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Were Two Teenagers Cold-Blooded Killers?

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by robertj325 September 17, 2007 2:56 PM EDT
eyecolor,

The fact that these guys confessed is one thing. If they were truly innocent, they''d never confess to ANYONE. nuff said.

Also, when confessing to the undercover cops they actually talked about killing the younger sister and laughing how she "kept getting up". If this isn''t damning evidence, I don''t know what is. Especially for Atif to laugh at his own sister...DESPICABLE!!

And for Atif to notice that his VCR and discman was missing after his family was bludgeoned to death????...come on!!

These morons thought they were smart. But obviously they''re not. I hope they rot in hell.


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by eyecolor-2009 September 17, 2007 7:25 AM EDT
I know we want to believe that, because Sebastian Burns is so creepy, he must be guilty. We want to believe that the judicial system (and television too, for that matter) is infallible, that we are safe, that justice prevails, that mistakes are never made. But as the slew of exonerations based on DNA evidence has proven in recent years -- lots and lots mistakes are made all the time. People just like yourselves are convinced absolutely of the guilt of innocents. That has been proven.... and often (but not often enough) remedied.

Yes, listening to your gut is a good thing, but at the same time I implore you all not to rely on hunches alone. The judicial system, arguably the best in the world (despite frequent miscarriages of justice) relies on reason. Reason. You must use reason too.

The plain fact is, the prosecution convinced themselves and jury of a logical impossibility (one among several): Only two people committed the murder, while at the same time it was determined that, without a doubt and no argument, three people participated in the killings. But courts don''t require logic -- they require the determination of a jury. The jury was willing to convict even though the boys'' guilt was factually impossible.

The real tragedy is that the killers (who were fingered by the FBI but ignored by the Bellevue police) are STILL out there.
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by jjd2007 September 17, 2007 3:45 AM EDT
I agree about these guys seeing The Lion King also.
Very odd.
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by eyecolor-2009 September 17, 2007 1:39 AM EDT
Beware mob mentality. Please read facts of the case first at http://www.rafayburnsappeal.com/ .

Ask yourself why there would be a large defense effort with the backing of prominent academic and legal organizations. Really, why? There is certainly no profit in it.

Don''t be impulsive or emotional, and certainly don''t be suckers for sensational prime-time television -- like anything, *get facts* from all sides before you commit yourself to an idea.

a href="" http://www.rafayburnsappeal.com/ /a
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by September 16, 2007 3:16 PM EDT
Three consecutive life sentences is just fine for a couple of cold blooded (non)human beings. Now they have the rest of their lives to out smart all other humans.
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by asyongs September 16, 2007 10:30 AM EDT
The defence''s argument that a ''third person'' was present during the crime cast doubt on prosecution''s case. However, the explanation for this came from the convicted themselves. They told the ''mafioso'' that the daughter was standing and unmindful when her parents were being bludgeoned.
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by thatsthatnow September 16, 2007 9:13 AM EDT
Right on Judge Mertel. You certainly made the right call. It took a decade too long but I believe justice was served. I mean really, how do you not attend funeral services for your murdered family members? How do you confess to killing anyone, let alone your own family, if you really didn''t do it? There are some real sick, dimented & disturbed people living among us. Thanks to all of the men and women out there protecting us from these crazed individuals. YOU DON''T GET PAID ENOUGH. STAY SAFE!!!!!
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by ponky2k September 16, 2007 6:28 AM EDT
Look at the expression of Sebastian Burns and you get the perfect look of a perfect killer. No single sign of nervousness or sadness or anger or frustration, you only see chilling calm and arrogance that persisted the entire trial. The only time that he looked natural and relaxed as a "normal" human being was when he was secretly taped and confessed the killing. After all, he is not superior. He is yet another moron ruined in his own "I am smarter than everybody else" theory.
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by ubrew12 September 16, 2007 5:18 AM EDT
Sounds to me like they were set up.

What are you supposed to say when being leaned on by mafia bosses? You say what you think they want you to hear! I''m surprised this didn''t lead to SOME doubt in the minds of the jurors. There''s a killer, or killers, on the loose somewhere. Bellevue police just wanted to ''put one away'': they didn''t do due diligence with this.

Impersonating a mafioso to extract a ''confession'' from someone is one step away from torturing them to extract the same confession. And just as suspicious as to its truthfullness.
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by LouDawg September 16, 2007 5:15 AM EDT
You know what the most damning evidence was that the special or the prosecution never went over: Two 18 year old males go watch the Lion King together? Come freaking on.
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by LouDawg September 16, 2007 5:07 AM EDT
Sebastian Burns is the worst kind of person, an arrogant remorsefulness SOB. He is also a horrible criminal. I am reminded of a quote from Office Space "You know what I can''t figure out? How is it that all these stupid, Neanderthal, Mafia guys can be so good at crime and smart guys like us can suck so badly at it?" I grew up taking honors and AP classes and knew pricks like him my whole life. They think their intelligence will always save them. His responses to all the evidence were the obvious responses an "intelligent" person would give. He is so freaking dirty. I hope the Aryan Brotherhood has their way his pretty self on prison.
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by opksuwildcat September 16, 2007 2:17 AM EDT
I was surprised that with all of the work done on this story, that CBS would allow a misspelled word at the end of the show. This was when they were telling us what happened to the main characters. You would think they''d know how to spell ''represent''.
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by sideeastside September 16, 2007 2:06 AM EDT
Mr. Burns is a cold blooded KILLER!! I feel sorry for Atif, that he was SUCKED in my EVIL!
(But, he still is guilty and should pay the penalty)
God Bless those men who went after him and God Bless the brave people that sat on the jury!
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by wattermelann September 16, 2007 1:48 AM EDT
Wow, a real psychopath at work--Mr. Sebastian Burns. But how can Atif say how much he loved his mother and stand there and which her beaten to death? Sick, sick, sick, sick. Throw away the key!
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