Comments on: Valerie Plame Wilson: No Ordinary Spy

In Her First Interview, Former CIA Officer Speaks To Katie Couric

[abbe91]

Sandreadpillow,

When are you moving to Crawford ? You could make the ham in the sandwich between your boyfriends Bush and Gannon ...
But make sure you are not shot in the face by *** in the mean time.

[abbe91]

"when are you kindly moving to Tehran? "

Sandreadpillow,

When are you moving to Crawford ? You could make the ham in the sandwich between your boyfriends Bush and Gannon ...

[abbe91]

Give SendReidPelo a penny for his thoughts and what do you get ?

Change.

[abbe91]

Give SendReidPelo a penny for his toughts and what do you get ?

Change.

[minkya2]

After 3 days, Ihope I get this through. I understand you had such negative response to Katie Couric, you wanted to stifle the thousands of comments about her being snide, incompetent and obviously hacking for the Administration. To Ms. Plame''s cr4edit she made the interviewer look stupid, vapid and partisan.

[sendreidpelo]

The Dems and their fellow travelling Nazi stooges and MoveOn.Org kool-aid drinkers still cannot prove a thing about their girlfriend, she of the nice legs, the coquettish smile, the playing with the blonde hair - and the glorified secretary''ho - NOTHING MORE, NOTHING LESS.

They still can''t figure out that she lied. That Fat Pig Joe "outed" her - or why she''d even allow a high profile controversal bully to undertake a secret mission that he was UNQUALIFIED to do. If she was such a top operative, she''d say No or urge Tenet to appoint someone else.

A Glorified Sec has NO say - and why hasn''t she refused to name names? Go look up another Leftist icon, Phillip Agee. He had no problems with doing that, and Jimmy Carter did NOTHING to him.

You still cannot prove a thing, Lefties. But keep spewing, vomiting, and lying - for that''s your speed.

IF LEFTIES HAD BRAINS THEY''D BE REPUBLICANS -AND AMERICANS.

[sendreidpelo]

abbe,

when are you kindly moving to Tehran? You''d be much happier there, especially with your boyfriend Ahmedinejedad and his scraggy monkey''s a$$ face - and you sure wouldn''t be missed here.

Go - and take your friends Bimbo Val and Piggy Joe with you - maybe they can claim they''re covert agents there too.

LOL.

[terrorislam2]

partisan political operatives demonic-rat moles under deep cover in the cia

WILSON: I have no idea. I%u2019m not in the government. I would not want to be doing damage control on this. I think you probably just fess up and try to move on and say there%u2019s sufficient other evidence to convict Saddam of being involved in the nuclear arms trade.

Note that up until at least March 8, 2003 Joe Wilson still contended that Saddam had WMD and that he was involved in the nuclear arms trade.

So what happened after March 8th to make Wilson change his tune about Iraq%u2019s WMD and revise his "findings" from his trip to Niger? A version in direct contradiction to what he told his CIA debriefers, according to the US Senate%u2019s Select Committee On Intelligence report?

And what set Mr. Wilson off on his jihad against Mr. Bush about those "16 words"?

The answer is obvious. The US invaded Iraq in mid-March and after searching for six weeks, admitted they had not found any stockpiles of weapons of mass destruction. So Mr. Bush was suddenly very vulnerable to criticism on the subject. Even though Mr. Wilson had continually contended that Saddam had WMD.

And, coincidentally%u2026

May 2003: Joe Wilson began to "advise" the Kerry for President campaign.

[terrorislam2]

partisan political operatives demonic-rat moles under deep cover in the cia

March 8, 2003: CNN%u2019s Renay San Miguel interviewed Joe Wilson about the so-called Niger forgeries, which had just become a hot topic in the news.

SAN MIGUEL: Just fine. How could this happen? It is the perception that documents like these are vetted to within an inch of their life by intelligence agencies. How do you think this managed to slip by?
WILSON: Well, this particular case is outrageous. I actually started my foreign service career in Niger and ended my foreign service career doing %u2013 in charge of Africa in the Clinton White House. We know a lot about the uranium business in Niger, and for something like this to go unchallenged by U.S. %u2013 the U.S. government is just simply stupid. It would have taken a couple of phone calls. We have had an embassy there since the early %u201960s. All this stuff is open. It%u2019s a restricted market of buyers and sellers. The Nigerians (sic) have always been very open with us.

For this to have gotten to the IAEA is on the face of it dumb, but more to the point, it taints the whole rest of the case that the government is trying to build against Iraq%u2026

SAN MIGUEL: So how do you play this, then? I mean, what, do you admit it, do you just move on? Do you try to get these things verified if you do believe, indeed, that Iraq was trying to buy this material from Niger? I mean, how do you handle this? What%u2019s the damage control on this?

[terrorislam2]

partisan political operatives demonic-rat moles under deep cover in the cia

Then what%u2019s the point of this new American imperialism? The neoconservatives with a stranglehold on the foreign policy of the Republican Party, a party that traditionally eschewed foreign military adventures, want to go beyond expanding US global influence to force revolutionary change on the region.

American pre-eminence in the Gulf is necessary but not sufficient for the hawks. Nothing short of conquest, occupation and imposition of handpicked leaders on a vanquished population will suffice. Iraq is the linchpin for this broader assault on the region. The new imperialists will not rest until governments that ape our worldview are implanted throughout the region, a breathtakingly ambitious undertaking, smacking of hubris in the extreme.

[terrorislam2]

partisan political operatives demonic-rat moles under deep cover in the cia

MOYERS: "The danger must be confronted." You agree with that? "We would hope that the Iraqi regime will meet the demands of the United Nations and disarm fully and peacefully. If it does not, we are prepared to disarm Iraq by force. Either way, this danger will be removed. The safety of the American people depends on ending this direct and growing threat." You agree with that?

WILSON: I agree with that. Sure. The President goes on to say in that speech as he did in the State of the Union Address is we will liberate Iraq from a brutal dictator. All of which is true. But the only thing Saddam Hussein hears in this speech or the State of the Union Address is, "He%u2019s coming to kill me. He doesn%u2019t care if I have weapons of mass destruction or not. His objective is to come and overthrow my regime and to kill me." And that then does not provide any incentive whatsoever to disarm.

March 3, 2003: At the invitation of David Corn, Joe Wilson wrote a piece for the Nation, Republic Or Empire?

In it Wilson blasted the "neo-conservatives" in the Bush administration for their imperial over-reach. But he once again made no mention of uranium or any other suggestion that Bush misled the country or lied about Iraq%u2019s WMD.

[abbe91]

"CIA should learn next time NOT to hire political incompetents and stick with professionals. We cannot afford anymore 9/11s.
Posted by SendReidPelo at 08:16 AM : Oct 23, 2007"

America should learn not to elect (or let Diebold
appoint, for that matter) the kind of scum who will selectively leak sensitive information for political benefit. Even republicans are getting upset.

http://video.aol.com/video-detail/hoekstra-bush-mum-on-syria/3920778076

[terrorislam2]

partisan political operatives demonic-rat moles under deep cover in the cia

January 28, 2003: President George W. Bush delivered his State of the Union address.

February 6, 2003: Joe Wilson wrote an editorial for the Los Angeles Times, A %u2018Big Cat%u2019 With Nothing to Lose, in which he claimed we should not attack Saddam Hussein because he will use his weapons of mass destruction on our troops and give them to terrorists.

There is now no incentive for Hussein to comply with the inspectors or to refrain from using weapons of mass destruction to defend himself if the United States comes after him.

And he will use them; we should be under no illusion about that.

February 28, 2003: Joe Wilson was interviewed by Bill Moyers. Wilson agreed with Bush%u2019s SOTU remarks, and reiterated his belief that Saddam had WMD and that he would use them on US troops.


MOYERS: President Bush%u2019s recent speech to the American Enterprise Institute, he said, let me quote it to you. "The danger posed by Saddam Hussein and his weapons cannot be ignored or wished away." You agree with that?
WILSON: I agree with that. Sure.

[terrorislam2]

partisan political operatives demonic-rat moles under deep cover in the cia

A month before Bob Novak published Valerie Plame%u2019s name and disclosed that she worked at the CIA in a department that monitored weapons of mass destruction, the gossipy Richard Armitage at the State Department already knew all about her.

When asked how he knew about Plame, Armitage said he knew because Joe Wilson was "calling everybody" and telling them. And by "everybody" Mr. Armitage certainly meant reporters.

With that in mind it is an easy step to suppose that it was Mr. Joseph C. Wilson IV himself who first "outed" his wife as a CIA officer.

And, as Mr. Armitage also suggested, Wilson did so because he didn%u2019t want to be dismissed as some "low-level guy." He wanted to buttress his wildly outrageous (and we now know fallacious) claims against a then popular President at the height of a then popular war.

And what better way to do so than to produce the person who sent him on his mission, and who witnessed the events unfold %u2014 his own wife, who just happened to be an expert on weapons of mass destruction.

To see how this may very well have happened, let%u2019s go through the chronology in greater detail.

[terrorislam2]

partisan political operatives demonic-rat moles under deep cover in the cia

Despite having ample opportunities to do so, Joe Wilson never complained about the "sixteen words" in President Bush%u2019s State Of The Union address until almost five months after it was delivered.

And then only after he had met with top Democrat Senators and had signed on with John Kerry%u2019s presidential campaign.

From then on Mr. Wilson promoted a two-fold story to reporters in which he claimed:

1) That he had personally debunked the claims of Iraq%u2019s nuclear deals with Niger with an "unequivocal" report that circulated at the highest levels of the government.

2) That he had personally debunked the so-called Niger forgeries by pointing out to the CIA and State Department that the documents contained errors in names and dates.

We now know thanks to the report on this matter from the bi-partisan US Senate Select Committee On Intelligence that both of these claims were utterly false. (And indeed, the "sixteen words" themselves have turned out to be quite grounded in fact.)

So how is it that some of the most prominent reporters from the New York Times, the Washington Post and elsewhere reported Mr. Wilson%u2019s outlandish charges on faith? He does not generally give the impression of being any too trustworthy.

Was it because he had someone who could corroborate his incendiary story? A "second source"? An expert in this very field?

[abbe91]

"what was Plame doing to prevent 9/11 IF she was such a top spy?
Posted by SendReidPelo at 08:16 AM : Oct 23, 2007"

Were WMDs used for 911 ? Unlikely. More likely, thermate.

[sendreidpelo]

Speaks volumes about Plame doesn''t it..."recruiting" a high profile, controversal bully, namely her husband to undertake a sensitive mission.

But it still doesn''t confirm whether she was a covert agent - just someone - even a secretary with a lot of political pull.

And it speaks volumes about the incompetence and stupidity of one George Tenet to agree to this. Unless he did so because he too felt Plame was no more than a glorified sec whom he KNEW had high political connections going up to Clinton and Gore. If Tenet said NO - this bimbo would have howled. As it was, Tenet should have been removed by Bush from the get-go. Another mistake besides advocating a PLO terror state and moddycuddyling the ILLEGALS - but consider what the MoveOn.Org paid cowards would do in his place - Hillary, Boy Obama, Edwards.

The kind of slime whom bimbo Val and her fat Pig would endorse. CIA should learn next time NOT to hire political incompetents and stick with professionals. We cannot afford anymore 9/11s.

And by the way, Bozo Nazis - what was Plame doing to prevent 9/11 IF she was such a top spy? Playing with her hair and smiling coquettish at Bin Laden?

[terrorislam2]

When And Why Joe Wilson Outed Valerie Plame
http://sweetness-light.com/archive/when-and-why-joseph-c-wilson-iv-outed-valerie-plame

Plame''s Input Is Cited on Niger Mission
Report Disputes Wilson''s Claims on Trip, Wife''s Role
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A39834-2004Jul9.html

http://www.globalsecurity.org/intell/library/congress/2004_rpt/iraq-wmd-intell_chapter2-b.htm

http://www.floppingaces.net/2007/02/07/joe-wilsons-lies-grow-bigger/

dummy hubby says publicly there was no evidence of iraq trying to by yellow cake, the cia debriefing shows not only iraq but also iran was trying to buy yellow cake.

(Update) Joe Wilson''s Forgetfulness
http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2006/04/update_joe_wilsons_forgetfulne.asp

[terrorislam2]

Former ambassador Joseph C. Wilson IV, dispatched by the CIA in February 2002 to investigate reports that Iraq sought to reconstitute its nuclear weapons program with uranium from Africa, was specifically recommended for the mission by his wife, a CIA employee, contrary to what he has said publicly.

Wilson last year launched a public firestorm with his accusations that the administration had manipulated intelligence to build a case for war. He has said that his trip to Niger should have laid to rest any notion that Iraq sought uranium there and has said his findings were ignored by the White House.

Wilson''s assertions -- both about what he found in Niger and what the Bush administration did with the information -- were undermined yesterday in a bipartisan Senate intelligence committee report.

The panel found that Wilson''s report, rather than debunking intelligence about purported uranium sales to Iraq, as he has said, bolstered the case for most intelligence analysts. And contrary to Wilson''s assertions and even the government''s previous statements, the CIA did not tell the White House it had qualms about the reliability of the Africa intelligence that made its way into 16 fateful words in President Bush''s January 2003 State of the Union address.

[terrorislam2]

What does the new information mean? On February 12, 2002, the Defense Intelligence Agency released %u2014 inside the government, not publicly %u2014 a report covering the Africa uranium issue; its title said that Niger had (signed an agreement to sell 500 tons of uranium a year to Baghdad.) CIA officials told Senate investigators the report spurred requests for information from both the State Department and the Department of Defense. Knowledgeable sources speculate %u2014 and they stress, they are speculating %u2014 that those inquiries from State and Defense were made on the 12th, the day the Defense Intelligence Agency report was sent around, and that Valerie Plame Wilson, in suggesting her husband be sent to investigate, was reacting to those requests, and not to the vice president%u2019s question, which came the next day. In this new version of events, *** Cheney was the last guy to request more information, not the first; the notion that his request started the whole affair seems wrong.