Comments on: Researchers Focus On Vaccine Deniers

Many In Small Oregon Town Believe Childhood Vaccinations Do More Harm Than Good

[barbjc1]

My children were born in the 60''s and 70''s and their vaccination list was very small. Polio, DPT and later MMR. The children of these years as stated before did not have a high rate of ADD/ADHD, autism etc.
Let''s look at multiple possible causes. Too many vaccinations in a very small body. It doesn''t take a rocket scientist to figure this one out. Food shipped from foreign countries, too many preservatives in the food and too many parents so stressed out and worn out from long working hours to keep their jobs not having the energy to cook meals.
I can''t understand why doctors do not take a stand and tell the government that all of those vaccines in such a small body is dangerous.
GOOD FOR THE PARENTS THAT ARE MAKING THE DECISIONS. Also, this business of drugging the so-called ADD/ADHD children is bad news.Are you aware of these so-called psychiatrists and pychologists overdiagnosing bi-polarism and are drugging up our preteen and teenage children. Have you ever met a teenager that is not a pain in the buttocks. They are few and far between. A quote from Hillary Clinton "IF WE DO NOT TAKE CARE OF OUR CHILDREN NOTHING ELSE WE DO MATTERS".
I am also definitely NOT a hard right religious fanatic, but the rise of single parenthood is scary because most of the time the father is nowhere to be found. Plus a high percentage of the time the mother does not have the resources or education to suppport the child in the manner it deserves.

I applause these people for standing up against Big Pharma''s profits. These toxins are all synthetic and foreign to the human body. Big Pharma needs to get in step with the rest of the world. Congress we all know that they(Big Pharma) are in your pocket but sometimes the right thing must be done. 100 years from now this time period will be look back on in amazement of total greed by the health care field.

[differnet]

I suggest people take a look at what an epidemic of something like polio or even mumps can do. I spent many years researching historic medicine. When a family of 5 children can be wiped out in a week because of mumps, you should be afraid of it. These people depend upon the herd immunity created by the rest of us to protect their kids. With a town like this in Oregon, they can definately have a major outbreak. Sadly, it''s probably going to take 5 or 6 dead kids to teach them that immunizations have done more with reducing childhood death than all other advanced medical procedures put together. I''ve seen early 20th century photographs of children with secondary measles infections and wards of children being kept alive in iron lungs.

[mainecoast25]

The biggest issues here is choice. Parents should be allowed more flexibility in the vaccination schedule. Children of the 60''s and some in the 70''s had single antigen Measles, Mumps and Rubella shots (shots that stretched out to late childhood, not all given by the time a child is 2) and this is a generation with much less ADHD, and autism. In this generation, hardly anyone can remember encountering ADHD, and autism compared to the volume we have today. It isn''t just about better diagnoses or the ability to diagnose either. There isn''t a conspiracy going on, it''s just that some kids may be more vulnerable than others and we have no way of identifying who they are currently. My very strong belief is that we need to allow parents (who choose) to give the live virus vaccines MMR & Varicella in single antigen shots.

[sincity_q]

On anti-zionism... this is just a new set of clothes for the old anti-semitism that has been with us forever. Jew hatters give themselves a new name and then sell their hatred as a new and improved item.

[mainecoast25]

AntiZion is a religious extremist, a bigot who is using CBSNEWS forums to foster and spew hate. This is about vaccinations not a place for religious bigotry and personal hatred that seems to engulf ''AntiZion''.

CBSNEWS Moderators of Forums need to remove posts from those like AntiZion, they are in violation of the Rules of Engagement that we all have to accept in order to post on these forums.

[sincity_q]

This is just one symptom of a general distrust the public has of nearly everything in their society.

We know we can no longer trust our media so we tend to automatically discount everything we read.

We know our government is corrupt, make law based on which special interests pay the most.

We know that the corporate/business sectors, especially the banks, have taken to feeding upon us like cattle.

We know that healthcare is no longer run by doctors and nurses but bean counters in the insurance industry.

All of this distrust runs so very deep that it is entirely impossible to believe for one second that the government simply can''t understand it. They are one of the reasons we distrust and if they missed that, then they are either as obtuse or as dishonest as we think they are.

[erasmus606]

I believe that vaccination should be mandatory, because I do not want my child exposed to tetanus, pertussis, measles, or typhoid carried by the child of a family that is opposed to vaccination.

Vaccination is one of the great medical discoveries of all time. It is NOT a conspiracy.

Posted by jbrown88881 at 09:45 AM : Jan 10, 2009

I agree.

What is going to start happening is that we are going to see a steady increase in all these diseases. We will be right back where we started from. We will start seeing more and more children and adults DYING from these diseases. The number of DEATHS will probably out do the cases of autism.

[longtree-2009]

apparently, these people number in a very small minority and if they pose no risk to the majority then simply let them make their choice and die. who needs them?

[pkessler69]

I want to add that just because I don''t believe vaccines are safe for ALL children (only for most), does not mean I don''t think all those comments full of conspiracies with backgrounds of "anti Zion" or "Anti Christian", are utterly ridiculous. Let''s keep it real.

[xraytwonine]

well good point, but many basic vaccines are centuries old, and someone''s got to profit, its only natural, i mean, this feels like yet another ideal just to further separate the "social classes" those who can afford the difference (regardless of its actual worth) and those who can''t

[pkessler69]

I have a son who is now 4 years old, up until 21 months of age he was just a healthy boy as documented in his pediatricians file, when after he got a round of shots (that they give to two year olds) he got very sick for 4 days. And one year later they officially diagnosed him with severe autism. Thanks to a great Dan Doctor, with the help of change of diet, and nutritional supplements, our son is now attending an integrated pre-K and generally doing much better, but the autism will be with him all his life.

Just because the government tells you that all vaccines are safe for all children, does not make it so. Remember the last 8 years of the Bush administration, Weapons of Mass Destruction etc?? Parents know best what''s right for their children, and this herd mentality demonstrated on so many comments here is deplorable. Have a nice day!

[tonic12345]

if most of the people commenting here believe that their child could come down with a disease because someone else did not have a vaccine, then why are these commenting people having their child vaccinated?

[u-r-right]

It looks like Tyre is trying to turn Lukyan into a cross-dressing, gender-bender as well. These are the modern day version of the type of people who used to run around with Charlie Manson.

[perk235]

How bizarre that the savages %u201Cget it%u201D while the spoiled housewives are as dumb as rocks.
Posted by AlanW1077 at 02:41 AM : Jan 10, 2009
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The language used here to describe people undercuts any argument made. Savages? Spoiled housewives?

[perk235]

Because children who do have vaccinations are protected from these diseases, I think it''s not an issue whether someone wants to opt out of having their children vaccinated.

However, the problem is that if they do start contracting these diseases, the virus can mutate and then vaccinated people may no longer be immune. So opting out is not without public health risks.

I think that by opting out, the CDC should be able to easily quarantine people who have not been vaccinated because they are more likely to carry a mutant strain.

The quote about Hepatitis B is interesting, however. The point about vaccines is that they are effective only if given BEFORE exposure to a disease.

Viruses are also being shown to cause cancer. So some vaccines will protect against probability of certain cancers, such as cervical cancer and many people are carriers of that without symptoms, so you can''t be sure someone isn''t infected with HPV.

[kurlikew]

Thank goodness for people who are willing to stand up for their right NOT to have their children vaccinated! The potential benefits do NOT outweigh the risks, and most vaccines are ineffective anyway. Nobody should have the right to tell me I have to inject my child with anything - it''s MY CHOICE! I too, will be getting exemption for my son when he starts school. Maybe we''ll move to Ashland!

[whitewolf60]

Creepers, people, I''ve had every shot known to man and THEN some!

I''m sort of a 50 / 50 opinion.... I agree that the number of shot a child has to have before entering school IS getting a little out of hand, but on the other part I agree with what others are saying - nobody wants THEIR child to come down with something that could have been stopped with a vaccination just because some other idiot parents decided NOT to have their son or Daughter vaccinated. TB, Measles, Whooping cough and so on are making a comeback because of people NOT immunizing their children. I say let''s look at the vaccination system and decide what is REALLY necessary. A little common sense would benefit us ALL.

[powmadeak47]

Too bad Americans hadn''t question the ''need'' to lok for water on Mars, support Israel and stop Saddam''s WMd programs, like this people do.

Then again, it sure is strange that no comment on the history of the illness wasn''t mentioned. Death rate? And why do they want to give a baby a hepatitis vaccinations? Who makes it?

Oh CBS. So freaking useless.

[clew37]

"no way she would come in contact with anyone with hepatitis B". And how do you come by that statement? She''ll never be raped, never have ***, never need a transfusion from someone else who doesn''t need shots? Most people with hepatitis never thought it would happen to them either. Those not getting vaccines are also setting themselves up to be the chemical factories germs parasite off of to create new diseases. Where a germ cannot grow, it cannot mutate. I can''t seem to recall any massive outbreaks of polio, dyptheria, whooping cough, etc. in anyplace that has their children vaccinated either. Several instances in places that didn''t though. Must just be a coincidence. Parents are just too *** irresponsible these days, and couldn''t be bothered to educate themselves about vaccines or take their kids to the MD for the prescribed rounds of shots.