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by grumpy1963 September 8, 2006 5:35 AM EDT
<b>wilkeske at 11:59 PM : Sep 06, 2006 says:</b> ... Due in part to Bush's policy in Iraq, our list of allies grows thin and the number of nations who wish us harm has increased. ...

This is a blatant, <i>bold-faced</i> lie. Name one nation of which was an ally <u>prior</u> to the launching of Operation Iraqi Freedom that is <i>not</i> still an ally today. You can't. Further, the nations who wish us harm has increased? Opposed to when? Which nations wish us harm today, that <i>didn't</i> wish us harm prior to the launching of Operation Iraqi Freedom? Name them. I'm frankly tired of these outlandish fabricated claims. You people come in here and just simply pick things out of <i><b>thin air</b></i> that are just plain and simply not true and try to pass it off as gospel. And then, you even have the arrogant gall to turn right around and criticize and lambaste the President of the United States.
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by grumpy1963 September 8, 2006 2:47 AM EDT
<b>pj_ter at 11:31 PM : Sep 07, 2006 posts:</b>

Quote:
"Iraq is part of the Middle East. The Middle East ,as a region,has been waging a terror war against the United States since 1979 which gives the United States the right to wage war against the Middle East."

Since it was brought up - The article makes no mention of the fact that in the 80's, during Reagan's administration, we gave billions in weapons and training to fundamentalist groups in the Middle East INCLUDING Osama Bin Laden so they could fight the Soviets during the Cold War.
Guess the dog bit the hand that fed it.

<b>Now, if only we had a crystal ball which told us who would be on our side one minute, and then, turn around and stab us in the back the next, we'd be set...huh? I've had many folks who've I've been acquainted with who've turned around and stabbed me in the back. And, if I had the luxury of clairvoyance, I'd have never been acquainted with them to begin with.</b>
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by pj_ter September 8, 2006 2:31 AM EDT
Quote:
"Iraq is part of the Middle East. The Middle East ,as a region,has been waging a terror war against the United States since 1979 which gives the United States the right to wage war against the Middle East."

Since it was brought up - The article makes no mention of the fact that in the 80's, during Reagan's administration, we gave billions in weapons and training to fundamentalist groups in the Middle East INCLUDING Osama Bin Laden so they could fight the Soviets during the Cold War.
Guess the dog bit the hand that fed it.
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by grumpy1963 September 8, 2006 12:33 AM EDT
Let's talk about this mantra that America's actions are creating animosity and anger in the Middle East.

Well now, gee, does anyone stop and think about the animosity and anger the Middle East's behavior may have created amongst the American people? Why is it okay for those in the Middle East and, some even imply they're justified in their behavior, to harbor animosity and anger and exact revenge upon the U.S. -- however, the U.S. isn't supposed to harbor such similar emotions toward the Middle East for their behavior over the last approximate 40 years, including September 11, 2001? Why is the U.S. expected to just simply take a lackadaisical approach and take in all in stride when its subjected to violence perpetrated by peoples of the Middle East...but, it's accepted as okay and, even justified, for those in the Middle East do to harbor animosity and anger and exact their revenge upon the U.S.?
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by grumpy1963 September 7, 2006 8:43 AM EDT
Well, it has been real, it has been fun...however, it hasn't been <i>real fun</i>. So long lefty suckers...and, have fun. Make sure you keep the <i>aluminum-foil</i> hats handy and keep an eye to the sky, in order to assure yourself the sky isn't falling.
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by grumpy1963 September 7, 2006 8:39 AM EDT
<b>alphaa10 at 02:33 AM : Sep 07, 2006 says:</b> And speaking of slow learners, you assure us you won't place your confidence in anybody but Bush. This reminds me of people who still can't believe the Enron stock they bought from that nice man, Ken Lay, is completely worthless. Try something different, Grumpy, take stock in America, not the neocons who sold you a bill of goods, and want you to keepf on buying into their worthless IPO (idiotic public offering).

No...ya' see? When I take stock in those so-called "neocons"? I <i>am</i> taking stock in America. I would be committing a treasonous act if I abandoned so-called "neocons" and cast my vote for an infernal weak-kneed lackadaisical lefty.
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by grumpy1963 September 7, 2006 8:38 AM EDT
<b>alphaa10 at 02:33 AM : Sep 07, 2006 says:</b> In contrast, you yourself desperately seek refuge from the point that a right-winger-- neocon George Bush-- put America much further into jeopardy. You are dragged screaming to the realization 911 happened on Bush's watch. Ignoring many, many warnings about al Qaeda,..."

First, keep your "neocon" cliche and put it in your <i>"neocon"-cliche-luggage</i> and save it for when you might travel to France or some other similar destination thereof. Second, clearly, you simply throw this cliche around in an attempt to insult and criticize, without knowing nothing with respect to what it means. I find it unlikely President George W. Bush has ever been...and, I <u>know</u> I have never been, a liberal who now espouses to conservative ideals and principles. If Jane Fonda were to suddenly become a conservative tomorrow? Then, your ridiculous "neocon" spiel might work. Third, it might do you well to remember that, in fact, the planning and orchestration for 9/11 happened on Clinton's watch...right underneath his nose. And, fourthly and lastly? Obviously, you are incapable of multitasking...working and playing at the same time. And, simply because <i>you're</i> incapable of such a complicated task? This doesn't necessarily mean President George W. Bush is.
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by grumpy1963 September 7, 2006 8:36 AM EDT
<b>alphaa10 at 02:33 AM : Sep 07, 2006 says:</b> Grumpy-- Your caricature of the American public isn't true to the facts-- most Americans think Iraq is a failure. And despite your disingenuous suggestion, no one expects to be safe. However, Americans do see through Bush and are tired of his incompetence, deceit and lame excuses.

Keep your polls and save them for impressionable young ones who might fall for it and who are incapable of grasping the grander scheme of things. Polling approximately 900 people and coming up with some result that's allegedly supposed to represent the thoughts and wishes of a nation that consists of more than <b>200 MILLION</b> <i>voting-aged</i> people, simply doesn't impress, nor concern me.
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by grumpy1963 September 7, 2006 8:30 AM EDT
<b>alphaa10 at 01:50 AM : Sep 07, 2006 says:</b> This relatively simple act is something that escapes most who side with Bush on his un-American approach to prisoners (see my post later in this thread)-- not to mention the fraudulent, failure-ridden policy debacle known as Iraq.

And, what approach to enemy prisoners would you be in favor of? Some boxes of cookies and group hugs?

<b>alphaa10 at 01:50 AM : Sep 07, 2006 says:</b> When you finally understand that hitting your head with a hammer doesn't work, I can assure you your first act is to cease that behavior. It clears the mind wonderfully, as other Republicans opposed to Bush on torture-- and Iraq-- can attest.

Too bad you simply haven't got the luxury of written history to solidify any claim we're merely hitting ourselves in a head with a hammer...eh? One may have been able to imply we were merely hitting ourselves in the head with a hammer on countless occasions during WWII...also.
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by grumpy1963 September 7, 2006 8:30 AM EDT
revgrljoan said-- "Typical liberal navel-gazing.... Whiny, silver-spoon, dingbat. As usual: All carping, but not a solution in sight.

<b>alphaa10 at 01:50 AM : Sep 07, 2006 says:</b> Careful with the whining, carping sneers, yourself-- it smears your combat lipstick gloss, and offers no solution, itself.

Ahhh...I can see alphaa fancies his/herself as the resident elite intellectual arrogant snob. How fun.

<b>alphaa10 at 01:50 AM : Sep 07, 2006 says:</b> Not a "solution" in sight, you say? Actually, the first part of any solution is to cease the brain-dead behavior that caused the problem.

What "brain-dead behavior" is that? And, specifically, which "problem" is it you're referring to? You <i>did</i> know terrorism and terrorists were in existence <i>long</i> before President George W. Bush and Operation Iraqi Freedom came along...didn't you?
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