5 hardest and easiest college majors by GPA's
Why aren't more college students earning degrees in engineering and the sciences?
About one out of three college students intend to pursue a STEM major, which stands for science, technology, engineering and math, but most never make it.
A new study from Wake Forest University suggests that a huge reason why so many students abandon their pursuit of science and engineering majors is this: Their professors are grading too hard.
Students, who hope to be science and engineering majors, get discouraged by their grades, which are significantly lower than students in other disciplines. Consequently, they flee for easier "A's". Male students are more likely to bail because of grades than would-be women STEM majors.
Kevin Rask, an economics professor at Wake Forest, drew that conclusion after reviewing the records of more than 5,000 students, who graduated from an unnamed elite liberal arts college in the Northeast from 2001 to 2009.
During this period, the science geeks earned grades that were consistently below other students. Brainy STEM graduates left their school with four out of the five lowest grade point averages:
5 Lowest Grade Point Averages
- Chemistry - 2.78 GPA
- Math - 2.90 GPA
- Economics - 2.95 GPA
- Psychology - 2.98 GPA
- Biology - 3.02 GPA
5 Highest Grade Point Averages
- Education - 3.36 GPA
- Language - 3.34 GPA
- English - 3.33 GPA
- Music - 3.30 GPA
- Religion - 3.22 GPA
At a recent conference at Cornell, Rask talked about his STEM major findings:
"The importance of grades can't be understated," the economist said. "The differential in grade inflation inside and outside STEM majors is consistent and an important factor in the attrition."
It seems to me that the best way to produce more scientists and engineers might be to get the professors in those fields to lighten up on their grades. Do the students, who are brave enough to wrestle with organic chemistry and multivariable calculus, need to be crushed at exam time?
The alternative is to get the professors in departments like education and English to grade harder, but I just don't see that ever happening.
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CBS really dropped the ball on this one.
While GPAs show book smarts, real world experience takes time to build - college is just a starting point people have taken in good faith.
But companies seem to want "instant gratification", will not train from within, effectively demand workers go back to college (and have the workers pay every cent when it wasn't that harsh in the past), and after all that they then say the graduates are not adequately educated!! Methinks there's a tiny disconnect, somewhere... or multiple disconnects, obviously...
And "attrition" is going on toward the working class in the new normal, insanely higher prices (up over 432% between 1982 and now and the wages have increased by respective ratios to compensate), and ALSO noting the concept of grade inflation as put out by instructors by order of their administrators to make the colleges look better, what if the problems are worse than what the article indicates?
Happy researching.
On my first day campus at a Big Ten university in the early 60s in the School of Engineering I attended a student orientation meeting
The first thing they said was: "Look at the person on your right and left - they won't be here next year."
I will concur with the opinion that they tested harder. In my opinion the freshman and sophomore years were the worst - the tests were designed mainly to wash out those who weren't committed. I was the only one of 7 in my high school graduating class (not the smartest by any means) who attended that university, that graduated with a degree. We were all going for technical degrees, but I really wanted to be an engineer. The others didn't flunk out, they dropped out for reasons known only to them.
It was not easy - it was a tough college. I flunked 2 or 3 courses and had to retake them, but I learned how to study more effectively and did finally graduate in 5 years with the satisfaction that I had beaten the system.
In any case, a very strange conclusion seems to be drawn from this cursory comparison of the average GPA's of different majors: that a degree in Psychology is more difficult, for example, than a degree in English. And more generally that the GPA's reflect the difficulty of the majors instead of the students' abilities.
Since a graduate's GPA results from grades for classes in other disciplines during the first two years of college, at least three other conclusions could be reached:
1. Those with the lowest GPA do worse in all of their classes, including English, History, a required foreign language, and their own discipline.
2. Those with the highest GPA's do better because they are simply better students.
And by the way, why is Economics listed as a science in this study? Surely we know better than that.
Many of my classes graded using a normal distribution, so that the average was a C. In my calculus and physics classes, many of us ended up with C's & D's that would otherwise be solid B's. I still remember getting an 87% on one Multivariate Calculus test that was a D because the rest of the class did so strongly! The break down was 100-97 were A's, 96-94:B 93 - 88:C; 87-85:D; 84 and below F!
One physics professor used multiple choice exams - each set contained the correct calculation's answer and the 4 most common mistakes.
Looking back - did these approaches make me a better, more thorough & careful, and humbler engineer? I have to say YES! Would I be the same person if my professors had "lightened up on grading"? No! Because of these approaches, I tried harder, and have a stronger recall level for these classes material than I do with my MBA material.
I disagree with PULA_RORKN that grades are "no big deal". Your GPA is so crucial to getting that first job or grad school admission. Many students opt out of STEM programs so that they are not left trying to convince hiring managers that their 2.98 GPA is not as reflective of abilities & knowledge as someone with a higher GPA from another program with grade inflation. This is especially hard with some employers (and grad-schools) that reject candidates with a sub 3.0 GPA in the per-screening process. You'll never get the chance to make the case!
Today, students going in to college know that GPA has a lot more weight on both getting that first job and/or into grad school which can impact the rest of your life.