Comments on: Exposing The Truth Of Abu Ghraib

Anderson Cooper Interviews Whistleblower Joe Darby

I very much hope that Colin Englebach does not speak for the VFW. Tonight on 60 Minutes he burned the American Flag and made a mockery of the hundreds of thousands of men and women who are risking and often giving their lives to protect all of our freedoms. Shameful. Fascistic. Scary.

If anyone wants to contact either the post or Colin Engelbach they can do so directly:

Henry Hart Post No. 1411
Commander Colin A. Engelbach
Meets: 205 Union Street
Cumberland, MD 21502
301-722-4353 (seems not to be working)
Fax [phone]
Meets:1st Tuesday at 7:00 P.M.


Colin Engelbach
Phone : [phone]
704 Shriver,
Cumberland MD 21502-1443

[themartyred]

Firstmarc - shuddup and quit reinforcing the very strong new stereotype that all military guys are dumbarses who love to torture and beat people to their deaths, stick things in war prisoners' sons arses, take pictures of it all and put it on CD's for KICKS!

SHAME ON YOU GET SOME THERAPY - war is HELL, and war should only be perpetrated when ABSOLUTELY necessary - this invasion was a farce, and it's put a lot of idiots in powerful situations where they enjoy raping little boys and taking picture, pissing on people religious books (Quran sp?), and a general disrespect for life that we are SUPPOSED to be defending, but we use the cry of "but they don't respect life"... what a coward approach.

[lonetreein]

Mr. Darby did what a soldier should do. Mr Darby should be rewarded for his actions, not villainized.

Mr. Darby has held up what soldiering is truely about.

"The soldier, be he friend or foe, is charged with the protection of the weak and unarmed. It is the very essence and reason for his being. When he violates this sacred trust, he not only profanes his entire cult but threatens the very fabric of international society. The traditions of fighting men are long and honorable. They are based upon the noblest of human traits - sacrifice (General of the Army Douglas MacArthur).

Mr. Darby you have sacrificed greatly because of your honorable action. Ameracia and all of humanity owes you their gratitutde.

[fixitdamnit]

Yeah, Darby did the right thing. But those who equate a pyramid of naked men with gas chambers, beheadings, genocide, and mass extermination are lowlife scumbag slanderers.

[kenjacobsen1]

I've always wondered how the German people could have been willing to turn a blind eye to Nazi atrocities and whether something like that could happen here in the USA today. Now that I've seen how the people of Cumberland have behaved I now know it can.

[donnie900]

The thing you gotta remember about Abu Graib is that exactly what Bush and all them others say what they're not doing is what happened. That is: getting politics involved in the general's job. The White House was pressured into finding results in the war, and they translated that pressure onto some lowly enlisted men and women (who are now in prison btw) to produce political (not strategic, or tactical... political) results. And thats the real crime here.

And I'm not turning it into politics. It was politics already. If it weren't politics it would never have happened in the first place. And frankly, politics is to blame for the whole war. Exactly what Bush claims "he doesn't want to do", when it comes to the war.

[donnie900]

I'da told on them too. Course I was Air Force. I tell on everybody..

[ambonia]

I want Joe Darby to know that there are many of us out here in the world who commend what he did. I am so sorry to hear that some of his and his wife's family's members did not understand...perpahs one day they will.

You make me proud the be a fellow American when I hear of someone like you and what you stood up for.
And because you did the right thing, the rest of your life will work in in time. Thank you.

[shelbyddog]

In a time when I have had concerns as to the moral fiber and direction in which our generational changes appear to be changing, this story has given me a wonderful feeling as I entertain a story about a true hero, as much of a hero as one can be by simply doing the right thing and reflecting the values I have always been proud to consider "American". It is truly tragic that he has had to pay such a price and endure so much discomfort and danger as a result, but, it sounds as if he still has a healthy outlook and continues to be a hero.

[des1961]

Joe Darby did the right thing-period. He is an example of what an American soldiers is suppose to stand for, a person of honor and courage. I see people making comments like, "its war, there are no rules." That is nonsense. It may be war, but there are rules, namely the UCMJ-The Uniform Code of Military Justice, and the rules established by the Geneva Convention. The 7 idiots who were convicted got what they deserve. They broke the law. And as for the folks back in Cumberland, I have only one question. What the heck is wrong with you?

[bellebelle22]

I am disgusted and outraged about this. I don't understand a society that says it's ok to humiliate another human being in the way those MP's did. Even if they were told to "Soften" the prisoners I don't believe they were told to pile them on each other and take photos. That was for there own sick amusement.

I am even more disgusted with the fact that this man was shunned by his friends and own family, because he served his country in the manner he was taught by our own armed services. He can never go back to his hometown, so it looks like he is going to be in prison for the rest of his life, for doing the right thing. I don't believe the 7 acused are going to be in jail for the rest of their lives.

I am proud of Mr Darby and he stands for the integrity that this nation was built on.

[cysciborg]

What truly is IRONIC is, that the UCMJ is used only when they want to. and if or if they dont choose to, it is still protected under international law, in that, IF it is a country, and they use a so-called judicial system, and have a system of sanctions, used or not. they are not able to fall under the jurisdiction of international criminal court. also, there is no reporting system for Genevia, and the HRC of UN is also unable to touch american war criminals. so, whats wrong with us ? we have no accountability in UN or Genevia or ICC !

[des1961]

Joe Darby did the right thing-period. He is an example of what an American soldiers is suppose to stand for, a person of honor and courage. I see people making comments like, "its war, there are no rules." That is nonsense. It may be war, but there are rules, namely the UCMJ-The Uniform Code of Military Justice, and the rules established by the Geneva Convention. The 7 idiots who were convicted got what they deserve. They broke the law. And as for the folks back in Cumberland, I have only one question. What the heck is wrong with you?

[des1961]

Joe Darby did the right thing-period. He is an example of what an American soldiers is suppose to stand for, a person of honor and courage. I see people making comments like, "its war, there are no rules." That is nonsense. It may be war, but there are rules, namely the UCMJ-The Uniform Code of Military Justice, and the rules established by the Geneva Convention. The 7 idiots who were convicted got what they deserve. They broke the law. And as for the folks back in Cumberland, I have only one question. What the heck is wrong with you?

[des1961]

Joe Darby did the right thing-period. He is an example of what an American soldiers is suppose to stand for, a person of honor and courage. I see people making comments like, "its war, there are no rules." That is nonsense. It may be war, but there are rules, namely the UCMJ-The Uniform Code of Military Justice, and the rules established by the Geneva Convention. The 7 idiots who were convicted got what they deserve. They broke the law. And as for the folks back in Cumberland, I have only one question. What the heck is wrong with you?

[cysciborg]

Joseph Darby, IS Truly a HERO ! In that he came forward with the "Truth"! however, what is not so different, is, that over 40 years ago, I came forward, and told of "War Crimes" and, "Gross Violations of International Law". the response I got was, the "Brig", with 3 days of bread and water. In one situation, all I did was to say, "Did you see that"! . Then I got the brig, and an ongoing special duty statis. until the day when one of the NCOs' Drunk, tried to kill me. well, he was unable to do so, as the fat boy was a little slow, and drunk. all I could claim was self defense. without result. now, the thing I saw, was an American Military Person, Shoved out the door of a helicopter, over the south china sea. by, American Military staff.
This was one of so many I couldn't, or just gave up counting. now, Jos. Darby, is a little luckier than I. as I ended up exiting the military, with documents signed that I would "Never", write, talk, or disclose any information about the entire time I was in the military, under threat of 21 years in federal military prison. "IF", not just Killed.
Oh, I got late night calls, drunken Heros' with threat to burn down house, with me and wife and kids in the house. or a variety of threats.
So, how many hundred, or thousands of G.I.s' know truths, and dont, or cant come forward ?

[shelbyddog]

In a time when I have had concerns as to the moral fiber and direction in which our generational changes appear to be changing, this story has given me a wonderful feeling as I entertain a story about a true hero, as much of a hero as one can be by simply doing the right thing and reflecting the values I have always been proud to consider "American". It is truly tragic that he has had to pay such a price and endure so much discomfort and danger as a result, but, it sounds as if he still has a healthy outlook and continues to be a hero.

[lirase38]

My God Mr.Anderson Cooper: It seems to me that the obvious question to Mr. Darby was What do you think of the comment of that home commander, "he is a traitor" and the non existent morality of his own town members, and of many people in this country. Welcome to Rome before its fall!!! I feel sick and continue to feel shocked at how different are other human beings in this world. I hope you Mr. Darby and your wife are well for a long, long time. I wish you both the BEST.
Sergio Lira

[lawstudent4]

joseph darby did the right thing. the problem with the supporters of the soldiers who got caught is that they all seem to not understand that the reason the soldiers went to jail is not because joseph darby turned them in, it's because they broke the law. soldiers are not above the law. if the situation was reversed and photos of the same abuse happening to american prisoners inflicted by iraqi soldiers would be met with outrage in this country. america is populated with hypocrits and i hope that more people who are interested in justice and doing the right thing, like joseph darby, will soon make up the majority of our armed forces and not sadistic bullies who think they are above everything that is decent in the world.

[ruairdhe]

What Graner and the others did was incite the enemy into retaliation that soldiers who weren't even involved in the situation had to pay for with their lives. Darby showed his ethics in doing the right thing. I would hire him in a heartbeat.