us pretty far off topic. I apologize. Sorry.

[stevex47]

Clinton left office with a surplus...think that Bush thanked him?

What will Bush say to the next guy....Sorry, I left you broke dude?

Where's seven pesos when you need him, ha

[cyinzl8r]

Mr Hoppy, I see you managed to hit every paranoid conspiracy going. Good job my man, You wont just settle for the "Bush did it" line. You sir are a true nut case! Keep up the good work.

[mh4cbs1]

CULTURE OF WAR

CULTURE OF HATE

CULTURE OF REVENGE

CULTURE OF GREED

This is the American culture most recently catapulted to a new level by BUSH and CHENEY. How can we NOT expect gangs to thrive, when the example is set by the leaders at the top.

Consider instead....

CULTURE OF PEACE

CULTURE OF ECONOMIC JUSTICE

CULTURE OF COMPASSION

CULTURE OF A SUSTAINABLE ECONOMY

We would care about our fellow citizens, all would have health care without charge or bankruptcy. All would have free college tuition. Schools would all have strong liberal arts in addition to "math and science". The billionaires would not have a LOWER tax rate than average wage earners (which IS the case today).

We need a transformation of this society. VOTE OUT the Republicrats who gave us needless war ($500 BILLION), bloated Cold War military budgets - mre tha nall other nations combined, NAFTA sucking out our good jobs, huge tax cuts for the filthy rich...

ANOTHER WORLD IS POSSIBLE -- Green Party gp.org

[xzavierbrown]

well..if we dont then we would have the very same people whinning now that we dont take ni ggers because they are ni ggers in the military.
WE dont need more laws or whatever, we just need to implement what we have.
If they are a gangmember and they harm or kill anybody, then we should deal with them accordingly instead of listening to morons like al shaprton and jessie jackson

[rafterman1]

===This is perhaps the most pointless newsless sensationalist story I have seen CBS post recently, and they've been running a pretty hard record of useless tripe....Another bit of useless bleating from CBS===

This may come as a shock to you, but many, if not most, Americans are probably surprised by this news story. It is certainly not "bleating" to make people aware of it. The only ones who think this is tripe are Bush supporters, who will go to any lengths to protect their boy. And make no mistake, Bush's abuse of the military has made this problem even worse.

[omega39-2009]

I can't help it...this is the chatter of a nut....this is the nut talkin' nutsense
Posted by l8c6

ROFLMAO!! Too funny!

[mrhoppy-2009]

Bush is the leader of the biggest gang on Earth and he didn't learn it in the military, he after all is a deserter along with draft dodger Cheney. (A man so heartless he needs a pacemaker to stay alive and he even killed the battery on that!)

The biggest most violent gang on Earth, are the people that kill more people through violence on Earth, and that is the US military and the merchants of death.

Bushes grandfather Prescott, was the person in charge of awarding military contracts during WWII and he lost his personal assets in 1942 under the Trading With The Enemies Act for giving IG Farben 100M to build 5 death camps in Germany.

So nothing has changed, the sheeple still get murdered by this virus on humanity and your congress, which are blackmailed and bought by the same people responsible should be held accountable.

Who is this invisible hand that earns TRILLIONS killing the innocents? They are the Ashkenazi Jews from Germany and Poland which have taken control of the US government on behalf of Israel. (The same people that did 911 and then blamed it on the innocents in Iraq.)

They have complete contempt for Americas uneducated masses that serve in the military and can't kill enough of them through war, mercury vaccines, aspartame, the war OF DRUGS and DEA.

What are you going to do about it rednecks? Nothing because you are all cowards and you know it.

[loveliberty]

The first thing that comes to mind after reading this article, and the comments is; These military trained gangs are the USA's version of Al Qaeda and Taliban radicals.

[rafterman1]

===I can't help it...this is the chatter of a nut....this is the nut talkin' nutsense that has harmed MY country you pile of feces. It's been right wing fascists in power for the past 25 years nut head!!===

As was already pointed out, there have always been gangs in the military, but since Bush has driven our military into the ground, forcing them to lower standards, the problem is even worse.

[standlee5]

Don't blacks have anything better to do in this day and age of equal opportunity. This is what their grandparents and great grandparents fought for?

[michellem99-2009]

snideglass.true.
Now lay yer paw on that there reader
Now report to where yer to go
Just do as yer told
No whining as you belong to the state
Poor Dr Jekyl could not see today.
Yet he was lucky he didn't
The good Doc had a sidekick
Oh yes Mr Hyde
Eeah so differebt from nite and day
One was good and the other bad.
So Doc he could not help Mr Hyde.
Why my dear they are the same person.
So there is a new one today.
Just becareful as he here

[l8c6]

You are exactly right! Unfortunately the liberals have taken those consequences out of the equation decades ago. Consider that they are putting American troops in prison for shooting back in the middle of a war zone! Yet they allow rapists' and child molestors' to roam free on the streets after enabling the actions of those animals by who picked on them in grade school, or how mean their parents were to them. It is sickening! Just think what it will be like if Clinton or any of those other left wing freaks gets elected next year!
Posted by nvhc

I can't help it...this is the chatter of a nut....this is the nut talkin' nutsense that has harmed MY country you pile of feces. It's been right wing fascists in power for the past 25 years nut head!!

[braceday]

And Leavenworth is a joke. You are talking about people willing to give their life for a scarf. What makes you think jail is really going to prevent anything? Again, not thinking like the problem-makers. The only way to fully disperse is to integrate it into the mil culture. You already have them in a ready to die state of mind. Put them on front line. And don't blame any politician, because most of them are from suburbia so they are not prepared for any of this on any level. You just assume because one takes one side that he/she is? Doubtful.

[rafterman1]

===Just think what it will be like if Clinton or any of those other left wing freaks gets elected next year!===

Well, we already have seen the disaster that right wing freaks having control have unleashed upon us. It can't possibly be worse than Bush and company. Conservatives have unleashed a wave of dishonor upon our country that will take years to fix.

[braceday]

Again, this has been going on forever. I was in the military. It's just precious white people always figure this stuff out late. There have been gangs in the military since before MS13 got worldwide. It was overlooked because at the time, those in power thought they could control it. However, the military is not as selective a process as you think, and nor is the training. I'd be more concerned if one of those gang leaders picked up a tactician's book. Then you'd have a problem.

[nvhc]

jjarden:

You are exactly right! Unfortunately the liberals have taken those consequences out of the equation decades ago. Consider that they are putting American troops in prison for shooting back in the middle of a war zone! Yet they allow rapists' and child molestors' to roam free on the streets after enabling the actions of those animals by who picked on them in grade school, or how mean their parents were to them. It is sickening! Just think what it will be like if Clinton or any of those other left wing freaks gets elected next year!