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A Couple Faces Life In Prison After 35 People Die In Their Care

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by dogpaddler2 July 6, 2008 1:11 AM EDT
After watching this, I realized that most of the horrified and indignant families were truly upset with their own behavior rather than that of the Manganos. Having an elderly grandmother, I can honestly say that were I in that situation, (and I was, but she is not in a nursing home)we would make sure Grandma was a priority and we would have her there with us in the car as we were leaving the area. We evacuated well in advance - on the Saturday morning before Katrina hit - and she WAS right there with us. Such would be the case whether she was in a nursing home or not, because she is important to us. You don''t leave your relatives behind, plain and simple.
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by musicalpraye July 6, 2008 1:04 AM EDT
The fault lies with the government. They knew the levy would not hold. This is tragic and so sad, I pray for the families of those who have lost loved ones. If I had been your neighbor, I would not have treated you badly. My brother lives in a hurricane state, and sometimes evacuating means getting on a highway that turns into a parking lot and then you run out of gas.
We must forgive, My prayers are with you all.
Our government sadly is too worried about everyone but the U.S. citizens. May God give you peace to forgive.
There were many people killed because the levy failed,
not just the ones in this home. As far as I am concerned this whole disaster started by satan is a sin. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.
I pray God gives all the peace that passes understanding.
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by susanlorelei July 6, 2008 1:04 AM EDT
I would feel horrible if I said bye bye to my 82 year old father and left!! I would of stuck with him and helped him to get out. I would of never left my parent behind no matter what. These people feel guilt for their own actions not for the owners of the nursing home.

We are responsible for our parents care and it is a shame they left their dad behind.
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by huber004 February 6, 2008 1:35 AM EST
Caroline-you message is all wrong-
The Manganos were in a lose-lose situation.

Do you understand that there was no one there on life support?
Do you know that they told the families they were going to evacuate?
If they had done the right thing and evacuated, there would be no loss of life?
We would not be on this post-this would not have happened. It would involve loss of money each day that the residents were not at the facility, therefore, the chance was taken, and they lost... resulting in 35 innocent lives lost, please understand. This could have been a win-win situation.
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by huber004 February 6, 2008 1:23 AM EST
Lindsey-I would love to talk to you. You are so grounded, make all the right sense, and are so logical. You''re right, we have got to forgive, because it our not decision in the end. We''ll be ok, and we know our loved ones are.
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by huber004 February 6, 2008 1:20 AM EST
Thank you shammy-you are so awesome and supportive. Thaank you also Lindsey. How can anyone think that the Manganos did the right thing? There was no resident that was on life support. The 5 that were "special needs" were on feeding tubes on oxygen, they could have been transported. Mabel and Sal only made further fools of themselves by doing this story. No one will ever trust them again, and now more people know about them. Thank you again to the State of La., Dr. Bertucci, and the family members who spoke the truth in St. Francisville. We can only wonder what the jury was compelled to do?
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by lily1972 February 5, 2008 5:39 PM EST
they should have evacuated .......plus I never the sense of having a city below sea level
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by rockynlinds February 5, 2008 3:41 PM EST
Thanks huber...I just want people to understand that it was much deeper than just leaving our relatives there to die. I am a forgiving person...My grandfather certainly wouldn''t want me or my family to hate the Mangano''s, and I don''t hate them. Their decision was wrong and they should pay consequences. It''s just the right thing. So I hope that people out there aren''t judging me and my family because there is a lot more to the story than what you know!!!

Lindsey Emmons
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by shammy0202 February 5, 2008 2:57 PM EST
As a former worker at St Rita''''s I know the whole truth about huber004 and the "love" she had for her mother. I won''''t get into it but she has a TON of GUILT on her mind and she needs to blame it on someone else.

Posted by quitnowplz at 03:38 PM : Feb 03,

I find your comment appalling, what kind of professional are you????? You sound like you have an awful lot of guilt. Where were you on that fateful day? Why did you not do something to save lives???? EVERY NURSE or person who works in the health care field knows there IS something you can do if you feel lives are in jeopardy!! I would be embarrassed to even admit I worked there at that time. You worked for complete idiots!!!!
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by shammy0202 February 5, 2008 2:03 PM EST
I in no way blame the family members of these residents who have perished by drowning. We have no idea what is going on in their lives. I have had residents who are 100 years old and their children are very elderly themselves and have serious health problems themseves.
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by caroline200 February 5, 2008 1:38 PM EST
I think it''s really easy for people to judge the Mangano''s because THEY WEREN''T THERE for their own parents when they needed them the most. This couple cared for their patients and were given the awesome responsiblity of having to decide whether to stay or to go. In hindsight, they should have evacuated. Had they evacuated and there was no need, how many of these families would STILL be angry for them "jumping the gun" and risking their parents lives? The Manganos were in a lose-lose situation.

Katrina brought out the worst in so many people and the children of these patients need someone to blame. The Manganos seem to be a nice couple who did not intentionally kill anyone. Why pick on them when there are so many out there that intentionally hurt others??
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by shammy0202 February 5, 2008 1:33 PM EST
To the person who thinks nursing homes should be out lawed, First of all it is a VERY difficult and heart wrenching situation when the decision has to be made to put a loved one in a nursing home. They are put in our care, they trust us to keep their loved ones safe and free from harm. In this case this did not happen and it was the owners CHOICE to make the decision they did. Can you imagine the residents being of sound mind and knowing they will die by drowning? There was and is NO excuse for this.
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by franchize44 February 5, 2008 1:17 PM EST
This is a difficult and sad situation all around. I do think that the Mangano''s should be held responsible in some way. They had an obligation to do everything in their power to save the residents and get them to safety, and I don''t think they truly tried to do that. I also had a problem with the "pulling the plug" comment. There are ways to transport patients who need oxygen, medicine, etc and do so safely. Having to transport the patients is not an immediate death sentence- as evidenced by another nursing home that evacuated and only lost one person. ONE. As opposed to 35. So I do think they need to be held responsible in some way. I also have a problem with those that blame the Army Corp for the entire disaster. Nothing irks me more than that. Yes, they could have and should have built the levy better. But this is mother nature here! No matter how good something is built, nothing is foolproof against nature. There are no tornado proof houses either. If it rains hard enough and the winds blow hard enough.... things get destroyed. By all means, get on the Army Corps for some of the blame. But have a little respect for mother nature and what it can do to our country. There is no foolproof way to stave off every natural disaster.
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by huber004 February 5, 2008 12:28 PM EST
Shammy-thank you. Health care for the elderly needs more people like you.
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by shammy0202 February 5, 2008 12:10 PM EST
OMG what morons, I have worked in a nursing home for 15 years, this would NEVER happen here!!! Those people could not save themselves. I can not believe they LET this happen to elderly defenseless people. I hope they have pain and suffering every night and day of the rest of their lives, to think they CHOSE the fate of these people. To all family members, God Bless You, My prayers are with you.
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by huber004 February 5, 2008 12:48 AM EST
I think I need to say this -most people on this post didn''t know my mother. She was the most loving, unselfish person in the world. She was only 72 years old when she drowned. Her mind worked, but her legs didn''t work too good, she had just been diagnosed with Parkinson''s. She worried about everyone, and trusted everyone. She had no money and always asked me to send her candy and small items that she could share with the residents that she loved. I had a phone in her room and we talked several times a week, I could hear the happiness in her voice when we spoke and she was so proud of me and her only granddaughter, we were her life. She was afraid of water, and the way she died, with the people she trusted, who told me (450 miles away) that they would evacuate, no...I live with that everyday. They lied.
May God bless her soul and her other 34 angels in heaven. If the Manganos can lay their head on a pillow and live with that, then I am not judge their ways.
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by huber004 February 5, 2008 12:38 AM EST
To CGR260- thank you for your support, I appreciate your common sense and wisdom. I say that on behalf of all of us that lost family members at St. Rita''s, why can''t people see, or want to acknowledge the obvious? 4 weeks in that courtroom, how could anyone see anything else? The comment they made, they will never run another nursing home, duh!
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by huber004 February 5, 2008 12:34 AM EST
To Lindsey-you''ve got it so right, we''ve got to forgive the ignorant people who are so quick to judge and can''t see past...we were lied to! Any of us would have reacted differently had we known our loved ones were in danger. The way our loved ones died..by drowning, is so unbelievable. It should never have happened, and some people want to defend these monsters, we''ve got to pray for them. We are so much stronger, and have faith..
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by huber004 February 5, 2008 12:26 AM EST
Once again idiot "quitnowpiz" - the Manganos lied to all family members by saying they would evacuate and didn''t. Because of that, 35 frail, elderly residents who could not care for themselves drowned. They turned offered help away. You seem to think that the Manganos'' are innocent, how simple are you? Nothing will bring our loved ones back, and we know they are in a better place, but all this episode did was further exploit the obvious, the Manganos put themselves in this spotlight and did nothing but further dig themselves deeper, again I feel sorry for you.
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by capecodmerma February 4, 2008 11:35 PM EST
tomtomasters and all the other people who have never worked in a nursing home....until you know all the unbiased facts you can''t make a rational choice. Most people who live in my nursing home have lives much better than they had when they lived at home...it''s a terrible tragedy
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