Comments on: Unlikely Terrorists On No Fly List

Steve Kroft Reports List Includes President Of Bolivia, Dead 9/11 Hijackers

[donnie900]

As an American, I have no quandaries with allowing my government the access to do all my security for me. There is no lack of liberty. There is no lack of freedom. It is not a violation of rights. So long as there is an equal and opposite effect with oversight.

There should be no private interest in security. That is godfather bs.

[donnie900]

You see how incompatible private companies are with security? Do you see? Do you understand? Libertarians out there are unintended terrorist supporters, by banning the giver of your social security number from social security. A private company can't help from being private. In essence, its a "security casino" .. based on suspicious access. Its like the differences between civics and consumerism were a schziophrenic Dr. Jekyl and Mr. Hyde. The same person but never knowing one another, and afraid of one another.

[why_not_nar]

Steve,

I am sorry. This time you got it wrong. Are there data issues with the 'no fly list'?, undoubtedly. Does that cause problems?, sure.

Steve, I believe you may be aware that the biggest threat to the country remains the terrorist ability to import and build a nuclear weapon. These very people on that list have been attempting that for ten to twenty years. The same terrorists that bombed the world trade center in 1993, turned up again in 2001.

Do I want to be 'strip searched' at the airport? , certainly not. But i still prefer that to what existed prior to 2001, no list at all.

If you are intent on 'embarrassing' government officials, there are many places to turn, start with those who opened and run a jail in Cuba, that is there, because our President is afraid to subject the men we have arrested to the American Law system.

Please let us know when the list is repaired. Of course, it should be as accurate as possible.

[gregorio12-2009]

Who would really be comfortable flying if that list did not exist?
Not me!
People should quit their whining and be grateful!
I feel bad for the people who have to go through extra security.So go early you should be used to it by now.
44,000 checks not to have a repeat of 9/11 is worth it!Ask the families of the victims!

[buddyandmom]

I can't believe it. Some of these names on the 'No Fly List' ARE really common names. So common that I actually know two people with two of the names mentioned in this piece. I went to high school with a Susan Becker at Buena Park High (class of 1976) in Orange County Ca. I now live in Riverside County, Ca. (right next to Orange County) where I have a friend with the name of Robert Johnson ! These two people ARE NOT terroriests by any means. This is unbelievable. Now I'm wondering and want to know if anyone can tell me with 100% accuracy that MY name won't at some time be associated with either of my friend's names ? Will this nightmare of inefficient incompetence and ineffective methods and of policy ever end ?

[jahamilton1]

My husband's name is on one of these lists. He is in no way affiliated with any terrorist organizations, but his name happens to match someone who apparently belongs on the list. Until recently, this only meant that he was inconvenienced at airports, like many other people. Now, it's keeping him from working. He recently got a job at Home Depot, but when they did a background check, his name came up as a suspected terrorist. It's been two weeks now, and they still haven't cleared it up.

I'm all for homeland security, but isn't there a way we can be secure without preventing ordinary US citizens from getting jobs?

[dreagleeyes]

Another very very common name on the list.... David Nelson. There was an article in the paper a few weeks about it just after the list was made. While I have never been strip searched, I have had delays of a few hours. It has gotten to where I go in three hours before any flight and then just pray I can get through security and not miss the flight.

[lbutts1]

I was outraged and felt my blood pressure rising at every point of this story: $144 million dollars and "nothing tangible yet," 44,000 names on a no-fly list, including 9/11 terrorists that have been dead for 5 years (it makes me feel really confident about the accuracy of the rest), Americans forever doomed to be detained and delayed because their name matches that used by a terrorist and because our government has been inept since 9/11 to determine how to handle such things and CYAers on the US Government payroll who are running this bottomless pit of incompetence. Another 20 minutes of this and I would have had to call the rescue squad. Here is my solution to one of the problems: Pass legislation that states that the head of the Transportation Security Administration will ALWAYS have his/her name on the no-fly list and must use public transportation when traveling by air. I suspect the Robert Johnsons of the world would see some relief within weeks.

[clydeharris]

Duh what perception 5?

To paraphrase what Mark Twain once said, Wahington is an asylum and the inmates are running it. This is an example of getting what you paid for, incompetence on a large scale and growing.

Clyde Harris

[robimon]

my name is rob adams and i am on the no fly list. i have tried for the last two years to get off....to no avail. as a traveling businessman, it is slowly killing my desire to work.

I think the correct descriptive acronym for this is:

SNAFU

!

[mwe3wm]

We are so proud of you hissteps4u. Carrying the burden of freedom for all of us.

If we had more people like you on the list, the check in lines at the airport would go so much faster.

All of you heroes would just step out of line being so brave and selfless while you pay for our freedom.

Thanks again.

Oh by the way, your attitude is what%u2019s allows a corrupt or inept government to succeed in making policy that cause all of us to loose our freedoms..

Michael Edwards
Texas

[grazinggoat]

Well Done G.Walking-LiarBush, you have succeded to instill fear in the heart of Americans. If this is what freedom means for you, well, we don't want it... We want real freedom, we don't want the witch hunt type of freedom as it's been well said by jw218389.

[zlocke]

hissteps4u, to watch you say:

"I simply know to tell the ticket agent in advance that I am on the List and wait my turn to get cleared. The price we pay for our freedom."

is just so counter-intuitive that I had to register to point it out.

What you're saying is that taking away our freedom to freely circulate the country until we prove that we're not someone on a arbitrarily created government list is the price we have to pay for freedom. That is, of course, ridiculous and our founding fathers are probably rolling in their graves right now.

Let's be clear about what we're trading--freedom for a little bit of temporary safety.

Now don't get me wrong. I like safety, but I don't favor the idea of putting myself in a jail cell because I might get myself killed in a car accident.

-z

[zlocke]

hissteps4u, to watch you say:

"I simply know to tell the ticket agent in advance that I am on the List and wait my turn to get cleared. The price we pay for our freedom."

is just so counter-intuitive that I had to register to point it out.

What you're saying is that taking away our freedom to freely circulate the country until we prove that we're not someone on a arbitrarily created government list is the price we have to pay for freedom. That is, of course, ridiculous and our founding fathers are probably rolling in their graves right now.

Let's be clear about what we're trading--freedom for a little bit of temporary safety.

Now don't get me wrong. I like safety, but I don't favor the idea of putting myself in a jail cell because I might get myself killed in a car accident.

-z

[jw218389]

Is Mark Foley on the "No Open Fly List?" :-)

[jw218389]

I suspect, as was the case with so-called "Red Scare" that anyone that opposes the GOP is on the No-Fly List... I know many Move-On.org members who have been banned despite being otherwise OUTSTANDING Americans....

Can anyone say," political witch hunt?"

BUSH Hater= Supporter of The Bill of Rights = No Fly List! God save America from Bush!!

[perception5]

blah blah blah ........ big deal if the names are still on the list......... maybe old Steve is working off an old list........ I think we should be more concerned if the names WEREN'T on the list........ better safe than sorry. CBS why don't you have Steve work on something more important........ like ........ find out what classified secrets Sandy Berger stuffed in his pants and shirts...... that had to do with 9/11....... and why he stole them..... and what did they say.......... OH YEAH stupid me ......he's a DEM and exempt from questioning.

[bmlott27]

hissteps4u: How do you blame congress for this rather than the executive branch? It is the responsiblilty of the executive to execute administrative functions. That's why they call it the "executive".

Though I'm not a Bush fan, I don't blame Bush for this one - its beneath his pay grade, so-to-speak. The real responsibility lies with the heads of the CIA, FBI, etc.

The only role that congress plays here is for funding (which they clearly did, to the tune of $144 million according to the article) and oversight, which they have NOT done since Bush has been elected.

However, blaming the congress for lack of oversight is alot like blaming a referee for not calling a foul. The player is responsible for the foul, not the ref.

At least if all of the poles are right we might have a new set of refs in Washington that might call a few more fouls.

[lsl_belt]

I have recognized different groups of terrorist taking pictures with digtal devices at our downtown tunnel shopping areas and major energy buildings in downtown Houston,Texas. As an American I notified authorities, and home land security. The terriost are posing as Tourist, some Middle Eastern looking and Russian dialects.

Please let me know how citzen can best help the Public.

Sincerely,
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