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Jill Schlesinger /

MoneyWatch/ November 2, 2012, 9:01 AM

Unemployment rises to 7.9 percent; 171K jobs added

(MoneyWatch) The U.S. economy added 171,000 new jobs in October and the unemployment rate inched up to 7.9 percent from last month's reading of 7.8 percent; August and September job creation totals were revised higher by a total of 84,000, putting average monthly job creation this year at 157,000, slightly ahead of the 2011 pace of 153,000.

Despite the uptick in the jobless rate, economists said the latest data show that the labor market is improving. The number of employed adults relative to the broader population, a key measure of the job market's health, rose to 58.8 percent, its highest level since August of 2009.

The number of people seeking full-time positions who are forced to work part-time also fell by 269,000 jobs. In another sign of progress, more people are voluntarily quitting their jobs, suggesting that they have more confidence about their chances of finding a better job.

"The October payroll survey showed a brighter picture of the labor market, both in faster headline job creation and in upward revisions to previous months," said Nigel Gault, chief U.S. economist for IHS Global Insight, in a statement. "There was good news in both construction and retail employment, consistent with the better news coming in from the housing market and with an improving consumer mood."

Although job growth has picked up in recent weeks, it is not accelerating fast enough to rapidly shrink unemployment. At the current rate of job-creation, the economy would not return to full employment until around the end of the decade.

Some data in the latest job report also highlight the economy's continuing struggles. The average number of hours employees work per week also were revised down to 34.4 in September and were unchanged in October. Growth in weekly hours indicates that employers may plan to boost hiring.

Employee pay also remains stagnant. The annual growth rate of average hourly earnings fell to 1.6 percent last month, a 26-year low, according to research firm Capital Economics.

Because this is the last jobs report before Election Day, it's worth noting that no president since Franklin Delano Roosevelt has won re-election with a jobless rate higher than 7.4 percent. FDR won a second term in 1936, when the rate was 17 percent, down from 22 percent when he was first elected. The last president since the Great Depression to win re-election with a rate of 7.4 percent or higher was Ronald Reagan in 1984.

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October jobs report: Unemployment at 7.9 percent

The FDR example may be a more appropriate template for this election, because while the recession suffered in the early 1980s was severe, it was not associated with a systemic banking crisis. According to economists Carmen M. Reinhart and Kenneth S. Rogoff, authors of "This Time Is Different: Eight Centuries of Financial Folly," the recession which began in December 2007 was the first since the Great Depression where the U.S. economy experienced a systemic crisis. Before that, notable systemic post-Civil War financial crises occurred in 1873, 1893 and 1907.

Clearly, the Great Depression dwarfs the recent Great Recession. In the four years between 1929 and 1933, the United States economy shrunk by one-third and unemployment soared to 25 percent, from 3 percent. The Great Recession inflicted far less damage on the economy, with output shrinking 4.7 percent from the start of the recession in December 2007 until it ended in June 2009. Just before the beginning of the recession, the unemployment rate was 5 percent and it peaked at 10 in October 2009, before heading lower to today's 7.9 percent.

The jobs market has been a disappointment over the past four years. From 2009 to early 2010, millions of jobs were lost before the economy steadied and slowly, job creation crept up. Unfortunately, of the 8.8 million jobs lost during the financial crisis, only about half have been added back. Still, the old Wall Street chestnut "the trend is your friend" may be at play in this election, as it was in 1936.

If voters view the Great Recession as an extreme event, which no president since FDR had to confront, and they focus on the slow improvement to the labor market, then Obama will win. If voters believe that Obama's policies were not the right ones to turn around the jobs market faster, despite the unique circumstances, they will elect Romney.

October jobs:

-- Jobs created: +171K  (Sep: revised to +148K from +114K, Aug: revised to +192K from +142K)

-- Private jobs created: 184K

-- Government jobs lost: -13K

-- Unemployment rate: 7.9% (from 7.8%)

-- Broad unemployment rate: 14.6% (includes the official rate plus "marginally attached workers," those who are neither working nor looking for work, but say they want a job and have looked for work recently; and people who are employed part-time for economic reasons, meaning they want full-time work but took a part-time schedule instead because that's all they could find)

-- Total unemployed: 12.3 million

-- Long-term unemployed: 5 million, representing 40.6 percent of the total unemployed

-- Average duration of unemployment: 40.2 weeks (high level for 2012)

-- Participation rate: 63.8 ( below the 66% to 67% rate that was normal over the last 20 years; 2/3 of recent decline is due to demographics)

-- Average work week: 34.4

-- Hourly earnings: $23.58 (Over the past 12 months, up 1.6%)

-- Retail: +36K

-- Health services: +31K

-- Leisure/Hospitality: +28K

-- Construction: +17K

Editor's note: CBS MoneyWatch initially published an Associated Press story on the unemployment report, which we have since replaced with this staff-written article. You can find the initial AP report and reader comments here.

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cjauregui10 says:
If the election results are substantially different than what the alphabet national networks have been telling us, then we know Obama has promised change and delivered to us a socialist-totalitarian police state where the media and journalists are under the complete control and financing of the White House. We'll know this one way or the other on Tuesday. It's one of the most important "dots" for us to connect.
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wildbilltoo says:
Republicans are contorting to make a tenth of one-percent uptick in unemployment a big deal and hope Americans don't notice that it's down from over 9% to 7.9% in the last year. And the value of people's homes coming back up steadily. Jobs being added. And nobody but nobody has cut Social Security or Medicare despite the Republican lies. But Romney's running mate and his Ryan Plan sure would -- gut both programs, phase them out, people under 55 would immediately no longer have Medicare coming, they would get a voucher or "premium support" to go buy it from the Republicans' friend, the insurance companies. Look it up.
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MyNewone says:
Obama taking credit for "" temporary holiday hires ""
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dj_chi replies:
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Uh, there's mechanisms to factor that into the numbers. They aren't just used to goose the report around Xmas.
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hypnotoad72 says:
How does austerity save the middle class?

Is there no value in labor?

Why do people support a man who offshored jobs and pocket the difference as "profit"?

If he freely exploits the Chinese, why do you people think he will help instead of exploit you?

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2012/06/22/504690/romney-doesnt-dispute-he-helped-send-jobs-overseas-tells-press-to-call-it-offshoring-not-outsourcing/?mobile=nc

Simple logic.
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Freedom_2012 says:
US population Jul 1, 2012 313.85 million Jul 1, 2011 311.59 million
So take 313,850,000 - 311,590,000 = 226,000,000
Divide by 12 months = 188,333 which would be US population growth each month.
Figure above states 171,000 jobs are added and Liberal press says that progress????
It doesn't even keep up with the population growth. Simple Arithmetic.

Romney Ryan all the way to the White House!
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Frankftw replies:
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Meaningless. The population growth increase are BABIES who will not be working for 16 years (well, Gingrinch wants poor minority children to work as janitors) but what is important is how many people are entering the workforce. And your math is wrong

"So take 313,850,000 - 311,590,000 = 226,000,000"
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TimeToEvolve says:
Robbed Me is a failed businessman. Businesses also are set up to help the workers, it is a two way street. Yet 20% of the corporate raiding Bain Capital companies FAILED. And how many factories has Bain shipped to China? How many Americans lost their jobs because of that?

This is a slimy, corrupt and greedy parasite.
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JoeIndependent replies:
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By your math if 20% failed then 80% didn't. Obama would eat his dog to have 80% success rate on anything he has been involved in.

Unemployment rate is higher than when he became president four years ago. That's not success for America, that's FAILURE!!!

He has been the most Partisan president I can remember, period. Electing Obama means four more years of no progress for America, and that's not acceptable.
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ammo17 says:
these are part-time holiday jobs,retail stores and package delivery companies are doing the hiring.what company in their right mind would hire full time employees?who could afford the price of obamacare?nobody!if we don`t have a change in the whitehouse after this election the next four years will definetly put us in a depression.
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me_nz says:
If you right wing nuts think Obama is doing such a bad job look outside the US just for once look at countires like the UK where we have been having a good old cut government fest in the middle of a recession not just 1 but a double dip recession bouncing along the bottom with growth figures nothing like yours You have had 13 straight quarters of growth we have had 1 and that was because of the Olympics. Look at any country in Europe that has gone down that dumb path of cutting back on the government in the middle of a recession is it working hell no 25% unemplyment or more. It didn't work for Hover its not working anywhere else in teh world at the moment why in the hell do you think its gonna make you better off.The time to cut was when Bush had a growing economy how about starting by not fighting a needless stupid war in Iraq that cost you billions or cutting taxes for for the rich. Why in the hell do you think more of those same failed policies with Romney is gonna help you. Stick with Obama and count your blessings you idiots.
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sickbirds says:
American Citizens are being cheated out of available jobs...

"Just this week, the Center for Immigration studies released analysis of government data that shows two-thirds of the job gains since 2009 have gone to immigrant workers. This follows a decade ending in 2010 where all of the net employment gains went to foreign-born workers. Immigration is good for new immigrants and cheap labor advocates, but it does not put Americans back to work."

http://cis.org/who-got-jobs-during-obama-presidency
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Frankftw replies:
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The Center of Immigration Studies is a hate group, started in 1985 by a Michigan ophthalmologist named John Tanton — a man known for his racist statements about Latinos, his decades-long flirtation with white nationalists and Holocaust deniers, and his publication of ugly racist materials.
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phillyfanaticoldtimer says:
Underemployment is really around 14% and even the lemming libs know it. 4 years of failure , and white guilt and a walk on the beach with Christie is supposed to make voters forget Obamacare, joblessness, debt, deficits, taxes, regs, no border solutions, a war on US energy like coal, oil, gas. Please. Enough. This guy has ruined free enterprise and dissed our military as well as Israel . He has made a war on rel. conscience ala Catholics, Evangelicals, Prots and Jews on issues like abortion. And people want this DIVIDER IN CHIEF. That is insanity. America cannot stand 4 more years of this Chicago community organizer, the worse Prez in my 73 yrs.
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me_nz replies:
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Oh yeah how about that idiot Bush that last great republican icon you elected TWICE. The idiot that set this up the who presided over the biggest growth in the deficit ever by doing exactly what this MORON Romney wants to do cut taxes for the rich while starting two wars. Who's failure to regulate and control the bankers got you into this mess. How about the 1877 who died in Kartrina on his watch or the 2977 on 9/11 on his watch then started a war in Iraq over non-existent weapons of mass destruction that killed another 4400 + Americans not to mention all those others then failed to get Bin Laden. You must be going senile or your a flat out racist if you think Obama is worse than that. You proof that age and wisdom do not always go hand in hand.
AlabamaPete replies:
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No way in hell that match workd out unemployement cant go up and the same time employment go up. Not possible. CBS and the liberal lieing media will be shutdown once Romney wins.
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