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[nothappyatall]

own-ndirty, anyhow, I hope that information helps you understand what gesus was saying more clearly.

dog Bless

Posted by libagenda

Yeah we KNOW what he was sayin''- burn in hel1 unless you worship my azz on bended knee like an idiot, oh but you have a CHOICE.

[down-ndirty]

The New Ten Commandments:

1. Do not do to others what you would not want them to do to you.

2. In all things, strive to cause no harm.

3. Treat your fellow human beings, your fellow living things, and the world in general with love, honesty, faithfulness and respect.

4. Do not overlook evil or shrink from administering justice, but always be ready to forgive wrongdoing freely admitted and honestly regretted.

5. Live life with a sense of joy and wonder.

6. Always seek to be learning something new.

7. Test all things; always check your ideas against the facts, and be ready to discard even a cherished belief if it does not conform to them.

8. Never seek to censor or cut yourself off from dissent; always respect the right of others to disagree with you.

9. Form independent opinions on the basis of your own reason and experience; do not allow yourself to be led blindly by others.

10. Question everything.

http://www.ebonmusings.org/atheism/new10c.html

[down-ndirty]

Salman Rushdie wrote an article about the religious massacres in India titled "Religion, as ever, is the poison in India''s blood." He wrote:

"What is there to respect in any of this, or in any of the crimes now being committed almost daily around the world in religion''s dreaded name? How well, with what fatal results, religion erects totems, and how willing we are to kill for them! And when we''ve done it often enough, the deadening of affect that results makes it easier to do it again. So India''s problem turns out to be the world''s problem. What happened in India has happened in God''s name. The problem''s name is God."

[down-ndirty]

Compare this christian hymm written by Isaac Watts:

Lord, I ascribe it to Thy Grace,
And not to chance, as others do,
That I was born of Christian Race
And not a Heathen or a Jew.

to these daily prayers that male Orthodox and Conservative Jews are taught to recite:

Blessed are You for not making me a Gentile.
Blessed are You for not making me a woman.
Blessed are You for not making me a slave.

It seems that religion (and lack of it) is a label of in-group/out-group enmity and vendetta, not any worse than other labels such as skin color, language, or preferred sports team, but often available when other labels are not.

[down-ndirty]

For all have sinned and fell short of the glory of God. That''''s why the Messiah, the Lord Jesus Christ, did what HE did on the cross for our sins. He died and was risen for us!
Posted by libagenda at 09:35 PM : May 03, 2008


So, god incarnated himself as a man so that he could be tortured and executed in atonement for the hereditary sin of Adam. Isn''t that sado-***?

Ever since Paul expounded this doctrine, Jesus has been worshipped as the redeemer of all our sins, whether we decided to commit them or not?

Even babies?

[down-ndirty]

"If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple. And whosoever doth not bear his cross, and come after me, cannot be my disciple."- Lu 14:26,27

If that doesn''t sound like a cult leader, I don''t know what does.

[nothappyatall]

Jesus warned us of all the things we need to know that will happen to us..

Posted by cfin5

So in other words all the death, killings, disease "accidents" that really are not accidents but PLANNED, was PRE-PLANNED in advance like the script for a sick horror movie, just as I said, so then it doesn''t make a dam bit of difference what we do because its all pre-planned long in advance by a creator who knew exactly who would do what when and why.
Thanks for clarifying THAT!

[cfin5]

newster1,.....Jesus warned us of all the things we need to know that will happen to us....John 16:1-4,...These things have I spoken unto you, that ye should not be offended. They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service. And these things will they do unto you, because they have not known the Father, nor me. But these things have I told you, that when the time shall come, ye may remember that I told you of them. And these things I said not unto you at the beginning, because I was with you..........Later, the yellow sponge are up and ready with this great weather. We''ve already found almost 200 this week. You have a nice day.

[nothappyatall]

They have an evil mission to destroy christianity, which of course they will fail every time,

Posted by libaTARD

And your christian history was one of trying to destroy all non christians if they refused to convert into YOUR brand of god worship, but you LOST, the church LOST power, you can no longer BURN people at the stake or steal their property "for the lord"
The church and its sheeple are riddled with corruption, hypocracy, subversion and pedo priests. Hopefully the lawsuits will be the beginning of the END of it.

Face it, the church and religion are LOSERS.

[cfin5]

This article is a prime example of the warning the Apostle Paul said would happen after his departure,....fierce wolves would devour the flock and would not spare. Consider the fact that Paul had raised someone from the dead in the name of the Lord, and yet the Bereans were considered more noble and commended by the Holy Spirit as they still checked out everything Paul said to see if his words lined up with the Old Testament scriptures. No one wants to do this these days. They want to rely on their feelings instead of what the Book of the Lord says. They then lose their spiritual discernment needed to test the wiles of the Devil. Speaking of discernment, it is like what taste buds do on the tongue being able to taste the difference of two piles of white crystals that appear the same, but one is salt and the other is sugar. Spiritual discernment tastes the difference between truth and error.

[nothappyatall]

Fatal Heresy- what CHRISTIANITY ala RIck''s book of death has brought us;



Although members of other religions obviously suffered at the hands of good Christians throughout the Middle Ages, it should not be forgotten that other Christians suffered just as much. Augustine''''''''s exhortion to compel entry into the church was used with great zeal when church leaders dealt with Christians who daredto follow a different sort of religious path. This was not always the case - during the first millennium, death was a rare penalty. But in the 1200s, shortly after the beginning of the crusades against the Muslims, wholly European crusades against Christian dissidents were enacted.
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This sort of action was not an isolated event - indeed, it was repeated throughout Europe by all sorts of crusading hordes. The lucky Jews were given a last-minute chance to convert to Christianity in accord with Augustines doctrines. Even other Christians were not safe from the Christian crusaders. As they roamed the countryside, they spared no effort in pillaging towns and farms for food. When Peter the Hermit''''''''s army entered Yugoslavia, 4,000 Christian residents of the city of Zemun were massacred before they moved on to burn Belgrade.

[nothappyatall]

The Jews will never accept Jesus as the messiah for many reasons
posted by down-ndirty

Shows how much you''''ve read my comments.
Posted by libagenda

No one is reading YOUR krap RICK, you post the same tired old gezus garbage and we are all sick of it, go mow the lawn and be sure to be careless with the gas can, we need a good story in this week''s paper!

[quetzal0666]

libagenda....

The modern day jews immigrating to Ishreal are white,
the Jews of ancient times have more in common with modern day Palestinians.

[truthyness]

This guy sounds like Obama and his Uncle Jeremiah Wright.

[nothappyatall]

One of the most famous examples of religious violence in the Middle Ages is of course the Crusades - attempts by European Christians to impose their vision of religion upon Jews, Orthodox Christians, heretics, Muslims, and just about anyone else who happened to get in the way.
Hardly a noble quest in foreign lands, the Crusades represented the worst in religion generally and in Christianity specifically. The broad historical outlines of the Crusades are available in most history books
Two systems which emerged in the church deserve special mention has having contributed greatly: penance and indulgences. Penance was a type of worldly punishment, and a common form was a pilgrimage to the Holy Lands. Pilgrims resented the fact that sites holy to Christianity were not controlled by Christians, and they were easily whipped into a state of agitation and hatred towards Muslims.

[nothappyatall]

Not to be outdone, throngs of crusaders in the Rhine valley followed a goose believed to be enchanted by god to be their guide. I''''m not sure that they got very far, although they did manage to join other armies following Emich of Leisingen who asserted that a cross miraculously appeared on his chest, certifying him for leadership. Showing a level of rationality consistent with their choice of leaders, Emich''''s followers decided that before they traveled across Europe to kill god''s enemies, it would be a good idea to eliminate the infidels in their midst. Thus suitably motivated, they proceeded to massacre the Jews in German cities like Mainz and Worms. Thousands of defenseless men, women and children were chopped, burned or otherwise slaughtered.

[nothappyatall]

When Muslim cities were captured by Christian crusaders, it was standard operating procedure for all inhabitants - no matter what their age - to be summarily killed. It is not an exaggeration to say that the streets ran red with blood as Christians reveled in church-sanctioned horrors. Jews who took refuge in their synagogues would be burned alive, not unlike the treatment they received in Europe.
Later on, crusading itself was regarded as a holy pilgrimage - thus, people paid penance for their sins by going off and slaughtering adherents of another religion. Indulgences, or waivers of temporal punishment, were granted by the church to anyone who contributed monetarily to the bloody campaigns.
ens of thousands of peasants followed Peter the Hermit who displayed a letter he claimed was written by god and delivered to him personally by Geezus. This letter was supposed to be his credentials as a Christian leader, and perhaps he was indeed qualified - in more ways than one.

[nothappyatall]

Fatal Heresy

Although members of other religions obviously suffered at the hands of good Christians throughout the Middle Ages, it should not be forgotten that other Christians suffered just as much. Augustine''''s exhortion to compel entry into the church was used with great zeal when church leaders dealt with Christians who daredto follow a different sort of religious path. This was not always the case - during the first millennium, death was a rare penalty. But in the 1200s, shortly after the beginning of the crusades against the Muslims, wholly European crusades against Christian dissidents were enacted.
=======

This sort of action was not an isolated event - indeed, it was repeated throughout Europe by all sorts of crusading hordes. The lucky Jews were given a last-minute chance to convert to Christianity in accord with Augustine''''s doctrines. Even other Christians were not safe from the Christian crusaders. As they roamed the countryside, they spared no effort in pillaging towns and farms for food. When Peter the Hermit''''s army entered Yugoslavia, 4,000 Christian residents of the city of Zemun were massacred before they moved on to burn Belgrade.

[nothappyatall]

In 1208, Pope Innocent III raised an army of over 20,000 knights and peasants eager to kill and pillage their way through France. When the city of Beziers fell to the besieging armies of Christendom, soldiers asked papal legate Arnald Amalric how to tell the faithful apart from the infidels. He uttered his famous words: "Kill them all. (The big cheese) will know His own." Such depths of contempt and hatred are truly frightening, but they are only possible in the context of a religious doctrine of eternal punishment for unbelievers and eternal reward for believers.

In his reports about the conquest of Jerusalem, Chronicler Raymond of Aguilers wrote that "It was a just and marvelous judgment of (The big cheese), that this place [the temple of Solomon] should be filled with the blood of the unbelievers." St. Bernard announced before the Second Crusade that "The Christian glories in the death of a pagan, because thereby Christ himself is glorified."

Sometimes, atrocities were excused as actually being merciful. When a crusader army broke out of Antioch and sent the besieging army into flight, the Christians found that the abandoned Muslim camp was filled with the wives of the enemy soldiers. Chronicler Fulcher of Chartres happily recorded for posterity that "...the Franks did nothing evil to them [the women] except pierce their bellies with their lances."

[nothappyatall]

Dozens of other heretical groups suffered the same fate - condemnation, excommunication, repression and eventually death. Christians did not shy away from killing their own religious brethern when even minor theological differences arose. For them, perhaps no differences were truly minor - all doctrines were a part of the True Path to heaven, and deviation on any point challenged the authority of the church and the community. It was a rare person who dared to stand up and make independent decisions about religious belief, made all the more rare by the fact that they were massacred as fast as possible.
The first victims were the Albigenses, sometimes called the Cathari, who were centered primarily in southern France. These poor freethinkers doubted the biblical story of Creation, thought that Geezus was an angel instead of (The big cheese), rejected transubstantiation, and demanded strict celibacy. History has taught that celibate religious groups generally tend to die out sooner or later, but contemporary church leaders weren''''t anxious to wait. The Cathari also took the dangerous step of translating the biBULL into the common language of the people, which only served to further enrage religious leaders.