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CBS News Exclusive: W.Va. Senator Says Invasion Unnecessary Even If Saddam Would Still Be In Power

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by sharncedar September 10, 2006 3:21 PM EDT
"This biggest fear of Anglo-Saxon America"

Actually, the war is heaviest supported not by anglo-saxon (wave I of immigration circa 1700) by recent immigrants such as the Italian and Irish (wave II of immigration circa 1900). Those of us old-time anglo-saxons are most likely to be derived from Quakers or Puritans or something like that, a large number of us true cultural pacifists if not pacifist then certainly isolationist.

I really doubt the "Bush" family is old American, they are most likely the Busch or the Busche or the Busminskys. Their values are certain not American. Classic Americans abhor the notion of a centralized king or strong president, as much as they abhor foreign entanglements and wars.

At some point, maybe some of you newcomers will bother to listen to wisdom, otherwise we will continue the present stupid and disasterous policy.

SC

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by pjtk50 September 10, 2006 3:16 PM EDT
Wolfi, you forgot the somes like: American President(s) liberated country from its natural born inhabitants. Oh and when were the ones you mentioned US supported and financed allies during their securing of power?????????
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by grazinggoat September 10, 2006 2:02 PM EDT
Alpha1 said: Critical Bush and Cheney assertions about Iraq turn out to have originated with fragmentary or single-source origins which compromised its reliability-- as noted at the time by contributing analysts.

It would be interesting to have the following information revealed: Who was the single-source origine of that information and how come it has not been double-cheked and/or corroborated by parallel service in the CIA? What conflict of interest it could have? Was he/she working for another foreign state, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Koweit, or even Israel? All of them were willing to get rid of Saddam? Or has this information been fabricated on purpose just in order to trigger the process of war on IRAQ, and open up the military and armement machine economy that was in big needs, because the economy was faltering?
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by mluce2 September 10, 2006 1:58 PM EDT
Wolf, are you not listening? The Senate got the intellegece report at the last min. They barely had time to read the summary...They only provided for "the use of force if necessary." It was not a declaration of war! All of the evidence that is currently extant points to a deliberate set of lies. Not mistakes, not exaggerations, LIES! Your comparing Saddam to Hitler, Stalin, et al is nonsense. Saddam was weak, cutoff and contained. He had done monsterous things...in the '80's when he was our lapdog. Let me remind you that Iraq had nothing to do with our war on "terror." NOW YOU WANT TO DECLARE A WAR ON EVIL? Not only is that ludicrous, and pointless it begs the question of "which evil?" What of a government that premimtively invades, tortures, spies domesticly, causes the deaths of thousands of innocents? Is that not demonstratively demoniac evil? Let us declare a war on those evils.
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by grazinggoat September 10, 2006 1:43 PM EDT
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RonnieHM, you%u2019re better put some substance in your comments instead of just filling up fertilizer with personal attacks on others.
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by tank611 September 10, 2006 1:34 PM EDT
QUOTE:

'characterizing this engulfing disaster as mere darkness before the dawn, is misleading.'

The war in Iraq has been a string of stunning successes:


Success- invasion of Iraq
Success- destruction of Iraq's armed forces
Success- occupation of Iraq's capitol city
Success- occupation of all of Iraq
Success- removal of Iraq's government
Success- free elections
Success- capture of Saddam Hussein
Success- death of Uday and Qusay Hussein
Success- death of Al-Zarqawi
Success- capture of 50 out 55 on Iraq's 'Most Wanted' list
Success- introduction of new Iraqi currency
Success- formation of the new Iraqi Army
Success- Iraqi army operates independantly
Success- more free elections
Success- formation of new Iraqi government
Success- restoring electicity levels to pre-war conditions
Success- more free elections
Success- Arab countries sending new ambassadors to Iraq

The Independent Electoral Commission of Iraq calculated that nearly 11.9 million Iraqis--approximately 75 percent--voted in the December 2005 elections. That's 11.9 million Iraqis who want democracy.
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by tank611 September 10, 2006 1:09 PM EDT
QUOTE:

'Now we are stuck in this quagmire.'

No we are not stuck. We can pull out anytime we want to.

QUOTE:

'Rockefeller accurately assesses the Bush debacle in Iraq for what it is.'

The 'Bush' debacle? In case you forgot CONGRESS had a vote and approved the military operation in Iraq. There are 21 other countries besides the United States with 16,000 combat troops in Iraq and Afghanistan. It's not just 'Bush's war'. By the way Congress is responsible for funding wars. Congress could have a vote tomorrow to end funding for the war and the war would be over.
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by acolon77 September 10, 2006 1:01 PM EDT
SECURITY:
This is exactly where the American people have failed...because we let the Bush regime play us on it. Like the bully who says "if you give me all your money and beat up on little girls, i'll protect you and be your friend."
This biggest fear of Anglo-Saxon America ( which is not about race but about culture) which Karl Rove has been playing on...using and recreating historic events such as Pearl Harbor to bring nostalgic support to an unjust war that uses and tosses away the lives of our soldiers and the money of hard working Americans. And this is exactly what they said they'd do in PNAC!
And now this fear has carried over to immigration and our border SECURITY ...a smoke screen to the REAL problem. There are no terrorists here in America. Its more likely you'll be killed by an American then any kind of terrorist attack. So where again is this 'War on Terror'?

The absolute truth is those who voted for Bush in knew it, but chose to neglect it anyways. They turned a blind eye to this administration's past (Rockefeller is one of them)in order to make sure there was conservation of power to this Anglo-Saxon America. Now every American is paying for it, including Rockefeller which is the only reason he has chosen to speak out against this regime now.
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by chubvonshuva September 10, 2006 12:31 PM EDT
i have said from the beginning that this conflict in Iraq was a lie started by this group of neocons from the project for the new American century and most of that gang is in the bush administration our troops are over there in iraq getting killed and maimed for nothing talking about the war on terror we have not won the war on drugs the only thing to do is bring our troops home also this conflict is costing this great nation of ours billions and billions of dollars every day and the bush cheny partners are making tons of our tax dollars that really what this conflict is all about
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by frostygolf1 September 10, 2006 12:29 PM EDT
If anyone still believes that the "Bushies" didn't mislead us, they are delusional. All you need do is revisit their own words prior to the illegal invasion. Fortunately, the admin can't recall all the speeches that were made in the runup, they can't "classify" them in the name of "national security".
The GOP is the "in" party...incompetent and incapable. They can do nothing except reduce taxes on the most priveleged among us and endanger the rest of us. So what is their answer now? More of the same, stay the course, with us or agin us...slogans are us!! Unfortunately for the people of this republic, solutions lie not in slogans, but in real, and capable governance.
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