Comments on: Reservists' Rocky Return To Job Market

60 Minutes Report Also Examines Costs Borne By Employers Of Deployed Citizen Soldiers

[sleepyric]

God bless all the brave men and women in uniform. Thrown into the meat grinder by a coward president and his war based on lies. I hope and pray that when they ALL do come home, that they find the peace and prosperity that they deserve. 77 days until the b@stard dictator is history and all his evil flunkies are gone too.

[grouchyjohn]

that says their employers have to take them back at the same pay."

Not when the employee is gone for FOUR YEARS! cant hold a job open forever.


"got back to her regular job in 2006 after a two-year deployment, she was told her job was gone since she had been away too long."

2 years is too long, they really expect a job to still be there after that long a time? There''''s massive layoffs nation-wide we are IN a recession, jobs are being eliminated, chances are their jobs are GONE to begin with.

Posted by newster1 at 09:03 AM : Nov 03, 2008





If an employee comes to work and tells the company that they are being deployed, then they have time to hire a replacement. When that original employee returns from service, then the law says they should get their job back - then they SHOULD get it back. Even if it means that the replacement employee gets fired or laid off.

The original employee SHOULD NOT be penalized for fulfilling a patriotic obligation. Especially when the law clearly is on their side.

[louiville2]

2 years is too long, they really expect a job to still be there after that long a time? There''''s massive layoffs nation-wide we are IN a recession, jobs are being eliminated, chances are their jobs are GONE to begin with.


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Posted by newster1

Jobs still there, I think they should just throw your azz to the curb. Mooch of those who make your life posible. FYI that IS perfectly leagal to make way for returning GI''s.

[nothappyatall]

that says their employers have to take them back at the same pay."

Not when the employee is gone for FOUR YEARS! cant hold a job open forever.


"got back to her regular job in 2006 after a two-year deployment, she was told her job was gone since she had been away too long."

2 years is too long, they really expect a job to still be there after that long a time? There''s massive layoffs nation-wide we are IN a recession, jobs are being eliminated, chances are their jobs are GONE to begin with.

[helloall34]

I was in the reserve (Marine Corp) at a time when being a reservist was really a part-time job (as it was intended). The reserve is now simply a back-door draft. The reservists don''t have the right to complain because the contract is clear that the government pretty-much owns them. The private sector can''t speak-up for fear of being labeled unpatriotic.

Honestly, reservists should rarely get deployed overseas. They should only fill in within the states (so they can be quickly easily rotated). They are now the majority of the fighting force. Our military is worn paper thin. It is another of the many blunders of the administrations of the last 20 years or so which are now blowing up in our faces.

[vet_sk]

And its not just private sector, I work for the feds as an analyst and I am also with the Army Guard. Mobilizations/Deployments put you away from home (what''s left of it) for almost 16 months. That''s a long time to be gone. You job has been taking over by others and you have to nicely wrestle it back. It took almost two years to do that and now we''re getting ready to go again. And all for a bogus war. And you ''gentlemen'' of the rightwing might disagree but the left was right we''ren''t we. There were no WMDs. Scott Ritter and Hans Blix told us that before the war started but then again, why trust the people who actually did the investigations. Huh. And I don''t want to hear that bull about, Well that''s the past; now we need to look toward the future. Of course we do but we also need to insure such wars do not happen again.

Tomorrow we will have the opportunity to vote for a once in a lifetime candidate, Barack Obama. Get out and vote people.

[rmcfg]

The TRUTH is finally coming to light here in the Digital Age! Guard and Reserve troops have faced discrimination in the private sector job markets for decades because some employers did NOT want to see them go away for two weeks of summer duty; not unless they were willing to use their vacation time in doing so. Because while they were away, it would mean more added work for those who were still at the job site. End result ... large numbers of Guard & Reserve personnel being under-employed or unemployed with no private sector companies willing to hire them!

[gregshaw68]

I hear the problem the vets are having coming home from Iraq. They are nothing compared to how draftees were treated after Vietnam.

I just completed a year as a contractor in Iraq. None of the military were concerned with their wives and children having enough to eat. During Vietnam my wife and son were given $130/month to live on. There was no housing for draftee families. My wife and son lived in the lowest rent available, which was a $100/month studio apartment in the worst neighborhood. This left them $30 for food, utilities and everything else. Welfare paid better but because I was drafted they could not get on welfare.

When I returned home my old employer refused to rehire me and I was told by the Government there was nothing anyone could do for me. When I looked for jobs I was called a baby killer by the people interviewing me.

Life is better now.

[andrew_693]

invading iraq has nothing to do with our freedoms. As a matter of fact, our nation has open borders to the south, thousands come in every day and any terrorist could come in like nothing. The myth that the military is providing security was shattered in 9-11and they still cannot secure our nation as we can see how thousands of illegals come in unstopped. The only reason that the terrorists are not attacking us right now is because they don''t want to.

[riptide213]

US style freedoms are not free. First world, best nation world status comes with a price tag.

Your military patriots answer a nations call, no matter what political ethos is in vogue.

Auspiciously US citizens enjoy a right to debate or pick and choose issues they wish to fervently champion or give a miss. Military members do not have this luxury.

Citizens, companies, Federal, state, local governments must fund, support, legislate for no loophole formal protection, extraordinary and categorical gratitude for active duty military, reserve, guard, and ultimately veterans.

We are getting better as a nation, all political parties and most citizens are slowly realizing our All Volunteer Force is genuinely a unique profession entrusted with an arduous mission so citizens or businesses can pursue their American dream aspirations in home of the brave and land of the free.

Or.

Do away with Reserves and National Guard.

Terminate STOP LOSS, In Lieu of Taskings known as ILO, and 8 year Individual Ready Reserves commitments known as IRR. The unofficial, but legalized backdoor draft.

Mandate a must go military National Service for all males and females. Two years worth about right to provide baseline military training in preparation for a legitimate draft.

Activate a real front door must serve, no exceptions military draft for both male and females, so everyone can share collective responsibility for defending country against all enemies foreign and domestic.

[lewiston14]

"Then those suckers shouldn''''t have supported the continuation of a war based on Bush''''s lies."

Brian I have a question On this. When did we the regular people have a say to start or stop a war and how could that be done? If Bush wants to bomb Iran tomorrow there is nothing we the people can do about it either. Did not say it was right just the way it works. Lew :)

[brianbwb-2009]

"The private employers cannot supplement, cannot support the full cost of defending this nation on our balance books," says Dave Miller, vice president of Con-way freight, a national trucking firm."

Then those suckers shouldn''t have supported the continuation of a war based on Bush''s lies.

Now the bill is due, and those who enjoyed the cake don''t want to pay for it.

Typical neocons.

[mick7744]

Remember Pogo...the possum from the Okeefanokee Swamp?

He said, "I have met the enemy...and they is is us."

Inside of every joke is a little humor and a lot of truth.

In my case, the joker was an out-of-work politician named Richard Nixon who thought that his failing political career was more important than the lives of over 20,000 American fighting men who lost their lives AFTER Nixon, as a private citizen, derailed Lyndon Johnson''s peace initiative by encouraging the South Vietnamese to stall the peace talks, depriving Johnson and Hubert Humphrey of a diplomatic victory, extending the war for seven years

That treasonous scum should be dug up and publicly flogged for his cowardly self-interest, but hey...Bush/Cheney & Co are still available (and just as deserving)

VOTE McCAIN FOR MORE OF THE SAME!

[andrew_693]

the sad part will be when these veterans come home, a lot of them don''t have an education and they will have to compete for real jobs against civilians who are educated and recently graduated from college. Who do you think a bank will hire? a 24 years old kid with no problems in life yet who graduated from college yesterday or a veteran from the war with no degree who also has ptsd and could become violent or could be called back to his war job at any time and leave the company short handed? being a soldier is a 24 hour job.

[andrew_693]

when it matters, it''s all about money, the war and every war before was about money. Patriotism is just another form of hypocrisy, the so called patriots are the ones who believe what their government tells them even if they are lied to like in iraq. The civilian and society the all support the troops from the mouth out, the reality is, they will support the troops and the war as long as it doesn''t affect their profit. Welcome to the real world.

[old_bard]

it''s going to be hard to keep a good reserve after these two wars fought with the backdoor draft. sure, the reservist joined the reserve knowing that there was a possibility of being called up, but fighting two wars with reservists was not in the original plan. if we get in a big one we won''t have a real reserve to call up. in 5 years the regular army should have been built up to the point where we could have brought all of the reservists and n.g. units home. rotating reserve units in and out of an ongoing war should be illegal. the commander in chief and the pentagon have really abused the reserve system that was put in place after ww2. companies that ship jobs over seas or to mexico should be required to pay the reservists their old salaries in the town they were moved from, until they reach retirement age. maybe that would make companies less amxious to ship reservists jobs out of the country.

[diamondmask-2009]

One of the people they interviewed was a Conway manager.

I do NOT work for Conway, however, I work for a company that has hired many of Conway managers. That would be FedEx Freight.

From what I have seen, Conway managers don''t care a bit about their employees. Be they military or 19 year old dockworkers. The only thing that matters to them is production and money. If they could, they would terminate those serving in the military and hire nothing but part time workers to take their place. That way, they would save the top scale pay and any money paid for bennies.

Don''t be fooled by the cretin they showed on the show slapping his employee''s back. He COULD NOT care less about them and would just as soon see them homeless as fighting for our country.

They just don''t care. Nothing matters except the bottom line. If you''re a drag on them, they would rather cut you loose than do the right thing.

They are animals. They could stab you and calmly wipe the blood off the knife and go have lunch. They are amoral.

[h1611]

Why did you make no mention of a DOD organization called the ESGR. This is a resource for both employers and military members where they can not only get information as to their rights but als assistance when and if there is some disconnect between thier party.

[encinitasone]

Employers are discriminating against the military, how about this one, employers that only hire employee''s that have military spouses (or in the case of my wife i have benefits and i am non military but lots of military women go through thsi office and move on as their spouses get transferred) so they do not have to give medical benefits. My wife works for a female doctor in Encinitas that only hires employee''s after finding out if they already have medical benefits so discrimination goes both ways on this issue.

[encinitasone]

Employers are discriminating against the military, how about this one, employers that only hire employee''s that have military spouses (or in the case of my wife i have benefits and i am non military but lots of military women go through thsi office and move on as their spouses get transferred) so they do not have to give medical benefits. My wife works for a female doctor in Encinitas that only hires employee''s after finding out if they already have medical benefits so discrimination goes both ways on this issue.