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by octavianfdlr February 25, 2008 4:38 PM EST
I know that it has been posted before, (about twice) but it deserves to be repeated:

A BAYER spokesman asked: If a neonicotinoid pesticide is killing the bees, why are traces of the pesticide not found in the hive?

The most obvious answer is that the poisoned bees are not returning to the hive, and therefore are not returning the poison to the hive.

Another possible answer might best be phrased as a question: have any analyses for neonicotinoids been performed on any affected hives? (Perhaps they have, but the article did not make this clear.)

The BAYER spokesman came very close (by his suspicious response) to admitting that neonicotinoids are a major cause of CCD.
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by octavianfdlr February 25, 2008 4:15 PM EST
On Feb 25, 2008 at 11:03 AM, the ever intolerant singinrick posted:

-Trust me you have nothing to feel sorry for when it comes to those of us who believe in God rather than Darwin.

But thanks for your insults, mr. intolerant.

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So now singinrick believes that Darwin never existed? They why does singinrick keep describing evolution as "Darwinism?"
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by sguelich February 25, 2008 4:08 PM EST
This situation is VERY disturbing. According to last night''s show the bee keeper lost more of the bees he had taken loans out to buy. Perhaps it''s time to say "enough of this!". Cut back pollination to only organic crops. Let''s face it, these pesticides are killing more than just bees.

Sandy G
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by octavianfdlr February 25, 2008 4:06 PM EST
On Feb 25, 2008 at 11:05 AM, singinrick asked:

Does Darwin offer death, or life?

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No, singinrick, Darwin does not offer death or life. Darwin is dead. Darwin is incapable of offering anything.
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by kofiananimus February 25, 2008 3:43 PM EST
"Bayer CropScience, a leading manufacturer of neonicotinoids, denies that the pesticide is responsible for colony collapse, and it cites studies which support that conclusion. Other studies by the French government, and protests by French beekeepers, caused the pesticide to be partially banned there in 1999."

AND THE RESULT OF THE BAN WAS... ???? CBS, do some follow-up, please! Did the bee population improve at all in France? What does "partial" ban mean???
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by pollengirl1 February 25, 2008 2:17 PM EST
There is a viable alternative to effective pollination, if there were little or no bees left. It''s called "controlled pollination". I have been doing this for 13 years. It''s an age old process refined. Collect the flowers, process them to extract the pollen, then re-introduce the pollen back into the orchards via blowers, or, as we are doing now, back into the hives where the bees deliver it. "Loading" the bees with fresh pollen insures a nut or fruit set, and can increase the acre yield by 22-30%! This is a story that needs to be covered. We have the answer, and the growers know this. Growers in central California are paying as high as $250 per hive. Controlled pollination is cost-effective, and is a natural alternative. This is especially true when the "bloom" is off on cross pollinators. Almonds, for example, need cross pollination. When the cross pollinator bloom is too early, little or no pollination takes place. We go in and provide the appropriate pollen to the hives and the bees deliver it, or we will apply it to the orchard with blowers. Focus needs to be on this emerging industry. This should be 60 Minutes next follow-up story...
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by godseyesore-2009 February 25, 2008 2:01 PM EST
What is really sad is that there are so many ignorant people who don''t have the faintest idea what the world is all about...like singinrick, who thinks "darwinism" is in anyway negative about life. The stupidity is astounding.
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by stapes59 February 25, 2008 1:34 PM EST
I''m wondering if anyone has done a comparison between these Bee colonies, and Bee''s which are organically raised or isolated. I buy organic honey, so this Bee population must exist. Organic Bees would not have any exposure to the "neonicotinoids" or any other pesticide/insecticides so this would be good potential control group. It would also be interesting to see if the organic Bees have the same ill health or stress factors described in the report.
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by lomartire143 February 25, 2008 1:31 PM EST
Perhaps i missed it but i don''t remember if there was talk of a worldwide collapse of the bee colonies. That in itself might help determine what''s happening here. I''m hoping agribusiness will finally understand bigger is not always better.
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by lomartire143 February 25, 2008 1:29 PM EST
Perhaps i missed it but i don''t remember if there was talk of a worldwide collapse of the bee colonies. That in itself might help determine what''s happening here. I''m hoping agribusiness will finally understand bigger is not always better.
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