Comments on: West Baghdad Walls Cause Murders To Plunge

Barriers Dividing Warring Neighborhoods Cause Homicides To Drop From 275 Per Week To 10

[heetseeker]

radiob

I think in an earlier post I suggested that the building of the walls is a testament to our failure in Iraq. Back in 2005 an Iraqi was asked to compare the before and after situation in his country. He stated that under Saddam Iraqi's lived in a prision and now they are living in a jungle. With the "walling" of neighbourhoods you could say that some Iraqi's are now living in jungles within prisons. Either way the situation does not look good at all.

I do not believe that this was in the vision of the framers and architects of the Iraq war. Yet such is the chaos in Iraq, that we are planning only for today and failing to consider how
todays decisions will impact tomorrow.

By its very nature a wall is a symbol on separation. Where people are separate they do not communicate. Where there is no communication there is suspicion. Where there is suspicion there is fear and so it goes. This plays perfectly into the hands of the internal and foreign agitators who want to divide Iraq between themselves.

[radiob-2009]

This is the second time in a week that CBS has posted a story on the building of walls in Iraq. The walls that provide security also provide seperation from other groups of Iraqis. The Germans did this with the Warsaw ghetto and everyone knows what followed. Know think of history and the seperation of groups and what has followed from the beginning of time to present day? Walls visible or invisible only provide a temporary solution to a long standing issues amongst various groups which either result in the destruction of one of the groups or the enslavement by various means.

[crater7]

Before Bush decided to infleck his SHOCK AND AWE on a conntry thad had nothing to do with with the 9-11 attacks on our country, there were no walls. People walked the streets,made trips to the markets, children walked to schools, played in playgrounds. There were no bombings. Sunni and Shia's lived and worked together.
Four years after the SHOCK AND AWE,Baghdad is a city of walls, total distruction in places, people are afraid to leave their homes. Sunni's are killing Shia's. Shia's are killing Sunni's.
But, Hey, SADDAM IS DEAD, SADDAM IS DEAD.

[neoconrcrazy]

"The only 'America haters' that I see are those who wish to see more American blood and treasure squandered in an illegal, self-defeating, and disgraceful war of aggression, waged by the illegitimate and greedy Bush puppet."

Posted by FeelFree1


that sentiment is shared by over 60% of the American people - and growing everyday.

the misuse of America's trust is echoed across this country and those who deny it's true and refuse to accept that change is necessary are only fooling themselves.

[heetseeker]

From an American perspective, I can't help wonder if the divisions between the Sunni and the Shia are beneficial to us or not.

Posted by rhs648 at 05:24 AM : Apr 29, 2007

This is a fair point. But it is also part of our problem in Iraq. We have been trying to design an Iraq that suits us, that reflects our needs, wants and perspectives. Since 2003 Iraq has become a laboratory experiment gone wrong. A classic example of the inherent dangers of geo-political and social engineering (or meddling).

It is plain to me that there is no way under the sun that we can construct an Iraq in our image, reflecting our values and sympathetic to our positions. It is simply not going to happen. The owners of Iraq are the Iraqi's themselves. We need to ensure that the new Iraq reflects their wishes and aspirations. If in defining those aspirations Iraqi's (Sunni's, Shia and Kurd) decide that they want to live apart - we must help them to realise that outcome.

We cannot impose our vision of the future on the Iraqi's. We need to let them decide it for themselves. More than that, we need to prepare ourselves for the reality that what is best for them may not be what is best for us.

[radiob-2009]

#3 Seize and liquidate the assets of war profiteers like Bechtel, Halliburton, Blackwater, Wackenhut, G.E., Lockheed-Martin, the American Enterprise Institute, the Carlyle Group, the Rendon Group, AIPAC, and so forth, and use the proceeds to create a reparations fund for the Iraq, Afghan, and U.S. victims of the global Bush regime/PNAC terror crusade.


And in the process corporate American just went bankrupt and subsequently Amercia.Who sits on the boards and who has significant quantitys of stock and bond ownership?

[rhs648]

"The only 'America haters' that I see are those who wish to see more American blood and treasure squandered in an illegal, self-defeating, and disgraceful war of aggression, waged by the illegitimate and greedy Bush puppet."

Posted by FeelFree1

This sounds like something that could have come from an Al Qaeda manual.

[rhs648]

Most of us could just as easily be living in other countries if our ancestors had not found their way to America. For those of us who like the American way of life, we are blessed that our ansestors came here. Otherwise, we would not have the American constitution to protect us. Lets not read too much into the word blessed as a religious concept. You do not have to be religious to feel blessed.

[rhs648]

Most of us could just as easily be living in other countries if our ancestors had not found their way to America. For those of us who like the American way of life, we are blessed that our ansestors came here. Otherwise, we would not have the American constitution to protect us. Lets not read too much into the word blessed as a religious concept. You do not have to be religious to feel blessed.

[rhs648]

Most of us could just as easily be living in other countries if our ancestors had not found their way to America. For those of us who like the American way of life, we are blessed that our ansestors came here. Otherwise, we would not have the American constitution to protect us. Lets not read too much into the word blessed as a religious concept. You do not have to be religious to feel blessed.