Comments on: Gun Sales: Will The "Loophole" Close?

60 Minutes: Fear Of Tighter Gun Control May Be Contributing To Big Rise In Gun Sales

[agsforever]

as stated previously susie, you don't even know what an assault rifle is. so shut up until you do.

[agsforever]

erasmus. you live in fear. it controls your life. yet you won't admit it. you are afraid to stand up and be counted. I don't live in fear in the US because I have the right to own and carry a firearm. if some nut wants to take away that right, they may rue the consequences. because of my freedom to own a firearm, I am the equal of any man or woman I meet. I need not bow or scrape to anyone. and I refuse to.

[agsforever]

eras. why do you fear guns in the hands of law abiding citizens so much. or is it that you hate them? and the concept of having the freedom to own a firearm? Many criminals, who have decided to break laws already, may break into houses and stel them. but they better not try it with the armed gun owner at home. they will be toted out feet first. end of argument.

I have the feeling that gunownerdan was saying that if you believe that criminals will obey laws that he has some oceanfront property in Arizona he will sell you. or a bridge in brooklyn. gullible aren't you?

you say that guns shouldn't have been allowed to begin with. we wouldn't have the problems we have now. no. they'd be worse. no right of free speech. no right not to testify against oneself in a criminal proceeding, cruel and excesive punishments for minor crimes. people locked up and sent to penal colonies like australia and canada for being in debt and not paying debts. british troops (or German/Japanese) being quartered in private citizens' homes at citizens' expense. no free press. no right to worship as one pleases. no rights at all. none. and anyone who disagrees with the powers that be is rounded up and exterminated. without trial, along with their children, grandchildren, cousins, brothers, sisters and other relative, especially if they bump into one of the ruling class or even say a cross word to them. if you want that for your country keep it. I want my freedom. and I will fight to maintain it. as patrick henry once said "Give me LIberty or give me Death!"

[agsforever]

you don't come back and read posts very often. lose interest quickly don't you suzie.

[agsforever]

suzieq, you are another convenient shill for the liberal anti-gun crowd. there is no loophole. it is illegal for a convicted felon or mentally-ill person to attempt to buy a gun from a licensed dealer. most private gun sales are between individuals who know each other and trust each other. but if the person buying the gun uses it to commit a crime two days, a week or twenty years down the road, it's not the sellers fault. ever. despite lawyers (liars) who want to make it so. and again, you call the firearms at the gun show assault weapons. they are not. they are semiautomatic weapons capable of firing only one shot at a time. they are self loaders and put a new cartridge in the firing chamber ready for the next function of the trigger. they are NOT, REPEAT NOT, asault weapons. and why shouldn't people be able to buy ammunition if they can buy the firearms legally?

[agsforever]

erasmus, mkm,etc. personal attacks on the character and intelligence of those with whom you disagree just show the weakness of your arguments. and your snobbish undeserved so-called moral superiority. I don't know of anyone, anywhere, gun owner or not, who condones mass murders. except the neonazi liberals like yourself who relish such accounts. and use massive exaggeration and outright lies about the news reports of such incidents to justify your very weak arguments against the right to keep and bear arms. in fact those are your sole arguments, outright lies and prevarications. and calling those with whom you disagree whackos and idiots.

[agsforever]

you are absolutely a hopeless boneless dupe hofkurz. you don't think 18 year olds are mature enough to handle firearms? what about the millions of 15, 16, 17 and 18 year olds who fought for, and died for this country in the Revolutionary War, the War of 1812, The Mexican War, the Civil War, the Spanish-American War, World Wars I and II, Korea, Viet Nam and Gulf Wars I and II? students over the age of 21 who have obtained a government permit (that is unconstitutional on the face of it) to exercise their constitutional right of carrying a firearm should be carrying, not prohibited from carrying, as they are at Va. Tech and some other college campuses, neither are those professors and other employees of the universities who have obtained such permits. If they had been allowed to carry, instead of unconstitutionally being barred from carrying from some misguided effort, Mr. CHo may have still been able to kill one or two people, but not many more.

Mr. Obama, ms. pelosi, mr. reid, Mr. holder and many others in the obama administration and house and senate have repeatedly said, in public and in print that, if they thought they had the votes they would pass laws that would allow us armed forces personnel and police to knock down doors and confiscate all privately-owned firearms in America. Thank god they think they don't have the votes. And 100 million plus gun owners will be watching to see if they try, anyway. that's the reaason for the 2nd amendment.

you are a convenient shill for the anti-gunners, hofk. calling for a huge tax on ammunition. are you even capable of thinking for yourself?

[agsforever]

ignorance, ignorance, ignorance. country with one of lowest, if not the lowest murder rate with firearms is Switzerland. Israel is close second (as far as street-crime type murders are concerned, unless you consider terrorist attacks street-crime type murders). In Switzerland, every adult over 18 joins the swiss army. they serve two years, then, on their completion of two years service, are issued a fully-automatic rifle and ammunition for it. until they turn 42 they are required to prove they still know how to fire and maintain the firearm every 3 months. many still keep their weapons until the day they die. almost no crime in Switzerland. Same in Israel, again unless you consider the terrorist attacks against israeli citizens that are orchestrated and funded by countries such as Iran and Iraq and Libya as street crime, there is very little such crime in Israel. all israelis are members of the Israeli Defense force and all carry fully automatic weapons with them just about everywhere they go. even to synagogue. they've learned they can't afford not to.

what huge guns are you talking about newswatcher? most of these weapons fire bullets that are less than one-fourth inch in diameter. some slightly greater. obviously you've never tried to buy a gun. it aint that easy. even if you are reclaiming your firearm that you pawned at a pawnshop for some eating money or to pay a bill, you still have to submit to an unconstitutional invasion of privacy to get the gun, that belongs to you, back. you admit you hate guns. well millions of us don't. and we have a constitutional right to own them and have them in our possession. until that right is rescinded in the constitutional manner it will still be a constitutional right. and that right never has depended on the US constitution for its existence. it existed before the constitution was adopted and ratified. and it will exist long after that document is dust (may it never be!!!).

[agsforever]

what about the 82 branch davidians tear gassed and burned to death by U.S. Government forces in 1993? what about the 80 or so latin american (Puerto Rican) citizens torched in a night club in new york city by a guy with matches and a five-gallon can of gasoline. and, unfortunately, what about the 180 or so who were killed in Oklahoma City by Timothy McVeigh using several hundred pounds of ammonium nitrate? Mr. McVeigh was enraged that no heads rolled when the Branch Davidians were killed, illegally, by government forces? What about the 3000 or so people who were killed, illegally, by islamofascist terrorists, using what was it, two loaded Boeing 777s, in the attack on the World Trade Center in 2001 (9/11)? how many women did Richard Speck kill in chicago in the 1960s (wasn't it about 25 or 30). Even ate some of them. he never used a gun.

[agsforever]

just as 60 minutes aired a show in which an alleged gunsmith converted a semiautomatic AR-15 illegally into a fully-automatic weapon. this was aired over national airwaves during the anti-gun clinton administration no member of CBS news was ever prosecuted for this felony offense. oh well, if clinton can lie under oath and get away with it because "everyone does it" whose going to prosecute CBS for breaking the law?

[agsforever]

i would have asked the character called Omar for his ID. and asked him for whom he worked. would not have been a bit surprised to learn he was hired by CBS news for the 60 minutes program and by ABC for the 20-20 program. they have done it before.

and, greener, no record of many M-1 Garands being used in crimes.

[agsforever]

amen blogger. George Soros and Bill Gates of Microsoft supplied almost 95% of the funding for obama's run for the presidency. Soros' motivation. his hatred of america. his hatred of our right to own firearms. he is the chief sponsor in the UN of the drive to outlaw private ownership of firearms worldwide. opening the way formore adolph hitlers, josef stalins, Mao Zedongs, pol pots and other despots.

[agsforever]

add to that neuternut, 26. All gun control laws originally enacted to keep blacks from exercising their new rights. All gun control laws inherently racist. 27. ONly the liberal elite, who want everyone else to be their slaves, really love gun control. after all the peasants might try to regain their rights.

[agsforever]

gun control laws, and those who wish to enact them, are inherently racist. they think that, because they are morally superior to Jews, blacks, homosexuals, mexicans, italians, irish, or all other ethnic groups, they have the right to dictate to the rest of us what we can or cannot do. gun crime in this country is high, because criminals in the US are not put in prison, kept in prison, or executed like they are in other countries. since NRA led legislatures have introduced minimum sentencing requirements for most gun related crimes, those who are prone to commit them are kept of the streets for increased periods of time. and crime has gone down (FBI crime statistics over last 15 years). also because more gun owners are carrying concealed, crime has gone down in those areas. where stricter gun control laws have been enacted, gun-related crimes have gone up.

eras. we are a nation of slightly over 300 million, now. how many in your little country? what 25 million. 35 million? as percentage or #s per 100,000 or 1,000,000 inhabitants, what is your crime rate? what is US. yours is probably the same or greater.

[agsforever]

just as erasmus's will believe anything that a lying news person says, no matter what the truth is, because that's what they prefer to believe. because they live in some ivory tower world where everybody loves everybody.

[agsforever]

how do you know, kirkman. the fact is that armed citizens in the U.S. have stopped more than 2.5 million crimes every year, often without a shot being fired. Cops only show up after the crime has been committed. citizens are there all the time. if they are armed, and known to be armed, a criminal is far less likely to commit a crime. it is a fact that civilians in defending their lives and property, have stopped criminals far more effectively than police forces who come upon a crime in progress. fewer shots fired, fewer bystanders injured, more dead felons.

[agsforever]

maybe in your dreamworld erasmus. even in great britain, armed intruders are breaking into (unarmed) homeowners' homes at all times of day. if the homeowners resist. the homeowners are arrrested, prosecuted and sent to jail. if they injure or kill the intruder, heaven help them. since GB doesn't have death penalty, they go to jail for the rest of their life, just because some ivory towered legislator decided they don't have the right to defend their home. in your country, an increasing number of criminals do have guns. where they can't get them, they use other means. and they are becoming increasingly more violent. fact of life.

maybe in some la-la land it is rare for a burglar to break into a home when someone is there. not that rare. it does happen. and, if it does, that criminal is there to do someone (usually a woman) harm. ever hear of rape? and they don't have to have a gun. if they know the female homeowner or resident doesn't have one. knives, bats, bare hands, etc used to kill, maim and torture long before firearms invented.

the things you talk about in your benighted world don't apply in the USA. thank God. we are still citizens of USA. not subjects of british crown. we kicked the undesirables out in 1783. don't want them back, except as customers.

you state if you (U.S.) didn't have guns, our criminals wouldn't be getting them either. want to bet? criminals, everywhere will always have access to guns, even if citizens (or serfs) don't.

[agsforever]

claydowner. this would be a lot safer country if everyone carried openly. in the period from 1850 to 1890, in all the territories and states west of the Mississippi River, there were fewer than 4000 recorded altercations between individuals involving firearms, according to many historians. this figure of course, does not include the wartime activities in the war between the states and the indian skirmishes throughout the west. that's in forty years, an average of less than 100 per year. New York City adopted its Sullivan Act, which essentially bans the private possession of firearms (except for a favored few) in 1895 or so. IN just about every year since, NYC has had more than 3000 shootings each year. not to mention Washington, DC and Chicago, which have also banned handguns. both average more than 1000 shootings ever year. Betweeen 1850 and 1890 in most of the territories and states west of the Mississippi, everyone (or just about everyone) carried openly, as a part of their daily lives. so, it seems that that armed society was much safer than those societies where some know-it-all, do-gooding politician wants to ban guns. Guess what, law aabiding citizens, whether armed or not, generally obey the law. criminals, who don't care diddly about breaking any law, routinely break laws.

You lie when you blame the NRA for the carnage in inner cities. When you blame NRA and its members for the thousands of people they slaughter each year. those people are not killed by members of the NRA. they are killed by criminals who routinely break laws. and the addition of hundreds more gun laws will only increase the carnage. no one will have the weapons with which they can defend themselves.

Do you really believe that the entire world has gone beyond the level where everything is about killing, violence and the threat of violence? where have you been hiding for the last 40 years. this is a violent world. it is getting more violent all the time. with islamofascist jihadist calling for the death of all infidels world wide so they can turn the world back into the 5th century AD. with people on mood-altering drugs like prozac being free to kill fifteen to thirty people at a time because someone made them mad, and the drug only worsened the effect? and because some ivory tower know it all said that people don't have a right to defend themselves against such? I ask you to show me, with irrefutable, concrete evidence, that NRA has ever "colluded" with the firearms industry to cause, and I repeat cause any crime, anywhere. THe NRA has always advocated strict punishment for those who commit violent crime. has always advocated keeping violent criminals behind bars, or putting them six feet underground, permanently.

Like other anti-gunners, you blame america for all worlds ills. and our "lax" according to you gun laws. the fully-automatic weapons, grenades and other military weapons used by the drug cartel in Mexico were not bought in gun shows, or gun shops in US. they were stolen from Mexican Army, or Mexican State POlice armories, or given to the cartel by deserters, or were bought from gun runners from many places around the world, including colombia, ecuador and elsewhere. many of these firearms may have been made in US, yes. and sold to south american governments. who did not control them. but they were sold to those governments by clinton, etal. not by law-abiding gun owners.

from what i've heard, if you cross the mexican border into mexico from us at a checkpoint and are found with even one expended (fired) cartridge, you may spend what remains of your life in a Mexican jail, unless you can bribe your way out of prison. This is even if you have a mexican issued hunting license describing the weapons you want to use in your hunting trip. and americans are selling guns to the drug cartel in mexico? I've got a bridge I'll sell you if you believe that.

[agsforever]

claydowner. what is a common sense gun control law? what is a moderate gun control law? if you can ban one gun or one type of gun, you can ban any and all guns. what we need to do is get rid of the liberals, like yourself, who hate this country and what it stands for. George Bush/Dick Cheney? despite your claim to have been in service I doubt it. most military fully agreed with Bush/Cheney. you have right of free speech, now, while we have second amendment. what happens to your right of free speech (which is already limited to some extent) when second amendment is legislated out of existence, or declared invalid under an incredible usurpation of power by the judiciary, or even repealed according to the Constitution? it will go the way of the dodo bird and the passenger pigeon. you won't have it. and, BTW I am a college graduate. and a proud member of the National Rifle Association, Texas State Rifle Association, Second Amendment Foundation and North American Hunting Club, and supporter of the Citizens Committee For the Right To Keep and Bear Arms, Gun OWners of America and Jews for PReservation Firearms Ownership in America.

obama has already proven himself to be the most incompetent, lying president in nation's history. has increased federal deficit from a (barely) manageable 400-450 billion dollars to over 1.8 trillion dollars just since 1/20/2009. and we're in better shape than ever. (Highest unemployment since days of jimmy carter). you state canadians do a lot of things correctly. what? many canadians come into us for us health care.

[agsforever]

carenp, are you afraid of your own shadow? are you not willing to stand up and defend yourself? Why do you accept the claptrap that ms stahal and the gun ban crowd feed you. the weapons in the gun show on 60 minutes were not assault rifles. that is a lie. even if leslie stahl called them one. assault rifles are fully-automatic capable firearms. these weapons fire only one shot at a time and then reload themselves. no different from many common hunting rifles used in US and even canada. they are legal to use for hunting, if they are equipped with a 5-round or smaller clip. they really aren't as powerful as some common bolt-action and semiautomatic hunting rifles, despite the outright lies perpetrated by Leslie Stahl and CBS news. In US it is illegal for a 20=year old to own a handgun. A 21-year old can legally buy one, if not a convicted felon. Why shouldn't a 21-year old student, or a 30-45 year old professor be able to carry the means with which he or she can defend themselves in a situation such as VA Tech? state laws prohibited law-abiding citizens (only) from having the means to defend themselves on VA TeCH campus. (sticky keyboard). criminals don't obey laws. why should they be the only ones who carry firearms?