Comments on: The Mortgage And The Murder

Did A Stressed Out Mortgage Broker Kill His Clients?

Add a Comment See all 54 Comments
by jgyossarian November 24, 2008 2:41 PM EST
For more information on the culture of corruption of the Albuquerque Police Department, you may use the following as resources:



www.realcrimes.com

http://albuquerquenazis.blogspot.com

Van Bering Robinson v. Maruffi, Polisar et al, US District Court for the District of New Mexico, Case No. CIV 84-1216M, Memorandum Opinion and Order dated 13 January 1986. The Late Great Justice E.L. Meechem and a Jury found that Albuquerque P.D. had destroyed exculpatory evidence, manufactured incriminating evidence, committed perjury and suborned perjury in order to falsely convict African-American Van Bering Robinson for the murder of Albuquerque Police Officer
Phil Chacon.

Joseph N. Riggs, III et al v. City of Albuquerque et al, US District Court for the District of New Mexico Case No. CIV 88-1141SG, settled in 1995 by the City of Albuquerque. The Albuquerque Police Department''s Intelligence Unit conducted campaigns of harassment, intimidation, spying and character assassination against members of the ACLU, NAACP, New Mexico Lawyers'' Guild, and Community Activists that Albuquerque P.D. considered political enemies. 59.4% of files maintained were of NON-CRIMINAL LAW-ABIDING CITIZENS.

LT. Gilbert Najar +20 other sergeants, detectives and patrolmen vs. City of Albuquerque and Joseph M. Polisar, US District Court for the District of New Mexico, Case No. CIV 94-0837M. 21 Hispanic officers swear under oath as to APD''s lawlessness and discriminatory behavior towards public/themselves.




Reply to this comment
by jgyossarian November 24, 2008 2:33 PM EST
For more information on the culture of corruption of the Albuquerque Police Department, you may use the following as resources:



www.realcrimes.com

http://albuquerquenazis.blogspot.com

Van Bering Robinson v. Maruffi, Polisar et al, US District Court for the District of New Mexico, Case No. CIV 84-1216M, Memorandum Opinion and Order dated 13 January 1986. The Late Great Justice E.L. Meechem and a Jury found that Albuquerque P.D. had destroyed exculpatory evidence, manufactured incriminating evidence, committed perjury and suborned perjury in order to falsely convict African-American Van Bering Robinson for the murder of Albuquerque Police Officer
Phil Chacon.

Joseph N. Riggs, III et al v. City of Albuquerque et al, US District Court for the District of New Mexico Case No. CIV 88-1141SG, settled in 1995 by the City of Albuquerque. The Albuquerque Police Department''s Intelligence Unit conducted campaigns of harassment, intimidation, spying and character assassination against members of the ACLU, NAACP, New Mexico Lawyers'' Guild, and Community Activists that Albuquerque P.D. considered political enemies. 59.4% of files maintained were of NON-CRIMINAL LAW-ABIDING CITIZENS.

LT. Gilbert Najar +20 other sergeants, detectives and patrolmen vs. City of Albuquerque and Joseph M. Polisar, US District Court for the District of New Mexico, Case No. CIV 94-0837M. 21 Hispanic officers swear under oath as to APD''s lawlessness and discriminatory behavior towards public/themselves.




Reply to this comment
by vlandry9755 November 24, 2008 1:06 PM EST
Anyone that has ever had to deal with the Albuquerque Police Department knows they are the most corrupt police department out there and as for Brandenberg she''s just a disgrace to the human race. While investigate this murder case someone should also investigate this corrupt police department.
As for the murders I do think the daughter my know who did it and maybe was involved some how. Maybe her and Mr. Santiago had a little something going on in private and he figured maybe if the parents were dead and she got the insurance money she would help him get out of debt and maybe she figured she would play him so he would kill her parents and she could get the money and then leave him. Either way they were both involved and maybe they figured it would be best if neither one of them told on the other. Just what I seem to get from the whole story.
Reply to this comment
by roscoezzz November 24, 2008 6:58 AM EST
The pictures of the gun bullet don''t match. All of a sudden the bullet is there in the third picture. Obviously planted by someone. The police maybe. Hmmmm....
Ron, "Come on" if you can''t handle the pressure of the job. Quit! Or find a part time job in that area of work.
Renee, why did you call your mother''s "close friend" first after calling 911? It would seem you would call the immediate families first. Hmmmm....
What happened with the dog barking? It was stated that he didn''t bark when the killer /intruder entered the home. The dog must have known who it was. Hmmmm....
Reply to this comment
by joey696 November 24, 2008 1:10 AM EST
Just read this story, and I reckon Mr Santiago should sue the Albq police dept for harresment. How did the bullet end up in the bag after photographs where taken. As for Renee, leave her be, no ones knows how shock affects people. I know myself when I go into shock I laugh myself silly. Albq police get out there and do your job.
Reply to this comment
by mcgregor7720 November 24, 2008 12:15 AM EST
I am wondering how the police in this case are so intent on the weapon being a "Ruger" handgun. With only shell casings and most likely the bullets removed from the victims, how can one manufacturer out of at least dozens that make 9MM handguns be identified? This doesn''t even take into consideration any military surplus from anywhere in the world in this same caliber. Sure amazing the police identified Ruger as the weapon.
Reply to this comment
by speedy3009 November 23, 2008 11:59 PM EST
i was very curious to find out what the profile of their killer would be. I also believed mr. santiago still needs to be investigated more thoroughly as well as the police department. My personal opinion is that it is the year 2008, and we do, infact, unfortunately live in a society where there are many dishonest and desparate people everywhere including our police departments. I wish people would come out of denial and realize this does happen. Overall, think they need to re-investigate mr. santiago and the POLICE DEPT. Its bad enough people get away with murder, and it''s even worse when police get away criminal acts as well.............you don''t know who to trust.
Reply to this comment
by renra78 November 23, 2008 9:47 PM EST
Why didn''t you turn the tv off or change the channel? You wasted your own hour by sitting and watching. The producers didn''t make you do it nor did anyone else...you are to blame for your own "wasted" time. Next time...I suggest if you don''t like any show, change the channel, turn it off or find something else to do.
Reply to this comment
by November 23, 2008 9:07 PM EST
The incompetence of the police is only matched by the incompetence of the "48 Hours" producers for producing a completely useless hour of television.

The key questions were never asked or followed up, and we wasted the hour talking to people who had no clue about anything.

If the gun was so important, why didn''t we follow up the gun "trade"? Why couldn''t the shell casing be left over in the "gun bag" from a time when Ron still owned the gun and rolled into the later photos of the gun bag when it was handled by police? A lame, unproven, unsubstantiated charge of police planting evidence was completely unwarranted.

The police never seemed to have anything to say about the case during the show. They sure got payback from the producers with the planting evidence accusation.

Shoddy journalism and an hour of my time wasted.
Reply to this comment
by elkgrovegal November 23, 2008 4:51 PM EST
I watched this episode because it took place in ABQ, NM and my own family is from NM. I see Renee''s family and its very much the "hispanic" gossip that my own family participates in there. Yes! I am hispanic also. Renee''s aunt made me sick! I totally recognize her behavior in family members of my own. They want a piece of whatever Renee received -- God help them! I support Renee in her innocence. Because her family did not like the WAY she grieved she must be guilty?? Please! My own sister who passed away last year in Santa Fe, NM had children. Her eldest daughter was 22 at the time of her mom''s death, and she was late to her own mother''s funeral! She was with her friends. She found comfort with them instead of her family, does that upset me? No. I know my own niece had NOTHING to do with her mother''s death and I don''t agree with being late to your own mother''s funeral, but I wouldn''t say she didn''t love her mother because she was late. I don''t think you can judge a person''s behavior in their darkest hour. I certainly do not know what I would behave like if Renee''s tragedy had happened to me, do you? It''s sad that Renee is now truly alone in the world. She is, however, better off without that horrible family of hers. I hope she finds comfort and peace in her new life...wherever that may be.
Reply to this comment
by renra78 November 23, 2008 2:20 PM EST
You will close or die comment; is neither here nor there. My aunt took care of two of our family members at different times and each died in her care; of course due to illness'' but we would say, "if she takes care of you, you will end up dead." So that doesn''t mean anything. And another thing, about the comment the co-worker said that they were close and Renee wouldn''t do anything to hurt her parents--Wake-up!! greed is one of the 7 deadly sins and it is the most evil one. A great amount of money makes people lose it and too, you don''t know what was going on behind closed doors, only what was being said to you and what you saw: people can put on a good show to lead people believe that all is fine. The daughter is guilty. Look at the Menendez brothers, or any other son/daughter that killed their parents over money.
Reply to this comment
by pcreversed November 23, 2008 1:43 PM EST
I worked at Coutrywide and though I never met Ron Santiago, there was a inter-company joke about him. It went something like; If you have an application with him, you will close or you will die. It was part of the company training program on how to make sure your customers close their loans. We thought it was a joke at the time, but in hind-sight, maybe it was serious. Of course Coutrywide was run by scum of the earth. It is no wonder that the mortgage market collapsed, Coutrywide had such a huge influence and anybody could see it was run by low-life scum. I quit soon after it became clear what was really going on.
Reply to this comment
by pcreversed November 23, 2008 1:43 PM EST
I worked at Coutrywide and though I never met Ron Santiago, there was a inter-company joke about him. It went something like; If you have an application with him, you will close or you will die. It was part of the company training program on how to make sure your customers close their loans. We thought it was a joke at the time, but in hind-sight, maybe it was serious. Of course Coutrywide was run by scum of the earth. It is no wonder that the mortgage market collapsed, Coutrywide had such a huge influence and anybody could see it was run by low-life scum. I quit soon after it became clear what was really going on.
Reply to this comment
by ginger-tea November 23, 2008 1:09 PM EST
As a coworker and friend of Bernadette (Berna) I saw firsthand how close Berna, Greg and Renee were. Renee was everything to Berna. Berna would talk about how wonderful Renee was and how good she would do in school. I remember when Renee was going to school out of state she made sure her transition was going to be as smooth for their family. After a year of being in school out of state Renee returned because she missed her parents and continued going to school at a local university. Renee would come to Berna%u2019s office to eat lunch with her mom every day. On Friday, July 29, 2005 Greg, and Renee came into to visit Berna and they were all smiles. That was the last image I have of them.
What I that was very strange about the family was they were very supportive to Renee. The entire family came to the office one afternoon when we decided to dedicate our main conference room in Berna%u2019s honor. They were very comforting of Renee. It wasn%u2019t until they began to divide up Bern%u2019s and Greg%u2019s personal property. They began to remove things from the home without consulting Renee. That%u2019s when the divide began in the family. It%u2019s my belief that greed played into the division between Renee and the family.
Renee%u2019s actions after finding out what happened to her parents are a normal reaction. No one can know what they would do until they are put into her shoes. I support Renee and believe she would not have done anything to hurt her parents.
Reply to this comment
by renra78 November 23, 2008 12:41 PM EST
After watching the show, I have many questions. I believe Ron is innocent. I do believe Renee has something to do with her parents murder. Why would the family tell her, "Blood is thicker than water?" she is family, blood is thick--which makes me think that the only reason they would say that is because she is or was with someone that the family didn''t like. Renee mentions in the beginning that the dog went silent, everything went silent; yet, she remembers hearing her father say, "What are you doing?" before he was killed. My take is: if you are a stranger and you have a gun, knife, bat, etc pointed, aimed at someone, they are not going to say anything like what your''e going to do, it is obvious. Response is fight or flight. But, if you know the person who is pointing a gun at you(say a daughter)you are going to ask, "what are you doing?" because you are surprised, shocked that he/she is doing this. Also, Renee questions Ron''s involvement(family also, what did he have to gain?)yet, Renee says towards the end that he(Ron)is still having a normal life, he''s got family and she has nobody to go back to. She has family, she chooses not to be in contact, why? because of her quilt. I believe she is greedy and wanted the money and couldn''t wait to spend it. Guilty!! she hired someone to kill her parents. Officials should check into her bank account to see if a big amount was taken out to pay someone.
Reply to this comment
by katepig November 23, 2008 9:07 AM EST
I feel so bad for Renee. Her family,and I use the term loosely, was so horrible. Nothing they said on this show validated the idea that Renee was involved in her parents murder. The fact that they are filing a wrongful death suit, indicates to me that they want a share of her inheritance. She was right to just cut these nasty people out of her life. I only hope that this case comes to resolution, and that Renee is freed from all suspicion. Though even if they had a video tape of the murder, I doubt that those horrible family members would be swayed in their specious reasoning. I hope the judge in the wrongful death suit, kicks their greedy butts to the curb.
Reply to this comment
by mplsrain November 23, 2008 6:23 AM EST
Was the family dog killed? I assume so, but it was never specifically stated on the program. I don''t think the daughter would have had the family dog killed.
Reply to this comment
by kashina-2009 November 23, 2008 5:51 AM EST
I''m a former coworker of Bernadette. I think of her often, she was a ball of clear bright sunshine. Men did flock around her. We both had only child daughters that are the same age. She told me about how she met Greg, and how it was ''love at first sight''. I know that she had problems with her family and especially Greg''s family - she had mentioned it to me. Bernadette loved her daughter Renee more than anything in this world. Renee - I support you all the way girl - I only wish I could tell you that.
Reply to this comment
by justthinkin3 November 23, 2008 5:19 AM EST
Just saw the show and I thought it was interesting that Ron Santiago called the bag with the casing his "gun bag" during the interview, even tho he''d said he''d gotten rid of the gun a year before the murders. Why would he still be thinking of it as his "gun bag??"

I also thought he acted like he was a little flustered when asked what he had done with the gun. He was nervous, blinking, and looked away several times, while the rest of the interview was very smooth and steady...as if he wasn''t prepared to answer the question...
Reply to this comment
by pcreversed November 23, 2008 4:19 AM EST
I have had dealings with corrupt cops in the past. Most of them, I have found, do not do their jobs like they should. they want to charge anybody with anything they can and are only interested with getting a conviction, even if it mean lying to get it. A conviction dos not mean the right person was convicted, just that someone was. How much safer do you feel if the wrong person is convicted. The murder is still out there and an innocent person is in prison. Cops suck
Reply to this comment
See all 54 Comments
  • MOST POPULAR
  • Recent Shows
  • Catch Her If You Can

    In Full: A con artist fakes her way into Harvard and Columbia and outsmarts the feds. Peter Van Sant reports

    Play CBS Video
  • A Case for Murder

    In Full: A young man is found dead from multiple stab wounds. His family searches for the killer, but was it suicide? Maureen Maher reports.

    Play CBS Video
Coming Up

Live to Tell: Krystal's Courage

Saturday, Nov. 28 | 10 p.m. ET/PT

A 10-year-old girl's story of survival and how she brought a serial killer to justice.

More