Comments on: Karzai Seeks Help Negotiating With Taliban

Afghan President Has Requested Help Of Saudi King In Thus-Far Fruitless Talks

[egresor]

Obama has NOT indicated he will pull out of Afganastan... on the contrary... from the beginning he wants us to do more there. he has been asking for troops to be redeployed from Iraq to Afganastan. So it is pretty stupid to think they are afraid Obama will win and pull out.

Iraq has only made the progress they have politically because they ARE afraid Obama will get us out sooner than later. That is a good thing. They cannot keep infighting while we spend 10 billion a month and loose lives.


Posted by fhmullane
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appreciate not being called stupid?

first i did not say obama intended to pull out but that from the *** leadership they know things will change under obama and in ways they may not like. they have that fear whether obama intends or not.

if they can get peace with the taliban before the new president they take america mostly out of the picture
(except to pay for re-building everything)

not the power of bush''s era but a shared power is still a power and the threat of the taliban would be eliminated to themselves.

agreements would be made for their own interests of course. (like not being killed and i know where the money is)

[samsel3]

There are no benefits for Americans in Afghanistan. Your tax dollars and cumulative borrowed debt to finance these operations only benefit the corporations who purchased the oil& gas rights in the Caspian Sea Basin, for the construction of the TAPI project, Caspian Sea Pipelines........nothing more nothing less.

And the extermination continues:...........

More than a year and half before 911 the CIA Special Activities Division was conducting operations in Afghanistan, trying to topple the Taliban regime for the TAPI project, Caspian Sea Oil & Gas Pipelines...........We now call such activities terror.

[newsjunky5]

Nice photo of Karzai and Turdseye.
But Cheney already tried negotiating with the Talliban. He told them we would put a pipeline to Caspian oil through their country. When they didn''t agree to the terms, Cheney threatened them. They responded by running a few of our passenger jets into buildings. Remember that?

[lovegetpeace]

Posted by promaclaura at 07:27 AM : Sep 30, 2008

Funny how the NeoCons Ideology requires not to help the needed or weak or poor and now they want a strong nation to help a weak nation.

[lovegetpeace]

The political solution is the State of Israel.

[lovegetpeace]

We need a political solution because the current military solution will never work.

The Strongest Military Power of the World USA cannot eliminate the Weakest Military Power of the World such as Taliban and Al-Qaeda.

[yongamerica]

An interesting twist. The suggestion that the king of Saudi Arabia has a controlling influence over a terrorist organization operating in at least two countries is an eye opener.

[samsel3]

Karzai is protecting a US led consortium for the TAPI Caspian Sea Pipeline which will supply Southeast Asian markets. Additionaly, 1.6 billion barrels of oil,in the Afghan-Tajik Basin, and 15.7 trillion cubic feet of natural gas, in the Amu Darya Basin will be exploited.
The Taliban reneged on an agreement with Big Oil & Gas before the invasion holding out for a larger share of pipeline tariffs for their people. The US decided a regime change was a better choice.
Mullah Omar said: "There are thousands of security forces ... and it is clear that they are criminal, thieves, and the people can not trust the security forces at all,"
February 12, 1998 John J. Maresca vp of UNOCAL oil appeared before a House sub committee. The purpose of the meeting was to gain support for exploitation of oil & natural gas resources, for the rights purchased by BIG OIL in the Caspian Sea area.

In his testimony he stated, "The key question is how the energy resources of Central Asia can be made available to nearby Asian markets ".

The exploitation option stated : "One obvious route south would cross Iran, but this is foreclosed by American companies because of U.S. sanctions (with Iran ) . The only other possible route is across Afghanistan,

[hotpaulie]

Saudi Arabia is not an ally of the U.S. Bush lets them slide because of their oil. This country is a breeding ground for terrorists.

[nor-one]

The US government may not want to appear to negotiate with the taliban but Karzai(the former employee of Unocal(Chevron)) can! They got their pipeline built and now they want to use it. A good opium grop, a pipeline and the caped crusader (Karzai) can retire. Is there really any idiot out there that doesn''t realize this whole mess is about nothing else but OIL!

[bob5ford]

Negotiate with terrorists? We should pull back and fortify the western hemisphere. Let the rest of the world worry about themselves. In 10 years it would by North America against the new USSR in a stalemate with China as the spoiler. At least we''d have peace.

[promaclaura]

Afghan President Hamid Karzai said Tuesday he has asked the king of Saudi Arabia to help facilitate peace talks with the Taliban in order to bring an end to the Afghan conflict.
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Even Kharzai realizes, after 7 years of going around in circles, that the neocon strategy for Afghanistan is a dog....


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Posted by formrusmcsgt at 07:15 AM : Sep 30, 2008

So do you think sending in more troops without a new strategy will be a waste of time?

[promaclaura]

Wow, what a new fangled concept. Muslims actually helping other Muslims to gain peace. Will it happen, I doubt it, but it''s something to wish for. Muslims won''t even help each other in national disasters and Egypt was practically staving due to the skyrocketing prices of oil. Does Saudi Arabia care, as they ride on the wealth of their oil and their people seek answers in jihad? My wish is that the followers of jihad would open their eyes and see who their real enemies are, their own dictator-style leadership.

[formrusmcsgt]

Afghan President Hamid Karzai said Tuesday he has asked the king of Saudi Arabia to help facilitate peace talks with the Taliban in order to bring an end to the Afghan conflict.
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Even Kharzai realizes, after 7 years of going around in circles, that the neocon strategy for Afghanistan is a dog....

[sleepyric]

if Karzai is wanting to negotiate, that''s bad!...means the Tali are winning. That''s the way it''s been in Afghanistan for centuries. Nothing the government does is going to change that! Russians found out the hard way, and they were probably worse than the Taliban. Burn the poppy fields, take away their money source, and then you''ll make some headway.

[FHMullane]

Obama has NOT indicated he will pull out of Afganastan... on the contrary... from the beginning he wants us to do more there. he has been asking for troops to be redeployed from Iraq to Afganastan. So it is pretty stupid to think they are afraid Obama will win and pull out.

Iraq has only made the progress they have politically because they ARE afraid Obama will get us out sooner than later. That is a good thing. They cannot keep infighting while we spend 10 billion a month and loose lives.

[petro49l]

If Islamabad wants the Coalition out, they would launch a thermo-nuclear warhead at an American target within Afghanistan. The Pakistani Army defends Bin Laden and Waziristan. The Saudis could decide that the Coalition must fight against Pakistani, Afghani, and Irani Military Forces to escalate tension in the Middle East. Oil prices then sky rocket. What if the Saudis refuse to sell petroleum to the United States? The Saudis return the price for a barrel of oil to $150.

[nextgenman]

Obama will be president of the U.S.

Posted by mr22582 at 05:44 AM : Sep 30, 2008

[egresor]

what this is that karzai knows there is going to be a new president and also believes it''s going to be obama. he is trying to make peace with the taliban before america pulls out and leaves him at the non-mercy of the taliban.

it''s sort of transparent