Comments on: Is Iraq A Terrorist "University?"

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[markster6]

j-whitman
regarding your last comments, don't you believe there is a global jihad?

Don't you believe the jihadists anticipate Europe will be an Islamic caliphate, possibly occuring in your lifetime?

[smirk5]

And none of this is hindsight either. The Bush Admin was warned beforehand that what is going on in Iraq right now could happen. They truly didn't plan for it. The Bush Admin has failed this country.

[feelfree1]

SearingTruth,

Re: "When justice is gone, when freedom is gone, when hope is gone, all that remains is desperation and death."

Mission Accomplished!!!

Re: ""A principle, sacrificed, is rarely resurrected."

Not easily, that is for sure!

[j-whitman]

markster6,,, I've told you I don't blame Isreal, hell look at thier political structure 5 or 6 seprate parties with another sepreate 5 or 6 parties within each & all with opposing agenda's...

You also don't have much of an undrestanding of Isreal or thier history, do you ?? --- It's intresting & every bit as violent as muslims in the area.

[searingtruth]

"And so the seeds they had sown with such great attention and fervor, never knowing the flower, devoured all in their compass."
SearingTruth

"When justice is gone, when freedom is gone, when hope is gone, all that remains is desperation and death."
SearingTruth

"We felt that treating our enemy with the utmost brutality would terrify our foes into submission."
George W. Bush and Osama Bin Laden.
SearingTruth

"A principle, sacrificed, is rarely resurrected."
SearingTruth


A Future of the Brave - www.searingtruth.com

[markster6]

Iraq has two components.

One, a civil war because the Sunni's don't want to lose the power they had. Two, a vacuum created by the fall of Saddam, which led to an Al-Qaeda presence.

I believe our administration failed to recognize both components would develop by invading the country.

[smirk5]

I think the plan was:

Invade

Smile and grab flowers and chocolates.

Install Chalabi

Pump out the oil.

A funny thing happened on the way to this retarded fantasy. The reality that the Bush Admin was completely warned about actually happened.

[j-whitman]

FeelFree1,, We are back on topic,, You can't explain terrorism in Iraq without relating to the cause, Palestine & Isreal

[j-whitman]

markster6,,, Terrorism & the 9/11 attack had nothing to do with Iraq untill now, it has become the main training camp for al Quida & other groups.

[markster6]

feelfree1
thanks for your comments. For the record,
it was j-whitman who went off topic. I just responded.

[feelfree1]

patriotic9,

Re: "To give Iraq to Islamic Radicals?"

I think so. This was easily predictable, and was predicted, and the 'new', Bush regime crafted Iraqi 'constitution', all but guaranteed this outcome.

This helps the Bush regime make a connection between Iraq and their bogus 'War on Terror'.

The majority of the Bush regime 'mission' in Iraq has been 'accomplished', in my opinion.

[j-whitman]

markster6,,, I think it's about damm time we started gettin it right, don't you ???
, Yes, there are attacks in other countries, mostly against the governments of those countries..
. The issue with Palestine & Isreal is the sole source of the 9/11 attack & it has absoultly nothing to do with our "Freedoms or Democracy"... You have a common missconception that Isreal is innocent in the affair.... Not so in reality, the problems go way back to 1947,
. No no, I'm not against Isreal, just the Zionism & unchecked support we have given them since 1947.

[smirk5]

Our military has been built around the idea of fighting a huge McWar, not a decades long counter-insurgency campaign on a huge scale. The enemy has the ultimate advantage. Our men have lives to go back to in the states. Most Iraqi militants have nowhere to go. They'll fight forever. It was the same in Vietnam. If our current leaders had shown up for that war, they might have anticipated this.

[feelfree1]

markster6,

Re: "j-whitman- You like to blame all this terror in the world on Israel."

I haven't seen this. This poster only seems to attribute the terrorism to Israel, that they are directly responsible for.

Thi poster has never made any claim that Israel is responsible for all of the terrorism in the world.

You have constructed a straw-man here. It looks like you are trying to change the subject.

At any rate, this thread is about Iraq, and this ridiculous propaganda article. Please stay on-topic.

[patriotic9]

I think that this was the orignal intent.

Posted by FeelFree1 at 12:41 AM : Jun 23, 2007

I didn't understand this last point. What was the original intent?
To give Iraq to Islamic Radicals?

[patriotic9]

Posted by Smirk5 at 12:41 AM : Jun 23, 2007

I agree with you. It's so easy for the terrorist to get trained like it was never before. They join Iraqi Security Forces, get Training and Weapons by US Military and use the same WEAPONS and TRAINING to kill US troops in the darkness of night who train them during day light.

The world's best Military with the best Military equipments in the history of man kind, is losing battle by that enemy who doesn't have ARMY, NAVY, AIR FORCE and MARINE.

BUSH has done what nobody else could ever do.

You made it happen BUSH. CHENEY LEADS THE WAY.

[markster6]

j-whitman
You like to blame all this terror in the world on Israel. How about the terrorist attacks against India, Russia, Thailand, Philippines, Bali, Spain etc. etc. etc. You choose to blame it on the US and Israel instead of recognizing a global jihad against infidels. My God, even ultra-liberal Canada has not been immune from this insanity.

By the way, since you refer to Israel of 1947, it was Israel that was attacked by Egypt, Jordan, Iraq, Lebanon, Syria, and the Palestinians during that time period. You choose to refer to US policies during that time instead of these other countries?

[rhs648]

"We invaded Iraq, evoking fundamentalism from young and old Muslims all over the world and thus helped al Qaeda's recruitment efforts so much that they gained the sheer numbers necessary to transform themselves from a bunch of bandits with only localized representation into a true global organization with both breadth of membership and depth of skills.

Posted by honest_news

These people didn't need any help. These groups have been growing for a number of years, in part because western governments put-up with occassional incidents around the work. Shutting these groups down will take a unified effort by governments everywhere and a great deal of guts and persistency. The hornets nest won't dissapear on its own.

[feelfree1]

patriotic9,

You make some very good points, except I think that 'al-Qaeda-in-Iraq' is a cruel psy-ops hoax, and I don't think that it was a mistake that Iraq's government was transformed from a secular one, under Saddam, to the current theocractic form. I think that this was the orignal intent.

[smirk5]

Can any Cons here explain specifically why creating and training more enemies that can move around the world to kill Americans is a good thing for our country? Please defend your "create more enemies" strategy with some actual specifics that explain to all of us why more enemies is a positive achievement.