Comments on: CBS: Death Squads In Iraqi Hospitals

Intelligence Seen By CBS News Says Hospitals Are Command Centers For Shiite Militia

[rsoxfan1123]

So, basically, forcing democracy into Iraq is placing the majority (shiites) in power. The problem with pushing democracy on these people is it is becoming increasingly obvious that far too many of them are savages. Aren't there arab nations where they still chop your hand off for stealing an apple and this is public entertainment?

[zykracosmos]

It is interesting to note that Rumsfeld and Bush eliminated all members of the Bath Party (Sunnis) from participating in the new army / government, while failing to neutralize an even greater threat to internal security when they had the chance- Al Sadr. Now he is emboldened and runs the most powerful military machine inside Iraq, while legally participating in the government. Bush and Rumsfeld have not only acquiesed the Iraqi turmoil to a state of civil war, they caused it. This is because the neocons, with Cheney at the center, originally were more focused on grabbing and securing the oilfields- the original reason for going to war- than focusing on organizing a government in Iraq that could function. Taking a group of anarchists and telling them to form a democracy where there has never been one was an absurd supposition. Unfortunately, there may be no way to stop the slaughter now, and the US may have to pull out and accept the blame that is sure to come from the Europeans.

[cbs_oliver]

CBS would be advised to get its own story rather than just parrot one made for them by the US military.

Various news reports in the past have suggested to me that the US military has tried several times without success to kill Sadr and still wishes to do so.

He has certainly been vilified in several stories originating from the US military. This story fits that pattern.

I'm not inclined to believe it all without independent corroberation.

[alphaa10-2009]

hamiltongrad said, "For the history lesson, it was weak kneed Carter who gave away Iran to loonie religious zealots ..."

As a student of history, you get an F for effort. Your remediation-- to acquire an understanding of what the Shah represented to a growing plurality of Iranians, which include the very attributes you assign Carter, weak-kneed, feeble and obstructive.

But it was not Carter who invaded the embassy, and it not his regime to give away. It *was* Carter who launched a rescue mission for which the Iranian revolutionaries never forgave him.

And speaking of weak-kneed pols, you also forget Reagan's crew was found trading arms to the Iranians to get a little cash to toss to the Contras. If political corruption is part of today's GOP watch, it certainly was then, as well.
Better button your cardigan, and review your history. It is a chilling reminder the GOP has a terrible history of corruption and incompetence merely "perfected" with Bush43.

[drgoodwin12]

Here is the link to the ABC news story http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=2525978 they have changed the original story from the police carrying out the assasinatons to the police being complicit in them.They are human and can make errors.All of these storys along with Woodwards book,the NIE report only confirm that members of the Iraqi govt.,military and police are working with the militias,terrorist and insurgents.With the lack of news coming out of Iraq last week when it is know known that the bloodshed in Iraq increased makes me wonder in light of Woodwards book,the NIE report if this adminstration was trying to do some damge control with the Foley story.Divert people from the main issue facing our country Iraq and how it has become a "cause celebre" for the terrorist.Throw a lamb out to slaughter so us wolves will spend all our time on the lamb.Well the lamb may end up being more than one and we will not forget the books and reports.We are not that ignornant sorry rovettes.

[drgoodwin12]

To IZlady have you ever read AGAINST ALL ENEMIES?Terrorist czar Richard Clarke and his organization could not 100% with absolute conviction determine that Al Queda was responsible for the attacks against our embassies until one year prior to the Monica Lewisky scandal broke.By this time they knew with utmost certainty that all of the attacks were related,it was then that President Clinton ordered the bombings of the training camps.The republican party pounced on this as they said it was a diversion.Second Clinton handed over an Intel assesment,stating that the greatest threat to our country was Al Queda.Everyone supports the troops that do their jobs honorably.It is the premediated war in Iraq that Bush planned 11 days into his first term(sources:previous book mentioned and THE PRICE OF LOYALTY)both written by republicans and never rebuked.How come CBS does not have the story on the 700 Iraqi police that are carrying out these assasinations?

[wvce]

mh4CBS1, outside of our differing points of view on al-Sadr, I generally agree with you. I know the history of all the events you mentioned. I also know the meaning of the term "blowback".
I have one more thing to add. I read a partial translation of a speech by al-Sadr in which he made the statement "We threw out the British, we threw out Saddam, and now we'll throw out the Americans!". That infuriated me. I thought "No you didn't, you fat, nasty, snaggle-toothed son-of-a-b*tch. YOU didn't throw out Hussein. The AMERICAN MILITARY did. If the AMERICAN MILITARY hadn't thrown him out, you'd still be soiling your man-dress every time Hussein or one of his psychopathic sons looked your way.". Again, I don't agree with this war, but give credit where credit is due.

[truthsearch]

Iran: The Next War (for Israel):

http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=56761

[izlady]

Funny! After working in Iraq for the past 2.5 years; I can't help but be extremely disappointed.
1)To be in the Military; you have accepted the possibility and responsibility of being shipped somewhere/sometime to protect your country, so let%u2019s stop undermining our men and women in uniform and treating them like children who need our protection! It is their choice to be in uniform; it is not mandatory, and most of them are proud of what they do.
2)Some how the public blames bush after 6 months of being in house, without looking back at the previous 8 years %u201Cwasted%u201D under the Clinton administration! Terrorism existed years and years ago, no one did anything about it, and thank god that our president is stepping up to the plate and dealing with this whole mess over seas, instead of bringing the war home!
3) I%u2019ve seen, talked, worked, and lived with Iraqis, and most if not all of them are thankful for the liberation, although concerned in regards to security, but remain hopeful.
For everything there is a price, and for war there is a big price tag attached, for us to stop living in fear every time we get on a plane, train, or even the subway, and for Iraqis to finally be able to rebuild their country; we all have to pay that price.
We didn't start it, they did.

[wvce]

mh4CBS1, the reason I think we should have taken out al-Sadr is because that man fields a private army and aggressively advocates attacks against American troops. Not only that, but he and his Mahdi Army are responsible for a great number of those dead bodies turning up every morning in abandoned lots and garbage dumps. You probably think that I endorse this war. I don't and I never did. Regardless of whether I agree with it or not, American soldiers are in Iraq and they are being killed and maimed because of attacks encouraged and coordinated by that man. So yes, I think he should have been dealt with. I don't think you mean it this way, but to suggest otherwise is to suggest that since American troops are in Iraq under false pretenses, they should just take their punishment. I do not agree with this war, but I'm still an American and I wish American soldiers the best.