Comments on: Vicar: Dire Times For Iraq's Christians

Tells 60 Minutes Most Of Iraq's Christians Have Fled Or Been Killed

[sda09923]

jerriemc23:
no.. God does not ignore you, and neither do I. God hears your prayers. I don%u2019t know you, where you are, what I happening in your life. Please know that I, and many people around me who follow and love God, his Christ, Care about what happens to you. We are actively starting up and supporting orphanages, churches, medical facilities around the world. Yes even in Iraq, Africa, China, Pakistan, Ethiopia, Uganda, Brazil, Argentina, Somalia, yes even in the very city that attacked us as we brought in food and medicine to the starving people there. In the Philippians, in South and North and Korea we go, In Cuba, in Iran, in every corner of the planet, we Go because we are sent, to bring the love of God to those who are perishing. We Go.
I know how you feel. Some days, I am so discouraged that I feel that God no longer hears me. But rest assured that is only a feeling, it is not true. I know that it feels that way, I know.
But our God does no lie. He has promised, to those that have accepted him, to be with each of us forever. He will never leave you, nor will he forsake you. He will not.
Please know, and believe, that God feels what you feel, he knows what you are going through, and he loves you.

[acolton1]

I have a great IDEA lets send PAT ROBERTSON and the Entire 700 club over to IRAQ and be rid of this HATER and the entire 700 club orginization once and for all.

[acolton1]

There are Christians in IRAQ ? I would think that being a Christian in IRAQ or IRAN or any place in the Middle East would make you a TARGET.

stop dropping by my home and trying to sell me something i don''t want, i don''t need and cetaintly didn''t ask for

rlukas2:
tell that to your xian buddies in the white house. god ignores us. i don''t think he even cares about us

[sda09923]

As far as me not caring what happens to my brothers and sisters in faith, surly you are out of your mind if you think that. It is incomprehensible to me why anyone would say such a thing. I do not even know how to respond to such an outrageous, insane remark. I don%u2019t know what you are talking about. As far as what happened in the US after the attacks, no actions against muslims happened. Many people I work with and are friends with are muslim and nothing happened to them other than the fact that they felt horrible for what was done, some of them lost friends there as well. You have done nothing but commit mass murder which I will remind you is a sin that you will pay for. Rest assured for our God gives this assurance, your sins will find you.
Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.
Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked.
A man reaps what he sows.
rlukas USA

[sda09923]

Using the standards I mentioned about, I was not always a Christian, even though I sincerely thought that I was. I was not, I fell way way short. I can understand the desire to whip us, Christians, out. At one time I felt that about you. I felt that way because I did not know any better, like the apostle Paul before he met the living God, on the road to Damascus.. When I see this happening in Iraq, or in Africa, or anywhere else, I see someone acting out of ignorance to Gods character, motivations, and desire. I use to hate non-Christians, I use to hate you. I don%u2019t any more. I am giving all my efforts to try and teach God the people around me as an example, in my words, and in my actions. I even actually pray for you, even as you kill us. I have given everything for my God, I have placed ever part of me on his alter. I love God more that my own life. What I felt in the past is wrong, what you are doing now is wrong. I have some many things to tell you, more than I can put here. I wish that I could somehow sit with you and show you what I have found to be true and tell you what God has done in my life.
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[sda09923]

The Pope, some people have pointed to horrible things that the popes have done. Not all Popes were Christians by the definition I have stated above. I know that sounds crazy but I am afraid it is also true. So it would be a mistake to say that the orders given by the pope have always represented the Christian faith. They have not. I am sorry to offend but, they have not. I was raised Catholic%u2026 they have not..
Growing up I wanted to wipe all non Christians off the planet. That is horrible, but that is honestly how I felt, even though I do not want to admit that. But I am putting all my cards on the table. Right now, this very moment.

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[sda09923]

I have read all of this posting here. There are some misunderstandings about what a Christian is. Let%u2019s define that. It is not based on who your parents are, what your blood line is. It is based on one thing, the fact that you acknowledge who Jesus the Christ is, and what he has done, and why. Anyone that has not done that is not a Christian. I am sorry if you think that you are but, I%u2019m sorry. It has nothing to do with you being nice, or kind, or anything like that.
Hitler was not a Christian. I am not saying that because he was not nice, he was horrible. I am saying that because he did not believe in, certainly did not follow, Jesus, God%u2019s Christ. The Reich, Hitler, invented their own religion based on the blood of a non existent Arian super race that they were supposedly descended from. Actually he claimed that this new faith was based on an opera (Parsifal) by Vaguer. I know, that is crazy, but it is true. The Holcaust did happen, I am sorry, it happened. People in my family liberated those camps. The Reich, in addition to being ruthless and efficient, kept accurate records and made no attempt to deny their actions in Nuremburg, indeed they flaunted, without remorse, their actions during the trials.
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[jhermiz-2009]

I thought the program did an excellent and most admirable job in describing the difficulties of the ''Iraqi Christians". However, what the program failed to realize was that the "Iraq Christians" are actually the indigenous Assyrian Christians of that nation.

The Assyrian people have existed and thrived in Iraq/Mesopotamia for almost 7,000 years. Thus, it is important to point that out whenever describing their plight.

60 Minutes should definitely consider running the story a third time discussing the underlying bias against the Assyrian Christians because of the indigenous rights they so deserve and how the "Iraqi Christian" status only acts as a Dhimmi to suppress their influence in Iraq.

Some helpful links in researching the history of the Assyrian Christians of Iraq, I would recommend the following unbiased websites:

www.zindamagazine.com
www.aina.org

[jhermiz-2009]

I thought the program did an excellent and most admirable job in describing the difficulties of the ''Iraqi Christians". However, what the program failed to realize was that the "Iraq Christians" are actually the indigenous Assyrian Christians of that nation.

The Assyrian people have existed and thrived in Iraq/Mesopotamia for almost 7,000 years. Thus, it is important to point that out whenever describing their plight.

60 Minutes should definitely consider running the story a third time discussing the underlying bias against the Assyrian Christians because of the indigenous rights they so deserve and how the "Iraqi Christian" status only acts as a Dhimmi to suppress their influence in Iraq.

Some helpful links in researching the history of the Assyrian Christians of Iraq, I would recommend the following unbiased websites:

www.zindamagazine.com
www.aina.org

[rickym7]

Your article would be more accurate if an excerpt was made about Tariq Aziz''s plight & his future. " The former foreign minister, a Chaldean Christian, is often cited as proof of the favour that Christians enjoyed under Saddam. "Nothing could be more false", say some Chaldean Iraqi refugees in Italy.
http://www.catholic.org/international/international_story.php?id=27816
Thank you & God Bless

[rickym7]

Your article would be more accurate if an excerpt was made about Tariq Aziz''s plight & his future. " The former foreign minister, a Chaldean Christian, is often cited as proof of the favour that Christians enjoyed under Saddam. "Nothing could be more false", say some Chaldean Iraqi refugees in Italy.http://www.catholic.org/international/international_story.php?id=27816
Thank you & God Bless

[fixhist]

Not sure if the statement from a Christian leader in Iraq has any thing to do with growing heat on Christians of Iraq.
Mr. White had issued an statement about detained Iraqi Dr. Billal Abdullah. Dr.Abdullah is in a London-England jail for failed bombing charge at Glasgow-Scotland Airport.

Mr. White had issued statements regarding Dr.Abdullah early July last year,saying that, an Iraqi had shown willingness to die for getting revenge for death of his friends.
It doesn''t need to prove for Mr.White to be relevant to Dr. Abdullah,nevertheless his statements came in media very promptly & as a very reliable source.

Mr. whites statement may or may not form part of investigators submission to court of law, but such statements from christens in Iraq did make a political case to stay with "War on Terror" agenda.

NO! TB-Liar statements in NATO or House of commons,mentioning 45 Minute capability of sadam to deliver WMD to London didn''t have any thing to do with plight of Christians in Iraq.

[quo_vadis-2009]

Ah, mark19772 is clearly one who has embraced a religion of reason and peace...

[mark19772]

LexusMan3 , please read history first before you say things about other people faith, your kind of people is the reason for what is happening in Afganestan and Iraq or other place aroud the world, you and your kind who belive in what you call "jesus" are the reason for every problem human face in this world, wake up and smell the smoke, the smoke that created by you and jesus, the smoke that one day will burn you and your kind.

[quo_vadis-2009]

Regardless of how we felt about going in to Iraq, we are there now. It''s nauseating how many people who are shrieking about the violence & death supposedly being caused by American occupation (like they weren''t doing this to each other for hundreds of years prior to the existence of our country) - these same sensitive souls think nothing of withdrawing our troops so that Iraq can collapse into complete anarchy with even worse carnage.

But don''t worry - survival of the fittest ensures that the best butcher will float to the top & Iraq will again be stable under the thumb of a new & even better butcher in Baghdad. Then you can feel at peace, having helped the Iraqis find peace...

[quo_vadis-2009]

Iraq is not the only country suffering from overzealous & violently irrational bigotry.

Christianity is not guilty of massacres - people are guilty of massacres. Just because some use it as a pretense for their works does not mean that it actually supports what they do. Christianity teaches that war is evil & a consequence of sin. It does not appear that Islam can say the same - though I admit that I do not know enough about it to be certain.

I don''t agree with much of what Bush has done, but I don''t blame his religious beliefs & I don''t comfort myself by assassinating his character or intelligence
(which on his worst day are still head & shoulders above Kerry''s so, yes, we could have done even worse).

It is possible for a good person to make a tragic mistake - thinking they are doing the right thing because they have good reason. Goodness knows most of the posters here believe that it is fine to do the wrong thing if you have the right reasons.

To paint Saddam as some kind of victim here is totally, twistedly sick.

Yes, Christians were safer under Saddam''s reign. Kurds & others, however, were not. Saddam was still a butcher even if he *only* slaughtered other groups of people.

[armenchrist]

Saddam Hussein was put into power by George Bush Sr. this invasion of Iraq was a smokescreen to take out the weakest link in the Middle East and finally settle the fued between the Bushes and Hussein.
Remember Iraqis had NOTHING TO DO WITH 9/11 they were Morrocans and Saudis (you know the Bushes are buddies with the Prince of Saudi and his family?)
You people that have never been to the middle east don''t know the truth or how you are being lied to.

[armenchrist]

Saddam was kind to the Christians, and had no problem with any group that was hard working and didn''t try to overthrow the government. Saddam had more issues/stricter on his fellow Muslims. He didn''t trust them and hated the Tailban.
America''s greed over Oil and this occupation has caused the radical Moslems to throw out or kill anything associated with Westernization.
What happened to "we would be greeted as liberators?"
"Operation Freedom" "WMD" "Our presence will be swift and successfull"
5+ years later, $800 billion of our money, fraud w/ contractors making money off of our pentagon, smokescreen oil prices, 5,000 dead american soliders, 100,000 wounded, mentally scarred or blinded soliders not to mention the INNOCENT CIVILIANS of Iraq, widows, orphans over 160,000.
Do you expect anyone, especially the next generation of these people to have any respect, like or love for the USA? .
In 10 years you will find little or no Christians left in the middle east. The orphans will be lucky to be provided for by relatives or others. Under Islamic law, they do not believe in Adoption for $$. Armenian Christians can barely hold on to the Christian quarter of Jerusalem and protect the Christian relics.
To the commmentator below who claimed this was a liberal story, plot against Bush. This is a human story that is true. Quit blaming democrats or liberals. Who''s watch did this all happen under?
assume responsibility.