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- A lot of the post that I am reading seem to be coming from people who are truly ignorant to gang affiliation and gang tactics/life. I my self have been serving my country for 2 years now, currently in Iraq. I my self am also a member the Blacc Gangsta Disciples all belonging to the same Folk Nation of GD's as the unfortunate mothers son was trying to be apart of. As a young man from the streets, who has lived the life, for a lot of us, the only way to get away is through the military. It is unfortunate what happened to SGT Johnson. I have no respect for the men who were apart of the initiation process. A BOS is never supposed to inflict pain or death to a member of his family. Every G knows this. Yes I am proud to be serving my country and yes I regret some of the things i have done in my past, but i appreciate all that i have been through and all that i have learned. The true principles instilled in me growing up in a house full of FOLKS and a neighborhood that followed the NATION, and the discipline and values learned in the military made me into the man, father, and husband that i am today and wouldnt change it for the world. Before you denounce members of a street gang, or those who were/are actively affiliated with a street gang, take the time to actually evaluate their situation as a whole, not your situation but theirs. Before you denounce what that street gang is all about learn the history and background of it first, because believe it or not, (learned from my father a CHI-Town Native, a true G) the growth and development of my family, neighborhood, and community are the reason that i am a BOS. And the last resort is violence. I to this day still proudly where my flag (both US and bandana) for my friends, family, loved ones, and fellow soldiers who have fought and fallen in the struggle of society, freedom, and justice. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, you have mine. Gangs will always be a problem, as long as the people involved dont know the true history/start of their organization. "Let those without sin cast the first Stone" Banning a known gang member/someone affiliated with a gang from enlisting in the military will hurt a lot of people in my opinion more than help. The military has made a big difference. I love it!!! Honor and Courage!!! Hooah!!
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- Gangs seem to be increasing in presence even in a little high moral state like Utah. It is no wonder that when they take youth from impoverished areas of the U.S.A. that they introduce gang members into the millitary. I know of first hand how many are entering via North Las Vegas, Nevada as I observed the gang attire in applicants during processing. We can only hope that the millitary will encourage them thru training not to return to the business of gangs. If not we will end up with very well trained threat groups domestically. Let us hope that history does not repeat itself.
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- If illegal drugs were eliminated we would have to lay off thousands of police and the police unions would not stand for that!!
Posted by dirtydog55 at 01:48 PM : Jul 30, 2007
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These people that are no longer locking perps up might be retrained in medicine or research or 'what is there a need for'...
Posted by ToolMangler at 10:14 PM : Jul 30, 2007
There seems to be more incentive to keep fighting the war on drugs than there is to win it. How long has this 'war on drugs' been going on now?
Since 1971 when Nixon first used the term?
How about 1880 when the U.S. and China agreed to stop opium shipments to the U.S.?
The 'war on gangbangers' will be no different. We will still be fighting street gangs 100 years from now. The only difference is that they will be even more violent. - Reply to this comment
- If illegal drugs were eliminated we would have to lay off thousands of police and the police unions would not stand for that!!
Posted by dirtydog55 at 01:48 PM : Jul 30, 2007
These people that are no longer locking perps up might be retrained in medicine or research or 'what is there a need for'... - Reply to this comment
- ****SEE BELOW POST*****
THIS IS #2. PART 1 IS BELOW THIS ONE.
A talk from the CID Agent that there wasn't anything they could do unless they committed a crime. The next day I got a call at home from my 1SG telling me that the Battalion commander, LTC M wanted to see me, my commander, and my 1SG 1st thing in the morning. Ok I thought. I almost thought that the LTC wanted to say what a fine thing I did by weeding out this gang banger in his barracks. Instead I got an *** chewing for going outside the chain of command and bringing unneeded attention to the unit. Ultimately, the incident was handled by a brand new MPI who had the gang banger open his computer up to see what was in it. And yes, there were 2 folders on it. 1 containing adult movies, and the other with pictures of his gang banging ***. When the MPI asked him about all the stuff in the room, his reply was "Its not mine, my friends just sent it to me". MPI said, "OK". In summary.....the guy went on in training and is now in a US Army Special Operations unit on Fort Bragg (Civil Affairs to be exact). Im out now, and I look back and say........What ever%u2026%u2026.I did what I could and the system just beat me down - Reply to this comment
- I recently left over 11 years of active military service. I was stationed at Fort Bragg NC and witnessed first hand not only the total incompetence of the US Army CID, but also of many commanders both company level who are frightened of the battalion cdrs and BN cdrs who want to get promoted brush things quietly under the table rather then recognize the actual problems at hand with gangs in my Army. If you think thats out of line, here is one such case I will base my statement on. I was a platoon sergeant and responsible to inspect among other things the living conditions of the soldiers under my charge. As I was conducting an unannounced barracks inspection, I went into one room and saw gang paraphernalia all over the place. How do I know it was gang paraphernalia? 2 ways. 1, I was a trained EO representative which includes gangs in the military awareness but the main way was by asking a long time, dear, close friend of mine by the name of Hunter Glass who is mentioned in the above story. I also showed the pictures I took with my phone cam to another close friend of mine who was a current (MPI) ---MP Detective. Both he and Hunter said the guy was a Vice Lord (with the Bloods). I contacted CID immediately, sent them the pictures that were validated by 2 separate gang experts and what did I get in return?????---*****see next post*****
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- Let's not start racial profiling the situation before we know what is happening. We know that Bush's military machine is actively recruiting felons but we don't know what percentage of them become criminals in the service. We need to know what happens with the 125,000 "moral waiver" troops. If they comprise a substantial percent of the gang problem then the recruitment process is at fault. But what the hay, mercenaries have never been gentle souls.
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- First I read that blacks are not enlisting in the Marines/Army as much as last decade. Now I read that the impression is being given that the blacks in the Armed Services, are involved in gangs. Maybe they are not cut out for that....
what do you think? - Reply to this comment
- I was told by a black, a captain in ,that Crips were started by tuffs but taking over by academics. Falwell style politicised judeo christians organized Black_Blonde mixers on universities African military officers at universities met rehabilitated black street members. This genie plowed thru cities crushing and assimilating competition...kind of like microsoft. It seems African officers have their influence in US domestic affairs. Whence, pristine behavior blackboys making big bucks on drugs...like pharmaceutical investors.
Police have local spying...neighborhood watch groups...wasn't BTK a judeo christian policer? - Reply to this comment
- The problem is gangs are a big business. Posted by sblizzy at 10:08 AM : Jul 30, 2007
Exactly... The gang that is the subject of this story is nation-wide and made over $100 million in one year selling drugs, and the gang FORBIDS members from using drugs.
So they are not selling to themselves. If that isn't a business I don't know what is.
Illegal drugs keep a lot of "honest" people employed. Think about it. If the war on illegal drugs was won, there wouldn't be the need for so many DEA and other law enforcement agents who are dedicated to stopping illegal drugs.
If illegal drugs were eliminated we would have to lay off thousands of police and the police unions would not stand for that!! - Reply to this comment
