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- What is going on with Andy Rooney, why is he no longer on the Sunday program?
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- The Vatican Archives Website is below for anyone interested:
http://asv.vatican.va/en/visit/p_nob/p_nob.htm - Reply to this comment
- 4midnight,
i used to be there.......i think you see thru catholic glasses. - Reply to this comment
- 4midnight,
we are from 2 different catholic churches.
apparently, we both believe what we believe.
i found no truth in the catholic church, just self serving humans.
i am at peace with what god has created and what god is. - Reply to this comment
- seems the sort of treasure that should be on the web. for once, i have reason to envy the pope and those who might be able to comprehend such documents.
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- Good presentation.
However, the Vatican has a long history of oppressing thought, opinion, and policy.
The priests that came with the conquista destroyed many cultures and created many half breeds with class struggles that is promenent in Latin America along with forced baptisms of Jews in Spain. They destroyed the ancient history of the Maya with mass burnings.
They took the gold, conquered, raped and baptized....in Jesus's name...I think not.
And then the diseases they brought along with the rats, destroyed the Aztec civilization. - Reply to this comment
- Librarians, curators, and preservationists alike drew a horrified gasp. Why would a national news organization and the Vatican library show rare documents being handled? Many of us have spent years trying to educate our patrons about the damage oil from the hands can do to documents. Shame on you. It is enough of a travesty that this wealth of information is not available to the world at large, but when we see on national television that those entrusted with its care and preservation can't even be bothered to don gloves, it makes me wonder what (if any)preservation/archive education they have and why they are even allowed near these treasures?
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- 4midnight,
there are many gospels.
only certain ones made it to the pulpit....not judas, or mary magdelanes.
..........and some were actually rewritten to suit the popes........
do some investigating. don't be afraid to learn. you won't go to hell.
elizabeth - Reply to this comment
- 4midnight,
you are free to believe what you want and understand god from your own experience, and not just take someone else's word about 'god'.
so are the rest of us...... WITHOUT THE THREAT OF ETERNAL DAMNATION.
i grew up as catholic as one could get without being a nun.
yes, we cried for the pagan babies and did painful things to offer to god for their damned souls.
damned only because someone didn't baptise them to the catholic faith.
yes, their was limbo............and purgatory............everyone would spend time there.......the fires of hell... but not forever.
the priests were treated like gods.............
the parishoners were their servants, hence the abuses.
that 'god made everything' was the first sentence i heard about god.
i saw trees, animals,the wind and sun...wonderful things!
it went radically downhill from there.........original sin, penance, mortal sins for eating meat on friday, verbal and physical abuses by nuns and priests..............not all........
a few knew what was going on was wrong but couldn't stand up to defend even themselves.
and then there's all that money, all those donations and collection plates............real estate, businesses, banks ,art, political deals, tax exemptions, legal deals, the libraries, 'all the treasures' and much more.
no one needs this church to honor god and follow jesus.
this is just another very human, self-serving, well established,group of power hungry humans.............
the priests were almost giddy about 'their' treasures.
it's the wolf posing as god's messenger.
nothing new about humans.
no wonder they've been hesitant to flaunt their possessions.
elizabeth - Reply to this comment
- While for the most part I enjoyed your episode last night on the Vatican Library, I was disturbed that, unless I missed a fleeting reference, not once did you mention the Vatican's collection of Hebrew manuscripts. The Vatican Library has a vast collection of these manuscripts and has been forthcoming about making them available to scholars. At the same time, since much of this collection was originally acquired through compulsion and with the goals of missionary activity and censorship, they raise important issues concerning the historical relationship between Jews and Christians.
The episode also asserts that the collection contains about two million printed books "Christian and pagan, sacred and profane." This statement elides recent Vatican statements toward Jews and Judaism. I think that if asked today, most if not all Vatican officials would say that the Jewish manuscripts are both "Jewish" and "sacred." Your story thus misses an opportunity to at least mention the seismic shift that has occurred even in the last decade in the church's stance toward Judaism. - Reply to this comment
