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Expert: Warming Climate Fueling Megafires

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by hotlikecold October 22, 2007 9:27 PM EDT
Global Warming is caused by the planet Venus.

The lunar calendar and more accurately the Mayan long calendar
predicts 2012 to be the date the gravity of the planet Venus
negatively affects the Moon''s lunar trajectory and causes
disruptions in the weather patterns on the planet Earth. Known
only as, and exacerbated by Global Warming. Though for communities
of the time, then dependent largely on agricultural industries, this
was
known as the beginning of the end times or the apocalypse.
The event of Venus'' orbit pulling the moon away from us happens
every so often and coincides with landmark claims and maps
of human survival such as the book of Genesis and the predictions of
the Maya.


In order to thwart this new enemy, or threat from outer space as I
like to call it, we need to re-engineer the moons orbit back to a
position agreeable with life on earth. This should be the sole focus
of Global Warming talks and endeavours.


That new bomb the Russians invented should do the trick. Just detonate
it alongside the trajectory of the moon and nudge it back into
place. Do this every once in a while and we''ll have a very nice planet
to
live on for a long time to come.


Sincerely yours,


Norman Christian Hoffmann
HAMC
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by susanhelit October 22, 2007 9:18 PM EDT
Global warming is the truth - only a few paid quacks deny it. And only people who don''t like the truth and prefer lies listen to them.

Anyone who has lived anywhere for long enough can see the changes easily. Or you can watch the news and see all the "never before"''s showing up.



Oh - and San Diego doesn''t have forests - old growth, unthinned, or otherwise. We have scrubbrush. When temperatures go up - as with global warming - it dries out sooner and worse. Add in superpowered Santa Anas (another effect that looks to be global warming) - and there we have it - a megafire.
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by lorinkundert October 22, 2007 8:58 PM EDT
Unbelievable how the myth of "Global Warming" is to blame for everything. How about blaming the tree huggers who use every excuse they can to prevent the clearing of brush from areas of development. Make the fuel available and the fires will come.
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by joanprindle October 22, 2007 8:45 PM EDT
I can''t believe the show you put on the fires of the west..Why would you interview someone who''s job depends on having forest fires? When Tom Boatner said the reason for the devastating fire season is the Forest Service great job of putting out fires in yesteryears, and the underbrush growing, I had to laugh. Man, you guys have sure fallen down on the truth that you used to be famous for. Why didn''t you come out to Whitebird, Idaho or Yellowpine, Idaho and interview some people who lost their whole livelihood? No, you go to Ketchum, Idaho where the rich people live. That is the only reason that fire was put out without losing houses. Talk to the real forest people and find out that not logging to thin the forest is the real reason these fires are so big anymore and the Forest Service quit fighting the fires until they become a Project fire so they can get more money. The more money they spend this year, means they get more money next year. This is one rule that needs to change. These big forest fires that they let grow together is job security for the forest service. 60 minutes, I am ashamed of you. Joan Prindle...Riggins, Idaho
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by medres97501 October 22, 2007 8:40 PM EDT
i thought the real reason the yellowstone fire got so big was because environmentalists convinced the feds to just let it burn, and after a couple of weeks of it not just burning out the feds had to send the natl guard to help put it out. 60 min forgot that detail? Also I think in the past fires were put out quicker because logging equipment ie bulldozers etc were readily available to make fire roads etc.
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by fireready October 22, 2007 8:14 PM EDT
Global warming is increasing temps and reducing precipitation in the west. That is having a negative effect on the natural role of fire in forest ecologies. So what can we do? Sadly the report didn%u2019t put much emphasis on that. Free for all logging is not a solution. True a forest with no trees cant burn. Hazardous forest fuels are the small under growth, and weak trees (from resource competition) susceptible to pests. Get the loggers to harvest trees 10"bdh and less and the enviros. would give the green light. Private property owners should take on stewardship programs to protest their homes so fire fighters can safely do their job. And if fires are too big and dangerous, let them go and create a salvage harvest, and reveg. Mitigation is far less expensive than suppression and safer.
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by fireready October 22, 2007 8:07 PM EDT
Global warming is increasing temps and reducing precipitation in the west. That is having a negative effect on the natural role of fire in forest ecologies. So what can we do? Sadly the report didn%u2019t put much emphasis on that. Free for all logging is not a solution. True a forest with no trees cant burn. Hazardous forest fuels are the small under growth, and weak trees (from resource competition) susceptible to pests. Get the loggers to harvest trees 10"bdh and less and the enviros. would give the green light. Private property owners should take on stewardship programs to protest their homes so fire fighters can safely do their job. And if fires are too big and dangerous, let them go and create a salvage harvest, and reveg. Mitigation is far less expensive than suppression and safer.
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by fireready October 22, 2007 8:05 PM EDT
Global warming is increasing temps and reducing precipitation in the west. That is having a negative effect on the natural role of fire in forest ecologies. So what can we do? Sadly the report didn%u2019t put much emphasis on that. Free for all logging is not a solution. True a forest with no trees cant burn. Hazardous forest fuels are the small under growth, and weak trees (from resource competition) susceptible to pests. Get the loggers to harvest trees 10"bdh and less and the enviros. would give the green light. Private property owners should take on stewardship programs to protest their homes so fire fighters can safely do their job. And if fires are too big and dangerous, let them go and create a salvage harvest, and reveg. Mitigation is far less expensive than suppression and safer.
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by monkeebutt64 October 22, 2007 6:52 PM EDT
I have an Uncle that is a firefighter out of Irvine and I am trying to find out if he was sent to these horrible fires. His name is Gary Stenberg, and I think he is with Station #4. I am so worried if anyone knows if station #4 is involved plese let me know. The firefighters are doing a wonderful job. Keep up the good work but be careful. May God Be With You All.
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by fireman452_1 October 22, 2007 5:54 PM EDT
As a fire fighter and fire manager in the South where we have done a better job of managing our fuels than in the West(better I say but still not nearly good enough), it is understood today that things are not what they used to be, the climate is changing, maybe the changes are human caused, maybe not, but it is changing. The largest fire in the history of the continental US happened this year in south GA and north Florida, something the folks in this piece ignored. Wildland fire is not just a western problem, although you would not know this if you expect to get your information from the US media. Very disappointed in the way this reporter decided to present the problem.
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by jgilpin4 October 22, 2007 5:08 PM EDT
Over a century of forestry mismanagement has created an ecosystem over populated with dense stands of diseased, dying and dead trees resulting in fires that burn too hot to allow the trees to survive. It is disengenuous and not true for the forest service to take a greater part of the blame. As great as global warming might be. Fires are a natural part of the forest system''s rebirth. In the dryer mountain areas such as Idaho, fire takes the place of moisture in helping to revegetate and invigorate forest soils.
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by jowand October 22, 2007 5:01 PM EDT
Can''t thin the forest out, can''t cut the thousands of dead trees, courtesy of the Sierra Club and friends. Plus if idiots would quit lighting illegal fires, and morons would stop throwing cigarette butts on the ground.
With this kind of mentality you don''t need global warming.
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by tnt1954 October 22, 2007 4:53 PM EDT
sorry to bring the bad news, the earth''s orbit
is decaying. all the rockets and stuff over the
years, the thrusts, and stuff. knocked us a little
out of orbit. orbital decay. so its gonna
get hotter. there was an old twilight zone story
about that. they wished it was getting colder,
the earth was increasing the ellipse of the orbit,
they were dreaming though, it was really getting
hotter and hotter, the orbit was decaying.
based on fact. a subtle timid warning to us.
thanks rod serling.
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by dan9111 October 22, 2007 4:27 PM EDT
"For those of you who say oh there is no such thing as Global Warming then try this experiment please also let us know how it works out.

Go home seal your house then smoke and drink eat throw things on the floor don''''t ever clean up and don''''t open a window. Let us know how long it takes for you to die."

Posted by antoniof123

I used to buy that argument. Later, I found there are flaws and that FGW (Faith-based Global Warming) is a hoax. There are things we can do to help true global warming, but voting for Democrats or other violent offenders is not one of them. It turns out through the marketplace that pollution that is abstained is pollution that is sustained. For instance, governments are the largest polluters of all, and have destroyed more habitats than private industry could ever hope. Yet they are the ones promoting FGW. A private owner has a stake in selling the land someday, thus keeping it clean and sustainable. The government (through agent orange, military projects, etc.) has nothing but a history of truly unregulated messes -- FGW is just another one. And whatever "carbon credits" one country gets, another will burn under FGW. It is zero sum, sadly using such a violent theory. Strangely the Bush administration might be the most environmentally friendly once the long-term is considered.
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by gunnerv1 October 22, 2007 3:23 PM EDT
This is so much BS. When I lived in Vallejo (1969-71) the Santa Anna''s where so friggin'' hot that we would put on Navy Lifejackets and sleep in the pool, boy were we "pruney" when we got out to got to work in the morning.
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by ralan40 October 22, 2007 2:19 PM EDT
Wildfires are natures way of cleaning up the forest floor. Mismanagement caused by years of suppressing these fires has caused a buildup of fuel that makes these fires more volatile. Add to it a greater population in these areas also adds to the situation. Climat change has been a factor in Human societies for thousands of years. The fall of Rome, The Black Plauge, The lost civilizations of the Anesthazi, and Mayans....even Jamestown, were directly related to climate change. I would laugh at those who are ignorant to think these are recent events, but saddened that their fingerpointing is the only solution they are capable of understanding.
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by toldyouso21 October 22, 2007 1:40 PM EDT
Of course global warming is a reality--what the ramifications of it really are and what it all means--should be the debate. I can see global warming on any street right now in the Midwest: The narcissus and magnolias are blooming. They should not be. Both begin to bloom in March and early April and are definitely finished by May.

Not this year. In October, (and even today) I have daffodils blooming and magnolia trees blooming in my yard. Not new cultivars--jsut the same ones that last year, behaved as they should. Why is this frightening? if one loves trees and plants, then you know that right before winter, most plants DON''T bloom. They save all of their energy and put it into their roots to prepare for winter. Sort of winterizing. If freezing weather comes and they are blooming, they most likely will die as they will be in the wrong mode for the season and will not have saved up enough to feed on during the winter--also because they are not dormant, they will be vulnerable to the horrors of winter. What a way to lose vegetation. First with fire and also now with plant season confusion. And to think we need all of these to cleanse the air and use up CO2 and give us back oxygen. the bible says--"In the last days, you cannot tell the seasons from the seasons" believers or not---looks like those days are upon us--at least the plants indicate this is so.
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by antoniof123 October 22, 2007 11:32 AM EDT
For those of you who say oh there is no such thing as Global Warming then try this experiment please also let us know how it works out.

Go home seal your house then smoke and drink eat throw things on the floor don''t ever clean up and don''t open a window. Let us know how long it takes for you to die.
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by dez451 October 22, 2007 10:57 AM EDT
Hey Einstein, ever heard of LIGHTNING? It causes most of our western fires.
Posted by jimfinster at 03:16 AM : Oct 22, 2007

I see. Global warming causes lightning. Thank you.
Einstein

My comments really are addressing the obvious...which may be too simplistic to comprehend. Are there MORE fires this year than ever or just bigger fires? Are the causes of the fires now in the same proportion or different from those years ago? How many are arson verses accidental verses acts of nature? What are the percentages? My concern regarding this story is that this fundamental issue, in my opinion, wasn''t addressed at all. While I am sure that lightening causes forest fires, I am not willing to assume on anecdotal information that all variables have remained constant except for "global warming" regarding this year''s record fire season.

What did the caveman call it when the Ice Age was coming to an end?
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by jimfinster October 22, 2007 6:16 AM EDT
But now I see the obvious...global warming causes spontaneous combustion. Of course.
Posted by dez451 at 01:33 AM : Oct 22, 2007

Hey Einstein, ever heard of LIGHTNING? It causes most of our western fires.


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