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by hamiltongrad September 9, 2008 11:40 AM EDT
I am totally disgusted with this big mouth, who puts his book and personal profits first, over the security of his own country. Whey the Helllll is he talking about secret weapons ? Who needs to know this stuff during war time, esp. after the miliary told him not to ? What a disgrace.

As far as the current war situation. There were more people murdered in Chicago last month than all of IRAQ !
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by neoconrcrazy September 9, 2008 10:30 AM EDT
"Yeah," Woodward said. "If you were an al Qaeda leader or part of the insurgency in Iraq, or one of these renegade militias, and you knew about what they were able to do, you''d get your *** outta town."


if that were true, why haven''t we bagged Osama Bil Laden yet ???


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by neoconrcrazy September 9, 2008 8:47 AM EDT
I am voting for Senator Obama because I want my children and grandchildren to have a chance at a better future other than one filled with terrorism, warfare, and death.

Posted by claydowner

second you wholeheartedly - the continual spiral downwards does indeed have alot to do with "vested interests" as defined by a few corporations who supply our energy needs.

by allowing our national interests to be so defined we continue down a one-way street of conflict which will only get worse as the competition for these limited resources increases, i.e. china & india.

if we are the creative innovators and true inheritors of the American spirit of discovery, let''s us replace petroleum with another fuel or invent the successor of the internal combustion engine and free ourselves and the world from needless conflict and destruction.



it''s bey
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by Sashland September 9, 2008 6:32 AM EDT
Does Woodward have a security clearance to receive secret classified material? He has now disclosed a secret military program for capturing/killing our enemies. The disclosure that the program even exists is a violation. So fine of him not to mention the details: did he have government approval to even talk about it?

Similarly, the mention of alleged spying appears to be a violation. Who gave him this information? Some are prosecuted for passing on much less sensitive information (in private) while Woodward discloses national security secrets in public.
"Country First" for some; "Bob First" for him.

Any Grand Juries read the paper? Does the Military / State Department care that its personnel are giving extremely sensitive secret materials to reckless reporters?

Bob Woodward should be ashamed and shamed in polite company. One can only hope for indictment.
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by whatithink1 September 9, 2008 5:19 AM EDT
"Palin bills state for nights at home, kids%u2019 travel
Officials defend reimbursements, but trips with children raise questions"

"ANCHORAGE - Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin has billed taxpayers for 312 nights spent in her own home during her first 19 months in office, charging a "per diem" allowance intended to cover meals and incidental expenses while traveling on state business. "




Some of you people need to dig a little bit deeper into the background of this woman. Really.
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by claydowner September 9, 2008 5:04 AM EDT
The rightwingers are getting too much for me on this blog. Nearly 50,000 casualties and $3 trillion worth of damage has been done to our country. We are less safe today than we were before 9-11. I served on active duty for 20 years and saw action in the Persian Gulf war. Republicans are acting like total morons, cowards and brainwashed idiots when it comes to this war. You all ought to feel ashamed of yourself for the disgraceful damage this war has caused our country. You are all pathetic little puppets of Big Oil corporations who don''t care about you only their selfish quarterly profits made safely behind the lines in a war fought by other people''s children.

THE CYCLE OF KILLING AND DEATH WILL NEVER STOP UNTIL THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA STOPS IMPORTING OIL FROM THE MIDDLE EAST, AFRICA, AND OTHER UNSTABLE COUNTRIES LIKE VENEZUELA. AS LONG AS WE IMPORT OIL WE CAN FIGHT TRILLION DOLLAR WARS FOR A $100 PLUS BARREL OF OIL UNTIL WE WILL BE BANKRUPT LIKE THE BRITISH IN 1948.

If you are happy seeing the names of our young people on marble walls and veterans without limbs in wheelchairs by the thousands vote Republican. If you are happy with oil companies running our government and our foreign policy vote Republican. I am voting for Senator Obama because I want my children and grandchildren to have a chance at a better future other than one filled with terrorism, warfare, and death.
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by nilent September 9, 2008 3:02 AM EDT
The surge was/is a PR gimmick, a fraud a political ploy for domestic consumption.

Whatever decrease in violence occurred was caused by the fact that we got the hell out of their communities and left them alone to sort themselves out.....and we paid them many millions f dollars to do it. It was a peace we purchases.

The surge was not a military operation that required more troops; it was a political/economic tactic that makes the case for getting all of our troops out of Iraq ASAP!!!

A McCain presidency means war forever; there is an industry making hundreds of billions of dollars off this war and it has lots and lots of clout.

Our policies are being driven by war profiteering, not by what''s best for America''s people on any level.

McCain/Bush have betrayed us.
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by cukidoh September 9, 2008 2:43 AM EDT
Bush decided to fire Rumsfeld without Cheney''s knowledge or permission? Please! This is an administration that would "leak" info to the press, then use that same media to document that same "fact" in a news conference! Everyone knows George Bush has never had a complete thought in his life! Perhaps the only one was when he decided he''d better not take the drug test and dropped out of the Air National Guard (also known as AWOL, but I doubt it, I''m sure someone suggested to him it wasn''t a good idea. Bush decided to fire Rumsfeld?!--more like Cheney decided to fire Rumsfeld and manipulated Bush thru others to get him to do it.... My goodness, wasn''t it George Bush himself who said: ''Fool me once, shame on %u2014 shame on you. Fool me %u2014 you can''t get fooled again''
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by cukidoh September 9, 2008 2:41 AM EDT
Bush decided to fire Rumsfeld without Cheney''s knowledge or permission? Please! This is an administration that would "leak" info to the press, then use that same media to document that same "fact" in a news conference! Everyone knows George Bush has never had a complete thought in his life! Perhaps the only one was when he decided he''d better not take the drug test and dropped out of the Air National Guard (also known as AWOL, but I doubt it, I''m sure someone suggested to him it wasn''t a good idea. Bush decided to fire Rumsfeld?!--more like Cheney decided to fire Rumsfeld and manipulated Bush thru others to get him to do it.... My goodness, wasn''t it George Bush himself who said: ''Fool me once, shame on %u2014 shame on you. Fool me %u2014 you can''t get fooled again''
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by cukidoh September 9, 2008 2:41 AM EDT
Bush decided to fire Rumsfeld without Cheney''s knowledge or permission? Please! This is an administration that would "leak" info to the press, then use that same media to document that same "fact" in a news conference! Everyone knows George Bush has never had a complete thought in his life! Perhaps the only one was when he decided he''d better not take the drug test and dropped out of the Air National Guard (also known as AWOL, but I doubt it, I''m sure someone suggested to him it wasn''t a good idea. Bush decided to fire Rumsfeld?!--more like Cheney decided to fire Rumsfeld and manipulated Bush thru others to get him to do it.... My goodness, wasn''t it George Bush himself who said: ''Fool me once, shame on %u2014 shame on you. Fool me %u2014 you can''t get fooled again''
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by cukidoh September 9, 2008 2:39 AM EDT
Bush decided to fire Rumsfeld without Cheney''s knowledge or permission? Please! This is an administration that would "leak" info to the press, then use that same media to document that same "fact" in a news conference! Everyone knows George Bush has never had a complete thought in his life! Perhaps the only one was when he decided he''d better not take the drug test and dropped out of the Air National Guard (also known as AWOL, but I doubt it, I''m sure someone suggested to him it wasn''t a good idea. Bush decided to fire Rumsfeld?!--more like Cheney decided to fire Rumsfeld and manipulated Bush thru others to get him to do it.... My goodness, wasn''t it George Bush himself who said: ''Fool me once, shame on %u2014 shame on you. Fool me %u2014 you can''t get fooled again''
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by nigeltufnel8 September 9, 2008 1:05 AM EDT
So Bush''s unethical policies go even further than previously believed? Hardly a surprise.

This song probably spells it out about as well Bob Woodward''s book:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gY80_wXkkJA&fmt=6


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by nigeltufnel8 September 9, 2008 1:04 AM EDT
So Bush''s unethical policies go even further than previously believed? Hardly a surprise.

This song probably spells it out about as well Bob Woodward''s book:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gY80_wXkkJA&fmt=6


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by payasyougo September 8, 2008 11:56 PM EDT
"Woodward: Military Brass Opposed Surge"
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This article brought to you by CBSNEWS informing you that Obama was not alone in his dissent towards the surge. That should make it ok and we can move past this issue.
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by wogerwabbit September 8, 2008 11:50 PM EDT
I love neocons! Brainless, child-like innocents oblivious to the world around them. Selling their country out to endless war for profits as long as there''s someone else to fight and die for their stock portfolios. Just pat them on the head and throw them a bone and seconds later they''re humpin'' your leg like you''re their savior/w ***. If only we could only house break them and trainthem to stop sh**ting everywhere they go, we could might possibly find a use for them. Personally, I think we should kill them and eat them... I understand they taste like chicken. They certainly cluck like chickens... or is that chickenhawks?
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by apostasyusa September 8, 2008 9:46 PM EDT
How could McCain could say he was "honored and humbled" to have Bush"s endorsement?

Lets recap:

9/11 Terrorist attack..
The WORLD gets behind the USA to support whatever action, against those who caused this attack..

Bush declares WAR on the Taliban in Afghanistan..
Allies of the USA unite, and go into Afghanistan ready to kick some a**..

Bush declares WAR on Iraq..
The world allies question this decision, and are chastised by the Bush admin for doing so..

The world allies remove support in dismay at the decisions of the Americans to attack Iraq..
The US stands alone in Iraq...

Americans die in an unnecessary war in Iraq and the cause of the 9/11 terrorist attacks are lost in the minds of Americans........................

Can we say digress????? Just say it with me once....I found a whole new meaning......

Digressssss.......
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by Sashland September 8, 2008 9:33 PM EDT
Does Woodward have a security clearance to receive secret classified material? He has now disclosed a secret military program for capturing/killing our enemies. The disclosure that the program even exists is a violation. So fine of him not to mention the details: did he have government approval to even talk about it?

Similarly, the mention of alleged spying appears to be a violation. Who gave him this information? Some are prosecuted for passing on much less sensitive information (in private) while Woodward discloses national security secrets in public.
"Country First" for some; "Bob First" for him.

Any Grand Juries read the paper? Does the Military / State Department care that its personnel are giving extremely sensitive secret materials to reckless reporters?

Bob Woodward should be ashamed and shamed in polite company. One can only hope for indictment.
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by bobnjersey September 8, 2008 9:04 PM EDT
[Imagine, a democracy in the heart of the middle east. Good job.]
[Posted by jbalson58 at 05:53 PM : Sep 08, 2008]

freedom medals all around!

get a really good picture in your head ... it''s not likely to happen in your lifetime ... so the imagination is all you''ll have.

i''m imagining a harem of hot babes ... fanning me and feeding me grapes ... not a worry in the world. i can''t wait!
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by apostasyusa September 8, 2008 8:53 PM EDT
"the surge worked"
Is that the same as saying the military didn''t do the job for the first 4 years? That the first 120,000 soldiers weren''t enough? Oh maybe they were improperly deployed within Iraq?

The first "surge" was a huge policy blunder. It has yet to be said or seen what the actual effects of the second "surge" were in Iraq.

Are the Iraqi''s to be given any credit for what gains toward peace in Iraq?

No "surge" talking point is going make the war in Iraq anymore or less just.

Where does the buck stop Republicans?

Two of the main reasons the "surge" is working is 1: Al Sadr called off his militia hoping the US would leave after a change in the administration, and 2: we have bribed the various factions with billions in money and weapons. Right now the Iraqis want us out.

If McCain is elected and decides to stay in Iraq forever, we will see more violence in Iraq than ever before. Considering part of the "surge" was to arm hundreds of thousands of Iraqis, and when they turn those arms against us, will you neo-cons still run around parroting how successful it was?

Will you cry foul when the weapons that kill our soldiers were made in America like you do whenever they find ones made in Iran?
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by jbalson58 September 8, 2008 8:53 PM EDT

Well, if that''s the way it want down, then so be it. I don;t have any proof otherwise. So I''ll take it at face value. That said, I would have to applaud Bush for forcing the surge, firing Casey, and getting the job done. Beautiful work. Whatever it takes. Just win baby! Kill them all.

Imagine, a democracy in the heart of the middle east. Good job.


Jim





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