Comments on: The Age Of Megafires

Expert: Warming Climate Fueling Megafires

[dez451]

Expert: Warming Climate Fuels Mega-Fires?
OK, but what starts them?
I would have expected a feature supporting global warming as the "cause" of the the worst fire season in history would have examined what started these fires...but I guess that has no relationship to the proposition that global warming is to blame.
But still, I thought that the necessities for fire (fuel, oxygen, and heat source) would require some thought to the third element.
But now I see the obvious...global warming causes spontaneous combustion. Of course.

[l8c6]

or time to open managed harvesting of the forests, reducing future fire potential?

Posted by sjflannery

I know the arrogance of man would say the earth is here for the taking but new species are discovered all the time. Are they here for the amusement of men now only?

I say the planet will get rid of the problem and will continue without. Species have been wiped before. Pray to Jesus or have another drink. It will be out of human control once this arrogant "modern" era runs into it''s inevitable wall.

[lochlan-2009]

"You can almost smell wealthy Boomers gearing up to flee the country for Tahiti once the full extent of this multi-generational betrayal gets exposed and people (esp. young people) start asking for some help in paying for it all (Iraq included)." - They have bailed out on America so bad it has deflated the dollar by over half, as they run with their stolen money to their foreign bank and safe house of choice. I think we''ve pretty much guaranteed an economic depression (fallout). Time to lie, cheat, and steal.

[sjflannery]

Expert: Warming Climate Fuels Mega-Fires
In enviornment economics is it better to continue the wholesale burning of the forests, spewing mega-tons of CO2, or time to open managed harvesting of the forests, reducing future fire potential?

[edward1975-2009]

There''s been near drought conditions out west for a while. With very little moisture and dried, dead plants, these things once they get going are next to impossible to put out. They create their own climate with winds reaching almost tornadic speeds. That''s why many of these things are left to burn themselves out. As far as global warming, anyone denying that it is occuring, is just not doing any research.

[l8c6]

Which private corporation is fighting these fires to protect these fine patriotic right winger''s multi-million dollar homes? Will each of these private homeowners get a personal bill from the private company for the service rendered? If not private then maybe a private firm can do it next time with subsidy from all citizens and accountability to the protection of special select communities.

[jimfinster]

You skeptics crack me up. Don''t you realize it is your ideology that makes you skeptical on this issue?? It has nothing to do with the facts at hand.

Speaking of facts, this same bunch will go to church and believe ANYTHING the preacher says. They will believe EVERYTHING they read in the bible, no matter how far fetched it is. They seem to save all their skepticism for the climate change debate.

Watch out neocons! The earth is flat! Better not leave your little podunk town, or you will fall off the edge of the earth! Don''t let those scientists tell you the earth is round, they are always wrong.

[ffischer2]

curse914 ... Yes, a bonus for you to be amongst the other wealthy in Ketchum where their political pull in this case helps the less fortunate! Too often it is also the wealthy part time residents who also don''t want their views "spoiled" by management activity that would enable the forest to absorb some fire with minimal impact and not result in catestrophic infernos! If they had to pay themselves, or risk loosing their only home, like yourself, they might be better proponents for sane forest management!

[ubrew12]

tiddsandbeer said: "MY SARCASTIC,BUT FACTUAL POSTS HAVE GONE UNANSWERED, AS USUAL."
Didn''t want to ignore you. You seemed to be quoting scripture: not my idea of ''factual''.

It''s prudent to take steps to address the spectre of Global Warming, in case its as bad as all those liberals say. With a global cap and trade in CO2, it could be as easy as hiring people in the tropics to plant tree farms for lumber, and buying farmers crop waste to sink beneath the oceans (all ways of sequestering CO2). But, with all this denial, we never even GET to the part about talking solutions. Its been that way for 30 years, and its getting tiresome (as well as a little LATE). To me the evidence just builds and builds. Warming is reacting on a decade long time scale, meaning anything we do now will take DECADES to have any measurable effect. I''d rather take steps now and find out later they were unwarranted than wait 20 years and find out I and my children are scr*wed.

[omega39-2009]

Posted by ubrew12

Ubrew12, I agree with everything you said except Tahiti. Dubai seems to be the "South America" of choice for today''s looters and plunderers.

[ubrew12]

omega39:
O''Neill''s assessment is probably correct. The red ink is gonna flow in about 5 years (boomer retirement). It''s sad to see the way todays kids are being set up. Ever since Reagan, programs and tax cuts haven''t been paid for. it''s all been put ''on the tab'' and the tab is coming due. You can almost smell wealthy Boomers gearing up to flee the country for Tahiti once the full extent of this multi-generational betrayal gets exposed and people (esp. young people) start asking for some help in paying for it all (Iraq included).

[omega39-2009]

MY SARCASTIC,BUT FACTUAL POSTS HAVE GONE UNANSWERED, AS USUAL.
Posted by tiddsandbeer

That''s because you lost all credibility when you mentioned Hustler. Don''t you realize that since Al Gore invented the internet all that porn is free?

[tiddsanbeer]

goodnight richard...I''ll be back manana to continue slapping p happy pappys'' on this lib site.

[tiddsanbeer]

YOU TELL''EM RUSH!

BUT THEY WONT LISTEN....

MY SARCASTIC,BUT FACTUAL POSTS HAVE GONE UNANSWERED, AS USUAL.


LIBS ONLY HEAR WHAT THEY WANT TO HEAR. FROM ANWAR TO IDAHO.

[russh7]

AMEN, omega39

[ffischer2]

All commented on is so true; Yes, the problem is a result of the Forest Service%u2019s "Smokey Policy"; yes the drying is a result of drying of the environment, for whatever reason; yes many homes are now being threatened; and yes more homes are being threatened. However, your report failed to report WHY so many homes are burning and being threatened. It is in very large part because many more people, especially those with more money than they know what do with like those of the wealthy of Ketchum, Idaho, are buying and building in the forests, as close as they can get to National Forest Land. So ask the question; If the wealthy chose to build their second and third vacation homes in areas prone to fire, why should the taxpayers foot the bill of protection? It happens repeatedly when home of the wealthy are threatened and the Forest Service and BLM are forced, due to the politics of protecting the wealthy to fight disastrous forest fires. Why should not the wealthy support this protection if they choose to build where they do? The Forest Service has limited budgets and when fires hit, the budgets for recreation, trails, stream rehabilitation are tapped to fight these fires. The wealthy should pay when their homes are threatened.

[ubrew12]

jday272486 said: "No mention of the reduced logging in the past 20 years because of the spotted owl." Except they DID mention reduced logging as being partially responsible for these record burns. BTW, the spotted owl only affects clear-cutting in the Pacific NW, hardly the area of the West under discussion as being desertified.

[omega39-2009]

Bush has always been a "straight shooter"

Study commissioned by O%u2019Neill sees $44 trillion in red ink
The Bush administration has shelved a report commissioned by the Treasury that shows the U.S. currently faces a future of chronic federal budget deficits totaling at least $44 trillion in current U.S. dollars.
The study, the most comprehensive assessment of how the U.S. government is at risk of being overwhelmed by the baby boom generation%u2019s future healthcare and retirement costs, was commissioned by then-Treasury secretary Paul O%u2019Neill.
But the Bush administration chose to keep the findings out of the annual budget report for fiscal year 2004, published in February, as the White House campaigned for a tax-cut package that critics claim will expand future deficits.
The study asserts that sharp tax increases, massive spending cuts or a painful mix of both are unavoidable if the U.S. is to meet benefit promises to future generations. It estimates that closing the gap would require the equivalent of an immediate and permanent 66 percent across-the-board income tax increase.
The study was being circulated as an independent working paper among Washington think-tanks as President George W. Bush on Wednesday signed into law a 10-year, $350 billion tax-cut package he welcomed as a victory for hard-working Americans and the economy.

[russh7]

I truly value the information I get from 60 minutes however the fact that the Liberal idiots are the ones that are the cause of the forest fires HERE in Idaho was never exposed.
The fact is the LIBERAL scum bags have slowed logging and forest management is the biggest reason for the massive wild fires.
Let see you LIBERAL scum bags mostly live in a city and have no clue about forests or the management of them and continue to blame everything on global warming.
I will give you that the earth is warming BUT it is always blamed on HUMANS that can never even make a dent in the environmental climate and when it comes to forest fires it is completely caused by MAN NOT managing or doing forest management by logging them aggressively any more..
NOTE: THE LIBERAL SCUM BAGS are now trying to lock up 9 MILLION acres in Northern Montana and Idaho which will be roadless and burn up due to scum sucking LIBERALS that have no clue about forest management.
Thanks for reading this and please be honest with your news exposi%u2019s instead of tainting the information.
P.S. I live in the forest of IDAHO and do know what causes massive forest wildfires so don%u2019t think I am just talking off the top of my hat.
Thanks for time.

[red1530]

The fires wouldn''t be as strong if the forests in question haven''t had a fire in decades due the policy of stopping every fire that started including ones that didn''t threaten structures allowed decades of underbrush to accumulate on the forest floor. So when fires did break out they were stronger then they would of been otherwise.