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Rapper Cam'ron: Snitching Hurts His Business, "Code Of Ethics"
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- I am a white dude and thier tellen me that if I go bust a cap in Busta'a *** or Killa Cam s *** in front of thier entourages, in public...thier not going to snitch!!!! DON"T BET ON IT! They'd turn in a white dude faster than the cops could get there. So what thier puttin out is a scam...it's a black think...a race thing...and I think some hotshot lawyer or congressman should get on top of this article and PUT THE HEAT on the record label's and just see if "no record label really would threaten to stop production of thier stuff if they do not change thier lyircs." I'll bet if the feds cam down on the record companys they'd do something about this.
Like Mr. Canada said "this is a crime...this ia murder...this is murder...and it's illmoral to publish trash like thier puttin out. - Reply to this comment
- Alot of people believe drug dealing is run by the police !
Posted by old300d
We not only believe it, but have seen it, and some people I know have done it. Heroin, coke, crack, all can be easily obtained from members of the blue thugs in any medium to large city, and probably many small towns. - Reply to this comment
There was a crack house a few houses down from my house. I called the cops when it would get real busy down there. I was years before someone finally burned it down. The cops never did anything about it !
People are afraid of the thugs ! That's all this is about. Fear !
And trust the police ? They may or may not be thugs too. You don't know.
Alot of people believe drug dealing is run by the police !- Reply to this comment
- who do you talk to if their a pedophilia in your neighborhood or someone rapes or jacks your mother?
Posted by chas8936
Talk to the rapist, or the jacker. If you aren't the blue thugs, you can usually very easily find out who did it, and take appropriate steps for redress. After your community has dealt realistically with the problem, others will know to keep their BS out of your neighborhood.
Once the blue thugs get involved, the wrong people get harmed, the party reporting frequently is harassed,, and if they violate laws in the deal, they will cover, or "no snitch" for each other. - Reply to this comment
- It appears the schackles on the minds of these people has clearly asphyxiated and clearly have no emotional, social or mental connection to the people around them or the thousands of people they affect. I believe the rap artist said the exact truth....I wonder how his parents feel about the person they have contributed to the world and I wonder what would he and those like him do when it's their loved ones or family members or friends negatively impacted by the violence they support and supposedly live by. Clearly mental illness and strong sociopathic behaviors runs consistently through the rapper world and this so called music is definitely corrupting our children and they all laugh at them all the way to the bank. We should ask ourselves, who are the slaves and slavers in this scenario?
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- well, there is a modern day proverb that goes something like this:
"Garbage in, Garbage out."
Listen to the lyrics on the rap music and some of the hip-hop. Trash language, murder, drugs, pimpin' and hoein', rape, adultery, robbery, and so on and so on and so on...
If you listen to that stuff over and over and over...your brain gets programmed. In adults, it doesn't really have too much of an effect. But, the earlier the children get started on it, the more likely they'll think that way. It's a technique of brainwashing. Furthermore, another tactic of brainwashing is to flood the community with crime so badly and so often that you develop an apathy to it. This is why it needs to be stopped. When the community develops an apathy to what their children hear and see, and the people they hang around with, that is when crime, in general, wins. Don't get apathetic. Those of you who still have a sense of morality, fight this thing from taking over your city, schools, neighborhoods, children, and government. - Reply to this comment
- I have one big problem with the broadcast and the remarks made about snitching. Never talk to the police; who do you talk to if their a pedophilia in your neighborhood or someone rapes or jacks your mother?
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- "Snitching" can indeed be hazardous to your community, as the police, who generally regard anyone other than a rich caucasian as nothing worth a modicum of respect, act more like thugs than the thugs, and bringing them into your neighborhood often proves to be the worst move.
I support the anti "snitch" mentality, partly because the rich "white" criminals commit the most heinous crimes in our society, then protect each other with the same tactic, and partly because once the thugs in blue get involved, many more innocent people also get hurt, then they also protect themselves using the same tactic.
I find it disingenuous to attempt to portray this solely as a "black rapper" problem, all segments of society do it, including the police, and other "law enforcement" bodies. - Reply to this comment
- I liked Cam'ron, and understood where he was coming from. He seems bright among other things.
I think his "apology" showed class. He didnt have to do it, and some of it was probably for business reasons, but I thought it thoughtful and sincere, contrite without being phony.
Mr. Geoffrey Canada is a true icon and model of our age. As a former 8-year school board member, St. Louis Public Schools, I had occasion to hear Mr. Canada in St.Louis about his Harlam Childre's Zone work in New York City. Very Impressive.
I know Mr. Canada and Mr. Giles share our dreams for our children - good education, self-esteem, good job opportunities. Why dont they work together developing programs like Harlem Children's Zone so we dont have so many of them on the street pursuing crime because we've left them little choice, and so we all dont have to worry about so much to "snitch" about? All children reading at grade level by third grade, mandatory pre-k, business community "adopting" older children with tutoring and mentoring and jobs, businesses letting parents and others off from work 3 days a month with pay if they go into the schools and visit their kids and tutor others' children (for tax credits, rather than tax credits for scholarships/vouchers which are counter-productive generally), that sort of thing. Just a thought. But a good one if you ask me. - Reply to this comment
- I think this was a very lazy and borderline racist report. The program begins by describing a hip hop marketing venture. The "Stop Snitching" t-shirt and slogan is a dispicable. It boasts the "street cred" of the artist and wearers of the shirts. Most of the consumers of so-called rap music are white males which is only a footnote. The artists interviewed played up the "Stop Snitching" stance, predictable. The leap between this marketing scheme and crime and justice in the most impoverished black community was weak.
The kids were used in the presentation to blame hip hop for their distrust of law enforcement. Law enforcement and the black community in the United States have had a mistrust issue since the emancipation proclamation, well before the hip hop era. Secondly the disproportionate rate of incarceration coupled with harsher sentencing for blacks compared to whites was never even discussed.
The white owned corporations are promoting the most vile part of the black community for profit to their white consumers. *** and violence sells.
When it comes to black entertainers there is a double standard. For example in the Sopranos televison series two characters are killed for informing/snitching,but we don't see a 60 minute story on HBO promoting distrust of law enforcement.
Stop blaming entertainment and look toward the systemic problems between law enforcement and the black community in America. It has been here for over two-hundred years. - Reply to this comment
- I think this was a very lazy and borderline racist report. The program begins by describing a hip hop marketing venture. The "Stop Snitching" t-shirt and slogan is a dispicable. It boasts the "street cred" of the artist and wearers of the shirts. Most of the consumers of so-called rap music are white males which is only a footnote. The artists interviewed played up the "Stop Snitching" stance, predictable. The leap between this marketing scheme and crime and justice in the most impoverished black community was weak.
The kids were used in the presentation to blame hip hop for their distrust of law enforcement. Law enforcement and the black community in the United States have had a mistrust issue since the emancipation proclamation, well before the hip hop era. Secondly the disproportionate rate of incarceration coupled with harsher sentencing for blacks compared to whites was never even discussed.
The white owned corporations are promoting the most vile part of the black community for profit to their white consumers. *** and violence sells.
When it comes to black entertainers there is a double standard. For example in the Sopranos televison series two characters are killed for informing/snitching,but we don't see a 60 minute story on HBO promoting distrust of law enforcement.
Stop blaming entertainment and look toward the systemic problems between law enforcement and the black community in America. It has been here for over two-hundred years. - Reply to this comment
- Unfair...Foul...Out of bounds...
Maybe I missed it, but how does a story on snitchin go to rap music? Being a rat is a racially universal act. It may be my bigoted view..but 'being a RAT' came from another race other than Blacks. We typically call it..being a tattle tail. Back to the story...being a rat/snitch has nothing to do with POSITIVE rap music, if that is where we wanted to take this story, we should have had interviews with Talib, Mos Def, De La Soul, A Tribe Call Quest, Common, Andre 3000, Slick Rick, LL Cool J, The Beastie Boys...and dare I say...Public Enemy. Rap music is not the culprit since rap music is more diverse than just 'GANGSTA RAP'...which is truly SATAN to a BANGING BEAT! Hip-Hop is the art of phrasing words to beats...telling a story...EDU-TAINING an audience. My bad, I forgot to mention... - Reply to this comment
- Unfair...Foul...Out of bounds...
Maybe I missed it, but how does a story on snitchin go to rap music? Being a rat is a racially universal act. It may be my bigoted view..but 'being a RAT' came from another race other than Blacks. We typically call it..being a tattle tail. Back to the story...being a rat/snitch has nothing to do with POSITIVE rap music, if that is where we wanted to take this story, we should have had interviews with Talib, Mos Def, De La Soul, A Tribe Call Quest, Common, Andre 3000, Slick Rick, LL Cool J, The Beastie Boys...and dare I say...Public Enemy. Rap music is not the culprit since rap music is more diverse than just 'GANGSTA RAP'...which is truly SATAN to a BANGING BEAT! Hip-Hop is the art of phrasing words to beats...telling a story...EDU-TAINING an audience. My bad, I forgot to mention... - Reply to this comment
- Unfair...Foul...Out of bounds...
Maybe I missed it, but how does a story on snitchin go to rap music? Being a rat is a racially universal act. It may be my bigoted view..but 'being a RAT' came from another race other than Blacks. We typically call it..being a tattle tail. Back to the story...being a rat/snitch has nothing to do with POSITIVE rap music, if that is where we wanted to take this story, we should have had interviews with Talib, Mos Def, De La Soul, A Tribe Call Quest, Common, Andre 3000, Slick Rick, LL Cool J, The Beastie Boys...and dare I say...Public Enemy. Rap music is not the culprit since rap music is more diverse than just 'GANGSTA RAP'...which is truly SATAN to a BANGING BEAT! Hip-Hop is the art of phrasing words to beats...telling a story...EDU-TAINING an audience. My bad, I forgot to mention... - Reply to this comment
- Unfair...Foul...Out of bounds...
Maybe I missed it, but how does a story on snitchin go to rap music? Being a rat is a racially universal act. It may be my bigoted view..but 'being a RAT' came from another race other than Blacks. We typically call it..being a tattle tail. Back to the story...being a rat/snitch has nothing to do with POSITIVE rap music, if that is where we wanted to take this story, we should have had interviews with Talib, Mos Def, De La Soul, A Tribe Call Quest, Common, Andre 3000, Slick Rick, LL Cool J, The Beastie Boys...and dare I say...Public Enemy. Rap music is not the culprit since rap music is more diverse than just 'GANGSTA RAP'...which is truly SATAN to a BANGING BEAT! Hip-Hop is the art of phrasing words to beats...telling a story...EDU-TAINING an audience. My bad, I forgot to mention... - Reply to this comment
- It is sad to see what started off as a beautiful and creative art form that talked about social and human issues with skillful word play have been reduced to nothing because of ignorance and lack of common sense by some of the rappers and its fans.
Not all but most of the rappers today are lost as are the younger generation who shot and kill each other and then think that if you snitch you are commiting a worse crime.
I lost a lot of respect for Camron and his whole click but what is sad is that kids look up to him and think like him and live by this stupid code that will do nothing but destroy the black community. God help us all! - Reply to this comment
- Below "Myopinion1" commented that we should refer to ourselves as "black" and not "African Americans" because there are white "African Americans." While I do agree that we should identify ourselves as "black," it should be noted that black Americans identify themselves as "African Americans" to give place to origin and history. Because during slavery, blacks were stripped from families and separated from our native tribes and countries, it is difficult, to say the least, to be able to correctly, and thereby properly, identify ourselves as being, for example, Ethopian, Nigerian, etc. Therefore, we simply, and as accurately as possible, recognize ourselves as "African Americans" simply in respect to our heritage and land.
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- Below "Myopinion1" commented that we should refer to ourselves as "black" and not "African Americans" because there are white "African Americans." While I do agree that we should identify ourselves as "black," it should be noted that black Americans identify themselves as "African Americans" to give place to origin and history. Because during slavery, blacks were stripped from families and separated from our native tribes and countries, it is difficult, to say the least, to be able to correctly, and thereby properly, identify ourselves as being, for example, Ethopian, Nigerian, etc. Therefore, we simply, and as accurately as possible, recognize ourselves as "African Americans" simply in respect to our heritage and land.
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- To pose a peculiar ethical dilemma: If the white CEO of the music label shot Camron in front of his posse, would the brothers not snitch?
Until recently I spent a fair amount of time in some tough parts of Oakland and Richmond, CA improving properties for affordable owner occupied housing. The credit crunch is emptying these neighborhoods of strivers getting their first rung on the ladder of ownership, leaving vacant homes for the gang bangers. Dudes like Camron don't improve the hood, they just lay it to waste. Mark my worrds, it's going to get really, really, really nasty as crime explodes. - Reply to this comment
- We should stop wasting the police's time in the neighborhoods where 'snitches get stitches' and concentrate on keeping that crime out of the neighborhoods where black and white middle-class people want safety and will gladly call the police when they see crime occurring!
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