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- jday272486 - Very good point, and I agree with that... Who gets the payday though?
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- It''s not like the Bush WH has lied previously...
In the aftermath of the Sept. 11, 2001, attack on the World Trade Center, the White House instructed the Environmental Protection Agency to give the public misleading information, telling New Yorkers it was safe to breathe when reliable information on air quality was not available.
That finding is included in a report released Friday by the Office of the Inspector General of the EPA. It noted that some of the agency''s news releases in the weeks after the attack were softened before being released to the public: Reassuring information was added, while cautionary information was deleted.
"When the EPA made a September 18 announcement that the air was ''safe'' to breathe, it did not have sufficient data and analyses to make such a blanket statement," the report says. "Furthermore, the White House Council on Environmental Quality influenced . . . the information that EPA communicated to the public through its early press releases when it convinced EPA to add reassuring statements and delete cautionary ones." - Reply to this comment
- MY ID ON CBS???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? WHAT KIND OF SCREEN NAME IS THAT?
QUICK....HOW MANY ?''S ID....
YOU MUST BE A SCIENTIST...
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- Where there is smoke, there is fire...
Scientists doing climate research for the federal government say the Bush administration has made it hard for them to speak forthrightly to the public about global warming. The result, the researchers say, is a danger that Americans are not getting the full story on how the climate is changing.
Employees and contractors working for the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, along with a U.S. Geological Survey scientist working at an NOAA lab, said in interviews that over the past year administration officials have chastised them for speaking on policy questions; removed references to global warming from their reports, news releases and conference Web sites; investigated news leaks; and sometimes urged them to stop speaking to the media altogether. Their accounts indicate that the ideological battle over climate-change research, which first came to light at NASA, is being fought in other federal science agencies as well.
These scientists -- working nationwide in research centers in such places as Princeton, N.J., and Boulder, Colo. -- say they are required to clear all media requests with administration officials, something they did not have to do until the summer of 2004. Before then, point climate researchers
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/04/05/AR2006040502150_pf.html - Reply to this comment
- No mention of the reduced logging in the past 20 years because of the spotted owl. If there had been more clear cutting and thinning there would not be as many forest fires.
Why are we burning up forests that could be logged? Instead we are burning millions of acreas every year that benefits no one.
Why not clear cut large tracts of land so there would be breaks between large segments of lands.
No mention of this just the liberal environmental angle.
You should contact the helicopter companies that fight the fires and also do helicopter logging. They see the issue in a much different perspective.
But you choose to show only one point of view. - Reply to this comment
- foolishru asks, "Since when is this about the president or political parties?"
Maybe you haven''t been paying attention. One of the political parties REQUIRES you to believe that global warming is a "myth", because it might cut into those humongous oil company profits if we did anything to fix it. So, rather than being an issue that is discussed rationally, by scientists, it becomes a chance for the rabid Bushies to spout more of their lies.
Despite the political overtones, scientists HAVE been discussing this matter rationally for many years. The overwhelming consensus is that global warming is real, not just something made up by Al Gore. A very small number of well-paid pseudo-scientists disagree. If you''re a member of the Repugnant party, you are required to ignore the consensus, and believe the radical nut jobs who deny global warming.
Everything''s political to a political tool.
Everything''s religious to a believer.
Reality be dammed! - Reply to this comment
- UBREW...HELLOOOOOOOOOOOO.....TIME TO WAKE UP...HEY,HEY HEY...ARE YOU OK, WOW, THOUGHT YOU HAD A STROKE OR SOMETHING....
HOW NICE OF YOU to let us know that 10 thousand years ago, your sweet sierra mountains were bristling with dew....C''mon, chief...were you there??? I guess if your real name was a little more biblical I could believe you, but seriously....
Those who put too much faith in science leave no room for faith in "the man" (GOD for dognut libs).
You should have a healthy balance of BOTH to allow your brain to grow...INTERESTING CONCEPT, EH CHIEF?
"SCIENCE" can''t cure the common cold...but they can tell you the size of the nipples on a bronto babeasouras 10 million years ago?
Helloooooooooo....just till (relatively)recently the "scientists" discovered asbestos causes cancer....uh oh...they let billions get exposed in the mean time...
How many years you been given your child cold medicine??? Uh oh....maybe you shouldn''t...
My point is, don''t believe everything you hear, chief, next thing you know the "scientists" will find something wrong with VIAGRA!!!
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- curse914:
when SharmCedar says past droughts "depopulated whole native american cities in the southwest" he''s talking about the warming associated with the end of last ice age and the retreat of the glaciers. We already know that, TODAY, the SW is largely a desert, incapable of supported agrarian subsistence populations in large numbers. Too bad the Anasazi didn''t know it when it was happening.
What does this have to do with Global Warming?... nothing, which SharmCedar already knows. We''re talking about places as far north as Idaho becoming desertified due to CO2. That''s a different problem, with a different solution. - Reply to this comment
- Wow, the people in control have a lot of influence on main stream media, and for that part control over certain "distinct" organizations, I''m curious what else they control. When they want the topic to be global warming they make it global warming, huh?
Anyway, on the flip side of that. I was reading a Times article about the global warming actually melting a hole so ships could make a shipping lane across the artic Atlantic to the Pacific. Now, I am curious, if that is where the gulf stream cools and the down current spot for the ocean currents that determine our weather, what happens when the Gulfs water can flow through to the Pacific? They didn''t touch on that scenario for my information. - Reply to this comment
- Megafires WAS NOT accurate reporting - I knew they would bring up global warming as the cause. These megafires can be blamed "in part" to ALL the environmental issues out there.......... we have to leave the forests "natural"....... we can''t harvest burned timber....... this is NOT managing our forests.... and by the environmentalist NOT WILLING to work with the timber management and lock everything up in the courts ..... that people is where the BIG blame lies. In Central Oregon we had the Biscuit Fire a few years ago...... guess what ..... it is bug-infested and a tenderbox waiting to explode AGAIN....... thanks to the environmentalists..... if they TRULY cared about the forest they would leave their EGOS at the door and come to valid logical agreements with all timber industry.......... something else to think about..... when Mt. St Helens blew...... one side of the road was left natural and the other side of the road was planted and managed by the timber industry..... which side do you think is THRIVING..... the planted side....... people THINK !!
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- Some firefighter''s wife pointed out, "the 20 year drought was not mentioned in this program."
That is just more evidence of global warming. It reinforces the central point of the story, rather than negating it. So yes, he should have included that info in this story. - Reply to this comment
- Mr. t-i-t-s and beer says, "YOU LIBS: JUST DONT GET IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Interesting! That''s exactly what we think about you mo/rons who, when faced with the fact that the world is heating up and the fact that human activity significantly contributes to that temperature rise, coupled with the fact that even a few degree average increase in temperature will cause massive disruption in the world, just keep their heads buried in the sand and hope it will all just "go away" if we do nothing about it.
The level of stu/pidity that is required to be a practicing Bushite is astounding!
(BTW, ONE single exclammation point is usually sufficient. Perhaps you can use 2 or 3 if you REALLY want to be enthusiastic. But, using 22 just makes you appear to be spastic.) - Reply to this comment
- Speak for yourself on that one, SHARNCEDAR. Your analogy is flawed and flakey, but if it works for you..enjoy it! One bit of advice, if you can''t handle it, you should
LAY OFF THE HUSTLERS AND 12 PACKS!!
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- foolishru,SharnCedar, tiddsandbeer:
The desertification of the West and SE has begun, due to climate change. When several-century old Ponderosa''s start dying by fire, the times have changed. Get on board and realize it ''could'' be a big deal, cuz even if American''s decide to do something about it (which probably would NOT require much sacrifice), convincing the future''s REAL polluters (Chinese, Latin, Indian) is going to be VERY difficult.
As someone who has backpacked extensively in the Sierra Nevada, I can tell you the high country has changed (its gotten ALOT drier). This is NOT natural climate warming (10,000 yr wavelength). This is global warming (200 yr wavelength). - Reply to this comment
- And now a reading from the Hitchhikers guide to Republican science.
4. Population
It is known that there are an infinite number of worlds, simply because there is an infinite amount of space for them. However, not every one of them is inhabited. Therefore, there must be a finite number of inhabited worlds. Any finite number divided by infinity is as near to nothing as makes no odds, so the average population of all the planets in the Universe can be said to be zero. From this it follows that the population of the whole Universe is also zero, and that any people you may meet from time to time are merely the products of a deranged imagination. - Reply to this comment
- Ya''ll are plain stupid! Since when is this about the president or political parties?
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- "Swetnam found recent decades have been the hottest in 1,000 years."
But the repugs keep on denying the obvious. I have to wonder, how could they be that stu/pid? Bush tells them to doubt global warming, so they do! Apparently there isn''t a single one of them who can think for himself.
The GOP: ********* Obnoxious Peabrains!!! - Reply to this comment
- AGAIN, I say, With the IQ of a dirty set of dognuts, you LIBS drank the koolaid, started comparing cat terds and tootsie rolls out in the sandbox, found a little diversity in them and found them to be "equal"....
You saw AL GONES "INCONVIENIANT TRUTH" and sucked up all the lies that were portrayed as fact with no regard to historical facts. You sucked it ALL UP....LIKE A BELUSHI HAIRBALL...and you feel good inside....isn''t that ALL that matters to you folks??
Isn''t that what it means to be a liberal is these days?? If it feels good, just do it?? Just believe it?? Just say yes?? Just put the condom on the cucumber?? Just give the little girl BIRTH CONTROL PILLS?? ...YAY!! SALLY''S ON THE PILL!!! AFTER SCHOOL, WHEN SHE''S FINISHED PLAYING WITH HER DOLLS, WE CAN HAVE SOME REAL FUN NOW!!
YOU LIBS:
JUST
DONT
GET IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YEAH
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- This was the worst news report I have ever seen on wild fires. 1. Hotshots aren''t the only crews out fighting fires. There are Engines, helitac crews and Hand crews. 2. Tom Boatner?? ***!?!?! Nice made up title! He is NOT "chief of fire operations for the federal government" Maybe for his forest or district. But those are usually called, AFMO''s or FMO''S. 3. It is so convenient that the 20 year drought was not mentioned in this program. This is a large reason for the amount of fires added to the neglegant acts of campers.
Kkemper, you don''t have to lie to be cool. Not every fire has the capability of being put out in 6 hours. I would like to know just exactly what your title is and your affiliation with the Forest Service / BLM is. Also, I would like to know if you are aware of just how little $ these guys actually make given the risk of the job? Are you aware of the "seasonal" vs "permanant" employess. Are you familiar with the large amount of Lay Off''s at the end of Fire Season? For you to state that this is a money scandal of sorts is a large embelishment on your part and seems to be a cry for attention.
Sign me,
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- This is an interesting new big lie. It looks like the press is now creating a new bogeyman to fascinate that intelligent American public.
What is great about the "climate change" scare story is that it has happened in the past in America, for example there have been extensive droughts which depopulated whole native american cities in the southwest. So it makes a great story. The idea that we ourselves are somehow responsible is very Catholic, very ominous like the slasher movies where the people who get killed are somehow bad people.
We did something wrong, we will be punished. We can have this wonderful, engaging story told to us, without the need for a God or external entity or any postulation of a spiritual world at all. "Climate change" the movie is cast as entirely based on something called science. It gives all the chills and thrills of Sunday morning preachers while still denying there is any spiritual world, still acting like capitalistic nilhism is a valid point of view. - Reply to this comment
