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by hermit22 January 21, 2007 6:46 AM EST
olemiss85, is it "slanderous" of you to lump me in with David Duke etc.?

you don't seem like a very fair minded person to me. it is like you are willing to protect what ever nasty behavior there was, and your describti0on of that frat party was alot worse than i expected.
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by hermit22 January 21, 2007 6:41 AM EST
how can the jury come up with a true verdict if the lawyers and witnesses don't tell the truth?
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by hermit22 January 21, 2007 6:40 AM EST
if old Ben really said its better for 100 guilty to escape justice rather than 1 innocent be mistakenly confined etc. I think Old Ben was NUTS!

maybe thats why you can't walk down the street in many places and be safe because people actually believe what old Ben may have said!
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by hermit22 January 21, 2007 6:36 AM EST
Olemiss85: "there is no greater injustice than for an innocent man to be found guilty of a crime he did not commit"

why wouldn't that be EQUAL to the injustice of NOT finding the guilty for a crime he did commit?
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by hermit22 January 21, 2007 6:30 AM EST
olemiss85, pardon me, if you really can't admit that their frathouse behavior is in poor taste at least, how could you have an open mind, a fair mind about this case in general?
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by hermit22 January 21, 2007 6:26 AM EST
Olemiss85, if the behavior at a stripe party is what you described,and if those boys went there for that, those boys are not innocent little choir boys.

in a 1000 years i don't think that sort of behaviour is "innocent". they are like dirty old men, only younger. what is really crazy about this, is how many people may think this is "normal" behavior.
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by hermit22 January 21, 2007 6:19 AM EST
Olemiss85, i thought of that. but i was innocent. the frat house might be innocent of rape, but they did put themselves in a questionable situation. They DID. I already thought of the difference. The frat house WAS into something nasty.they were acting like jackasses. walking down the street IS innocent. drinking and setting up a strip party is not. it may be legal, but it is not innocent.
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by olemiss85 January 21, 2007 5:24 AM EST
There is nothing allowed by law or society that justifies a person to be robbed against there will or accused falsely of a crime they did not committ.

Posted by olemiss85 at 01:43 AM : Jan 21, 2007
forgive me, it is late. I meant "their" not "there" in my blog above. I am certain "there" are other grammtical and spellingesque errors pesent. Please judge the content and not the prose. Thank you. Olemiss85
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by olemiss85 January 21, 2007 5:22 AM EST
And the First Amenment exists so you can say what you think so long as your speech is not designed to incite physical harm or retribution. No matter how dumb, lame, illogical, indefensible and ..just plain stupid it is. I once commented in a politcal science class that I wish the KKK could't obtain permits to march in public. My professor quite correctly said "oh no, we are better for it. For then we can keep an eye on those who espout hatred and anger. In this way, we who are trully freedom loving people , know who to protect ourselves from..." Knowing that the functionally illiterates of the world are here blogging away idiotically, making their ignorance known for all to see, makes us a stronger and safer society. I would rather see the Black Panthers march and the David Dukes rant and the Hermies get it continually wrong, than have them lurk in the dark of the night, undetected and unfettered in promulgating their messages of hate, discord and/or ignorance , so that peaceful freedom loving citizens know who not to allow on juries and who not to vote for.
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by olemiss85 January 21, 2007 5:07 AM EST
do you think more people would trust "the law" if the lawyers insisted on the truth no matter how ugly, rather than doing what ever it takes to win a case?
Posted by Hermit22 at 08:17 PM : Jan 20, 2007
A criminal attorney's duty is represent his client zealously and hold the State responsible for proving an accused's guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. A prosecutor's job is to bring charges warranted by competent evidence and to dismiss a case when such does not exist. A jury's job is to render a verdict. Verdict is from Latin which means "to speak the truth". 90% to 95% of all cases are pleas because for the most part the state arrests the correct person. There is no greater injustice than for an innocent man to be found guilty of a crime he did not commit. The small number of cases that go to trial put the state to the test to make sure that this does not occur. In most every other legal system in the world, the burden of proving the case is on the defendant. Right or wrong it is the system we have. I choose to believe that living in a free society, that our system, flawed because humans are involved, is the best and that our founding fathers got it right. The fourth fifth and sixth amendments are there to protect us from false accusations and over zealous prosecutors. And remember this... "it is better [one hundred] guilty Persons should escape(justice) than that one innocent Person should suffer." Benjamin Franklin
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