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Rapper Cam'ron: Snitching Hurts His Business, "Code Of Ethics"

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by leejohnson13-2009 August 13, 2007 9:17 PM EDT
well why dont we just go around and pick up every one that is committed or committing a crime and ship them off some where else. not all cops are raciest, just like not everyone is either. but to sit by and keep your mouth shut because you dont like cops and you care more about what people might think of you thats criminal. if the rappers were living in another country they wouldnt have half the money and they forget who made them , hello, customers bought thier records and went to their concerts. it was ignorant to say on national tv that he would snitch and it was because he wanted his concert to go on. watch the show again. get involved people it could save a life including your family. now if white people were on tv saying that ***, there would be hell too pay. all depends who says it.
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by bluemule6 August 13, 2007 8:57 PM EDT
lunachick35, you can go to Africa any time you want if you don't like living among whites but you won't. Instead you will just continue to play your blame game blaming whites for virtually all the stupid black behavior because you know that there is no place on earth where blacks enjoy the same standard of living as they do when living among a white majority.
I know your type, you blame guns for the violence instead of the amoral predators who indiscriminately use them, you blame whites for creating AIDS to exterminate blacks instead of all the blacks who to this day are spreading AIDS at a much higher rate than whites by having unprotected ***, you blame the CIA for putting crack in your neighborhoods instead of all the blacks who freely engage in its distribution and use... bla bla bla we have heard it all before.
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by bluemule6 August 13, 2007 8:48 PM EDT
Race has everything to do with this issue. Like some posters have said, there are a lot of whites who listen to hip hop yet whites are not shooting each other at the black rate which is 8 TIMES the white murder rate! Whites are not refusing to cooperate with the police either. Violent and predatory crime is rampant among blacks in comparrison to whites. If white people were to ever act as criminally as blacks this country would collapse and cease to function. To blame rap for this amoral mindset that so many blacks have of ignoring crime is plain stupid. Music does not rob you of your morals and common sense. This is simply a reflection of the general lack of morals that is the black community and if they don't want to behave like decent humans and report crimes then they deserve to be segregatyed and allowed to live with their criminals among them for white people do not deserve to be subjected to all these black predators who ruin our urban areas with their crime and violence.
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by ben_d1 August 13, 2007 8:47 PM EDT
Don't Snitch has roots in a basic feeling of alienation from the system. The legal system is not there to protect and help but to punish and penalize. "Right" and "Wrong" have been replaced with "Legal" and "Illegal". Police are out there to give you tickets and arrest you, not to help. The legal system is more of a game than something that is felt to be a source of justice. Would you trust your fate to a system that has TV ads for "Get the money you deserve?" (for spilling a cup of coffee on yourself? If somebody you love were raped, would you trust the system to exact swift justice? Just how do we expect to people to cooperate with a system that is so corrupt that you can not have an agreement that says "I will not sue you", mean what it says? When the blue clad arms of the law are seen as a threat, not people who are there to help you. Now if you are part of a group that keeps on being reminded that they are second class citizens, just how do you view the people asking for help in solving a crime? Will they actually go after the correct person to exact justice? Will they really care about you if you are not one of the "In" people? Don't Snitch is a natural symptom of a bad disease. Totally counter-productive but "I'm from the government, I'm here to help you" is more than an oxymoron.
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by keithle1 August 13, 2007 8:46 PM EDT
I suppose the black policemen are racist too.

1 million black men in prison. Try to tell me that were on their way to the library & the police stopped them & started questioning them for no reason.

You don't have any problem with black people murdering black people in your community & getting away with it? If they kill your mother
& brother, that's cool. No big deal. Your hatred of & disrespect of the police supercedes that.

The black community just feeds on itself. The crabs at the bottom of the barrel dragging all the other crabs down. I can't see it changing dramatically. Unless blacks realize that not every police officer is out to get them. Sure, there are a few bad apples on the police force.
But surely you're not going to tell me they're all like that.
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by ben_d1 August 13, 2007 8:43 PM EDT
Don't Snitch has roots in a basic feeling of alienation from the system. The legal system is not there to protect and help but to punish and penalize. "Right" and "Wrong" have been replaced with "Legal" and "Illegal". Police are out there to give you tickets and arrest you, not to help. The legal system is more of a game than something that is felt to be a source of justice. Would you trust your fate to a system that has TV ads for "Get the money you deserve?" (for spilling a cup of coffee on yourself? If somebody you love were raped, would you trust the system to exact swift justice? Just how do we expect to people to cooperate with a system that is so corrupt that you can not have an agreement that says "I will not sue you", mean what it says? When the blue clad arms of the law are seen as a threat, not people who are there to help you. Now if you are part of a group that keeps on being reminded that they are second class citizens, just how do you view the people asking for help in solving a crime? Will they actually go after the correct person to exact justice? Will they really care if you are not one of the "In" people? Don't Snitch is a natural symptom of a bad disease.
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by ben_d1 August 13, 2007 8:39 PM EDT
Don't Snitch has roots in a basic feeling of alienation from the system. The legal system is not there to protect and help but to punish and penalize. "Right" and "Wrong" have been replaced with "Legal" and "Illegal". Police are out there to give you tickets and arrest you, not to help. The legal system is more of a game than something that is felt to be a source of justice. Would you trust your fate to a system that has TV ads for "Get the money you deserve?" (for spilling a cup of coffee on yourself? If somebody you love were raped, would you trust the system to exact swift justice? Just how do we expect to people to cooperate with a system that is so corrupt that you can not have an agreement that says "I will not sue you", mean what it says? When the blue clad arms of the law are seen as a threat, not people who are there to help you. Now if you are part of a group that keeps on being reminded that they are second class citizens, just how do you view the people asking for help in solving a crime? Will they actually go after the correct person to exact justice? Will they really care if you are not one of the "In" people? Don't Snitch is a natural symptom of a bad disease.
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by leejohnson13-2009 August 13, 2007 7:50 PM EDT
I cannot believe the comments in this section about being a raciest. that has nothing to do with reporting a crime, crime has no color or race. it can attack any one and for any one to hold back information for the cops to catch a criminal is stupid. stop snitchin is absolutely stupid. you mean to tell me that if one of those idiots saw a woman being beat, raped or a child they wouldnt say anything. for anyone to promote the nasty music that they sing is also wrong. i am sorry but for anyone to say on national tv that they rather make money and not be called a snitch then there products need to pulled off the shelf. i may be afraid of retaliation but at least i did the right thing and got a criminal off the *** instead of keeping my mouth shut and let the loser go commit another crime because that is what these so called musicians are doing. money is more important to them and for people to be buying there music is also giving these criminals a free ride. Race has nothing to do with this issue, it is about rappers who think money is more important then maybe protecting another innocent person be a victim. this is showing the wrong message to people.
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by fatima13 August 13, 2007 7:12 PM EDT
It is so stupid for anyone to know a crime has been committed and they just keep quite. The next victim just might be someone you love! The criminals cycle in and out of the lockups/prisons and thinks that makes them a man. They may have been born a male, but they surely aren't men. A real man lifts up his community and does the best he can to improve his life. Get an education and get a real job instead of preying on others! Stop making excusing and blaming everyone else for your shortcomings. Including the white race in general and policemen specifically! No one owes anyone anything, and being poor financially and being born in the ghetto is no excuse to prey on anyone. Most of these criminals would swear they are Christians. Real Christians doesn't prey on others. They pray for them instead. There are plenty of black proud men doing good on many levels, for themselves and others. But there are far too many that love to drag the black community and others down. They are like a festering blister on the face/butt of the black race. You can turn criminals in to the police even without giving your name. Don't let these thugs brainwash you into helping them continue to ruin our communities! We all know that racist still exist, but that is no reason to let these nuts get away with destroying lives and neighborhoods. Help the families that has been torn apart by these fools. Your's might be next. Use your head and your heart, tell whatever you know.
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by mersc August 13, 2007 5:48 PM EDT
As a teacher in a mixed neighborhood, this report is very disturbing. Times are changing, but it seems that some want to continue to fight racism with racism (whites are the cause of all our problems). When a student walks into my classroom, ethnicity is noticed, but it does not drive what I do with that child. I have high academic and well behaved students, as well as poorly performing and poorly behaved students of all ethnic backgrounds. The biggest factor in how students do? Parent involvement and attitude. Period. Kids are influenced more by parents than anyone else. If kids see parents ignoring authority, or being flat out defiant, this translates into the school setting. Why should a child listen to a teacher if a parent is just going to sit back and complain about what a terrible and oppressive education system we have? Translation: No parent accountability. Magnet schools work because they demand parent involvement, not because there are better teachers or more money. My school receives way less money than others in a much poorer part of town. It is draining to try and teach with no parent support and kids very far behind. Out of a class of 20, a teacher said she was lucky to get 5 parents to a conference, and things like Open House were poorly attended as well. Contrast that to my school where all parents have come to conferences, and most everyone attends school events.
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by vlaw19 August 13, 2007 3:09 PM EDT
lunachick
you need to read a history book or two. then you would know that everytime blacks have tried to show some self respect, the white community has done all within its power,to stop it.

Who are you talking about? Your post shows your ignorance.
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by lunachick35 August 13, 2007 3:01 PM EDT
bluemule6, your ignorance is astounding, but i do agree we should've been able to segregate from all you ignorant whites who have always made life differcult for black people. it's having to live in your white world which has made us what we have become. since you have sooo much obvious time on your hands, you need to read a history book or two. then you would know that everytime blacks have tried to show some self respect, the white community has done all within its power,to stop it, you'd also know that most hiphop fans ARE white, and all the record companies are run by whites, and alln the gun companies are owned by whites, along with the airlines, and shipping companies which are transporting drugs into our communites, where you whites have no problem coming into our neighborhoods to get. i'd also like to tell you about the young man who being the only witnes to his brothers murder, asked repeatedly for police protection, and didnt get it. He was recently gunned down by one of the gunman while walking down the street in broad daylight. when rappers talk about not trusting police its because they have portrayed themselves in black communities like the biggest "GANG" in the u.s. one more thing, the most heinous crimes in american history have been committed by whites. Get it together, then preach.
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by keithle1 August 13, 2007 12:47 PM EDT
Lots of idiots on here posting rationalizations
& their stupid comments.

If you're black & you don't have a problem with young black men killing young black men then fine. I guess that's your business. Carry on.

Just save the "memorial" t-shirts, teddy bears, flowers, etc.
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by bluemule6 August 13, 2007 12:44 PM EDT
"You're funny, dude, the bars are to keep out anyone who might wish to come in uninvited, black white, or green." posted by brianbwb
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Interesting though that all the people in the white neighborhoods don't feel it necessary to have bars on their windows. Who do you think you are fooling here Brian? Me thinks you try to fool yourself!
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by bluemule6 August 13, 2007 12:40 PM EDT
"You may be surprised to learn that the numbers are not so different for "whites" of the same economic strata." posted by brianbwb
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True Brian but 60 percent of whites are not in that economic strata and lucky for you that they aren't for there would be no welfare checks to hand out to all you blacks!

Prejudice does not mean to prejudge. Blacks have been in the USA long enough that no prejudging is necessary. If blacks being 13 percent of the population commit most of the murders and violent crime in this nation one would have to be an IDIOT not to have a biased opinion of them. Assumptions about blacks are not needed, we have facts and evidence. The numbers I wrote were not exaggerated in the least either. Virtually every pathological behavior there is blacks are over represented, be it domestic violence, predatory violence, illiteracy, illegitimacy,transmission of AIDS, stealing, robbing and on and on.

Thanks for your pity. I'm touched.
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by brianbwb-2009 August 13, 2007 12:25 PM EDT
Posted by bluemule6

You're funny, dude, the bars are to keep out anyone who might wish to come in uninvited, black white, or green. Your statistics are wildly exaggerated, and even if I let you slide with that one, the public schools are incapable of educating anyone who attends, "Black" or "White", to the level necessary to even qualify for junior college. Who gutted the education budget? It wasn't "Black" people, dude.

"...From criminality/drugs to illiteracy and illegitimate children being born with no means of financial support."

You may be surprised to learn that the numbers are not so different for "whites" of the same economic strata.

"Prejudice towards blacks has nothing at all to do with skin color and everything to do with behavior"

"Prejudice" comes from the root "prejudge", which is a fool's game. You presume to know the behavior of people you've never met, because of their ethnic heritage, therefore you disrespect me for no real reason. I pity you...
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by bluemule6 August 13, 2007 11:33 AM EDT
brianbwb, All the bars on the windows in the black "communities" around the nation, are they there to keep out blacks or to keep out whites?

I know you don't want to be like me brianbwb. That is obvious. The behavioral differences between blacks and whites when it comes to ethics is crystal clear. Prejudice towards blacks has nothing at all to do with skin color and everything to do with behavior. Almost half of all black students don't even finish high school. What kind of life can you expect to have then? The biggest enemy of blacks are blacks themselves. Too many of you engage in self destructive behavior that causes your own poverty. From criminality/drugs to illiteracy and illegitimate children being born with no means of financial support. It seems that blacks enjoy their poverty based on the behaviors that so many freely engage in. 50% of black males in Washington DC are either in prison, on parole or probation. This, in a city with black cops, black police chief and black mayor. How do you blame whitey for that brianbwb? Your blame game is nothing but denial.
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by brianbwb-2009 August 13, 2007 11:22 AM EDT
"I am a white dude and thier tellen me that if I go bust a cap in Busta'a *** or Killa Cam s *** in front of thier entourages, in public...thier not going to snitch!!!!" Posted by ruraldweller

No they wouldn't snitch, they would probably riddle you with so many bullets that the Grim reaper would look at the mass of hamburger that used to be your sorry carcass, and say "Da*n..."
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by brianbwb-2009 August 13, 2007 11:14 AM EDT
bluemule6,

You would be more correct to say that "Black" people don't want to live down to the hypocrisy of those that think that skin color has anything at all to do with morality, when the president has mass murdered close to half a million innocent people for an oil grab, and his sycophants think it proper, when police set up their own mafia territories in the 'hoods, when the economic system set up by "whites" says "you have to have money to survive, but we are going to keep you unemployed, or under employed, no matter what your education level, unless you become like us".

There are those of us that simply don't want to be "like you". Live with it, or die with it, because you are never going to change it.
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by bluemule6 August 13, 2007 10:56 AM EDT
Anderson Cooper makes a very strong case for why blacks should be segregated. If a large part of the black "community" will not report crime, no matter how serious, what does this tell you about the black population? To have a murder happen in front of dozens of black witnesses and none will come forward? This tells me that blacks have no desire at all to be part of mainstream America and that they are either unable or unwilling to live up to the moral standards of mainstream America. White people do not deserve to be subjected to all this predatory violence nor do we deserve to have our urban areas lawless crime zones where we have to fear for our safety due to all the black predators. Blacks have been given their opportunity but this opportunity will not last forever. Whites simply will not tolerate this perpetual black crime spree forever.
Blacks are only 13 percent of the population yet they kill more whites every year than whites kill blacks. If blacks want their predators to run free in their neighborhoods that is their problem. Let them be segregated then and live their pathetic existence in isolation.
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