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by ella419 February 3, 2008 12:01 PM EST
This is just a horrible situation, and I am so sorry for the families; but I just can''t help thinking, and I realize that I speak as someone removed from the entire situation, but I would never evacuate the area without taking my family members. I would never leave my family behind-even if I thought they would be taken care of by some facility. I would have gone and taken my family member with me. I could not live with myself otherwise.
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by admrilbubba February 3, 2008 5:37 AM EST
I just watched the program and I am angered! I worked in a similar environment and what the owners said was to gain sympathy from those who don%u2019t know. First they were owners I doubt they changed bed pans, diapers, or bed linen full of urine and feces. Second they made an annual contract with families, county authorities, and JACO or any another licensing authority when they wrote up their evacuation plan, then lied about it. They were obligated to follow that EVAC plan when a hurricane was coming; they lied when they didn%u2019t follow it. They also lied saying they would have to decide who to let die when unplugging life support. How many really were on life support? If any one was on life support they had to be listed in the EVAC Plan as a patient that had extra needs. Life support ambulances are available; they were required to know the phone number for those extra needs. When you own a place like a nursing home or adult care (foster) home you have responsibilities to many people, you must be able to make designs and not rely on a government agency for those decisions. However they did make the decision, it was in the EVAC plan. The families should have asked the point blank question; when, were and how will my family member be moved. Bottom line, the owners knew they were in a bad area for a hurricane and it%u2019s after math. They had an EVAC plan to follow! They were responsible for what took place because they didn%u2019t follow the rules!

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by admrilbubba February 3, 2008 5:30 AM EST
They assumed that evacuation would take place because of they EVAC plan. This is how tragedies like this happening, assuming the home will do right. Let us not forget the social workers who are assigned to each patient? Oh yea, they have too big of a case load, yes I%u2019ve heard it before!
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by admrilbubba February 3, 2008 5:18 AM EST
They assumed that evacuation would take place because of they EVAC plan. This is how tragedies like this happening, assuming the home will do right. Let us not forget the social workers who are assigned to each patient? Oh yea, they have too big of a case load, yes I%u2019ve heard it before!
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by admrilbubba February 3, 2008 5:16 AM EST
They assumed that evacuation would take place because of they EVAC plan. This is how tragedies like this happening, assuming the home will do right. Let us not forget the social workers who are assigned to each patient? Oh yea, they have too big of a case load, yes I%u2019ve heard it before!
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by admrilbubba February 3, 2008 5:12 AM EST
They assumed that evacuation would take place because of they EVAC plan. This is how tragedies like this happening, assuming the home will do right. Let us not forget the social workers who are assigned to each patient? Oh yea, they have too big of a case load, yes I%u2019ve heard it before!
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by drummers4 February 3, 2008 5:05 AM EST
I am dumbfounded. I cannot believe that this story even exists. It was a Natural Disaster and they did the best that they knew how. They are after all people too, and elderly at that. Noone expected it to be the way that it was. Are there not enough other cases to use the tax peoples money on. I would be very embarrassed and ashamed if I was that Prosecutor, I would fire her. The finger gets pointed at them and they point it back at a couple who STAYED also...They were just meant to get out. Where or where were the Families of these people if they were so concerned. Yes they have a duty , but how far does that duty go. They were not children and they were not Babies, I just cannot believe that I am even having to have this discussion, It was a Hurricane..... The only people who are leagally obligated to risk lives is the Government, why are they not being Sued. Oh thats right , all the money is going to a War. Snap out of it, it is not always someone fault.
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by momofek2 February 3, 2008 5:05 AM EST
This story bothers me in many different areas! As a nurse I have been in many different situations heartbreaking and joyful memories. However this also tells me there have been a few of you who have not been in healthcare or even present in a facility such as this one, or you would not be makeing comments that it is the loved ones who were to evacuate their families, if you were to vist a nurseing home you would no that 40% of these residents DO NOT have loveing families to make those decisions for them!! It is 100% up to the people, strangers to make a unselfish desison for their life. These residents did not get that.
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by mollyboo635 February 3, 2008 4:54 AM EST
One more comment came to mind; Mrs. Mangano said she couldn''t "decide whose plug to pull first". I''m sure she is aware that the ambulance transport service is trained to handle these types of situations and have portable life support. Also, a comment was made by Mr. Mangano something to the effect that had the storm not hit they would have been "heroes". Both of these comments seem a little peculiar and contrived. But then again it is easy for me to pass judgement as I sit here safe and sound in my cozy home. I''m sure that God is more benevolent and forgiving than some believe and we hope and pray that His judgement is mercuful for all of us. I will continue to keep everyone involved in my prayers.
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by mollyboo635 February 3, 2008 4:31 AM EST
There are many things about this story that bothered me. Yes, I feel for the families; though as the daughter of an 83 year old who lives close by, I can''t imagine me leaving until I personally called an ambulance transport and had him moved. But at the same time I don''t think this absolves the Manganos from the responsibility of attempting to evacuate the facility. Even in as much as networking with other facilities (that did evacuate) to find out what the other facilities were going to do. I believe it was a very autonomous decision. I was also bothered by the fact that part of the evacuation plan included a contract from a bus company owned by Salvador Mangano promising to have two buses at ready in the event of an evacuation. Doesn''t that seem somewhat devious?
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