Comments on: Unlikely Terrorists On No Fly List

Steve Kroft Reports List Includes President Of Bolivia, Dead 9/11 Hijackers

[random_radar]

And Donna Bucella should be put on a list of people barred from working in any government capacity, too.

[hissteps4u]

I fly monthly and am on the list.

It is bothersome that the government cant fix those of us they have come to know and fly frequently cant get off the list because of a similar name.

I have gotten use to delays and phone calls across the country as they try to figure out if I am carrying a Bomb or shoe laces.

For the Government to not be able to correct on the fly the National Do Not Fly List in this day and age of Technology is a farce in my view. I do not blame bush at all for this. I blame congress for its pitiful way it conducts itself.

I simply know to tell the ticket agent in advance that I am on the List and wait my turn to get cleared. The price we pay for our freedom.

I am not upset just wish that they could get their act together.

[hissteps4u]

The List is what it is. I am on the list. I fly every month or so and each and every time I know with a certainty that my name is flagged and I am pulled aside.

Fortunately I simply let them know up front that I am on the list and hand all my documentation to them up front. I have never been striped searched and within about 10-15 minutes after they make the call I am usually allowed to get my ticket and move along.

It is amost a joke now. Sad to think that they cant or wont fix those who are like me not out to bring down a plane cant get off the list but it is the nature of flying now adays.

Interestingly enough when I fly out of country I am not held up at all and allowed to move freely through the flight process.

Guess I am not on an INternational Terroriest List thankfully.

[random_radar]

I am on the no-fly list, and it really is me that they don't want to fly. When I show up at the airport, I have to talk to a security official and beg to get on a plane.

I am a white, middle-aged, middle class man born and raised in the USA. I have never committed a crime or even been arrested. I assure you that I have done nothing worthy of being called a terrorist.

Except that I pay cash to buy plane tickets, fly one-way in my consulting business, and take flights at the last minute due to emergencies. So I am considered a likely terrorist. Never mind the fact that real terrorists might be smart enough to buy round-trip tickets with a credit card more than a week in advance.

Or maybe they have figured out who I am from what I write on these blogs?

[sigotratando]

One of the mantras for safeguarding the American people from terrorist attacks is "connect the dots." So while I have no problem with the government's having a list, I have a huge problem not cross-referencing other lists. In the example of this Reynolds guy - - - is he locked up? If he is, I would say that he's other lists that bear upon the status of the No Fly list. Does the Robert Johnson who "will never get off the list" (as the creator of the No Fly list, Bucella, said) have a Social Security number and other corroborating documentation of his identity that gets checked and re-checked every time to allow him eventual passage onto a flight? Is this not recorded on that list or some other relevant list to keep our government TSA employees from wasting money checking the same guy over and over again? Where the hell are the dots supposedly being connected? We have our passports stamped with a seal as we come through the gates as official notice that the document has been inspected and passed - - - come on administration, apply a few more brain cells to the problem.

[paddycmnt]

As to the listing the names of the 911 hijackers, sounds like a good idea to me. I think MORE names of dead terrorists should be added!

At first glance it may appear stupid. But, what better way to bypass security than to use a name that everyone has removed from their lists!

I do not believe every "security agent" will remember EVERY name that has been associated with terror. I think NOT!

[chicatibu]

This is the problem with our government, rather than use common sense they go to the extreme. There%u2019s no way for homeland security to manage a no-fly list of 44,000 people also there is no need. The excesses practiced by homeland security aren%u2019t as much for security as they are a power grab. Giving one agency that much power was a mistake.

[mac2499-2009]

If the goverment can not produce an accurate no fly list then how can it expect to win a war? They don't want to provide a true list because they are afraid that it might fall into enemy hands. Well if you decided to hire and pay a good salary to the people that work in airports instead of outsourcing to private companies maybe there would be no problem. This goverment spews out disinformation and misinformation. I love it. I can wait for the Republicans to continue to govern. They make politics that much more fun. Please Americans vote for your republican candidate. Sure they make mistakes, but they are more fun than Democrats and they know how to run a country.(Into the Ground)

[chriscarlos]

If people who are living are on the list the terrorists win.

Don't we love it when stories like these are on local television news and a person or two has their name taken off the list? These people are so un-American! Take one [annoyance] for the U.S. of A!

I often like hearing about members of congress being stopped. Thank God we live in the land of the free, and home of the brave. (But please don't bring more than 4 ounces of shampoo on a flight. We need don't want you to get carried away; we are free, but not that free.)

[gladetryst]

Isn't that convenient, they can arrest just about anyone they want who they don't like - just because they have a name? That is a wonderful crime to commit, your parents named you the wrong thing. I'm not saying the current government would do that, but what about the next people. What if they don't like a Robert Johnson? He's a "suspected terrorist", lets arrest him and try him before a military tribunal, torture him in Guanatanamo. Good idea guys!

[popeface]

*23 September 2006: An Indianapolis man was arrested after police found a significant amount of hazardous chemicals, along with a gas mask and printed bomb making instructions. Also found were al-Qaeda documents and literature about Saddam Hussein, stated Captain Phil Burton of the Marion County Sheriff's Department. The suspect, identified as Joseph BAGLEY, admitted to mixing several chemicals in his northside apartment near 96th and College streets and using a gas mask while doing so.

4 October 2006: The US Attorney%u2019s office and the FBI announced yesterday that a federal grand jury issued a 6-count indictment against Michael Curtis REYNOLDS, 47, formerly of Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania, for his role in trying to assist al Qaeda in conducting terrorist attacks on U.S. soil. REYNOLDS was charged with:

-Two counts of attempting to provide material support to al-Qaeda;

-One count of soliciting to use explosives to destroy natural gas pipeline facilities.

-One count of distributing information through the Internet regarding explosive devices with the intent that the information be used for, and in furtherance of, a federal crime of violence;

-Two counts of illegally possessing hand grenades.

http://www.homelandsecurityus.com/site/modules/news/

[popeface]

Michael Curtis REYNOLDS....doesnt sound middle eastern to me.......Maybe its a name form the northern end of Pakistan.....

I agree that we should pay extra close attention to Middle eastern people, esp. Muslims.....but we should also be aware that we do have traitors in this country and I would gladly submit myself to be searched every time I got an airplane if they found me suspicious in the least, heck I would even miss my flight for it.

After everything the USA has done for me and the rest of the world it is the least I can do for it.

[popeface]

DONT RULE IT OUT.

4 October 2006: The US Attorney%u2019s office and the FBI announced yesterday that a federal grand jury issued a 6-count indictment against Michael Curtis REYNOLDS, 47, formerly of Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania, for his role in trying to assist al Qaeda in conducting terrorist attacks on U.S. soil. REYNOLDS was charged with:

-Two counts of attempting to provide material support to al-Qaeda;

-One count of soliciting to use explosives to destroy natural gas pipeline facilities.

-One count of distributing information through the Internet regarding explosive devices with the intent that the information be used for, and in furtherance of, a federal crime of violence;

-Two counts of illegally possessing hand grenades.

http://www.homelandsecurityus.com/site/modules/news/

[logoff1]

The no-fly list is another unconstitutional apparatus used by this government. In a truly free society, you have the right to trial prior to being deemed guilty of a crime. Most people on no-fly lists are only on the list at the government's whim. I would hope that if we really suspected someone of terrorism, that we would try (and convict) them in a court of law instead of just preventing them from flying.

[bobearlbrown]

I don't know why when we all have a social security number we can't manage to get off one of these lists. Am I supposed to change my name just because I have a common name? Robert Brown

[clestes-2009]

Another example of how this administration can screw up. Homeland security is a joke. And we are asked to give up our rights to privacy by the same goofups as are protecting the airlines.

And they wonder why we object?

It does not surprise me at all that this administration thinks Indiana is first on the list of states that have the highest risk of a terror attack. They are about that dumb.

[pendragon679]

This is typical of our Homeland Security. We've become really, really good at preventing the last attack, but where are the people who are truly looking ahead to the NEXT attack? Does anyone really think the next attack is going to be another 9/11-style crash-an-airliner-into-a-building affair? These people aren't stupid; they know we're going to be watching for that. As for the no-fly list, I'm not in the least surprised. Actually, I'm more surprised that "John Smith" isn't on the no-fly list.