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Jill Schlesinger /

MoneyWatch/ July 6, 2012, 8:53 AM

Jobs report: Tepid number reflects weak growth

(MoneyWatch) The government said the economy added 80,000 jobs in June and the unemployment rate remained at 8.2 percent. You can't blame Americans, who are channeling their kids in the back seat of the car on a long summer road trip, begging the question, "Aren't we there yet?"

Sadly, the answer is no, we are not there yet.

Five years ago this month, the subprime crisis began. On July 24, 2007, Countrywide Mortgage warned of "difficult conditions" and the following week, Bear Stearns liquidated two large funds that were heavily invested in subprime mortgages gone sour. While it would take most of the world six more months to realize something really bad was brewing, with the benefit of hindsight, it's clear that July 2007 marked a turning point.

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Sure, it was hard to know at the time. After all, it was a month after the economy, as measured by GDP, grew by 3.6 percent and when the unemployment rate was 4.6 percent. (An unemployment rate of 5 to 6 percent is typical of a healthy economy, so sub-5 percent was an anomaly). But Countrywide and Bear Stearns were the canaries in the coal mine and the health of those birds was clearly ailing.

Many are wondering why the economy and the jobs market are not better off five years later. The answer can be found in the seminal work on financial crises, "This Time is Different: Eight Centuries of Financial Folly" by Carmen M. Reinhart and Kenneth S. Rogoff. As the authors note, "financial crises are protracted affairs," so we should have all been prepared for a rough and lengthy recovery.

After reviewing eight centuries of financial crises, Reinhart and Rogoff provided a map of just how long this road trip might take. On the jobs front, they said the unemployment rate rises by an average of 7 percentage points during the down phase of the cycle, which lasts 4.8 years. We actually did a little better that the average: Unemployment increased by 5.4 percentage points from July 2007, when unemployment bottomed at 4.6 percent, to the crisis high of 10 percent in October 2009. Feel better? Me neither.

The overall economy actually fared worse than the eight centuries of data from Reinhart and Rogoff. In their analysis of crises, economic output falls from (peak to trough) 9.3 percent on average and the duration of the downturn is usually two years. U.S. GDP peaked at 3.6 percent in Q2 2007 and cratered at -8.9 percent in Q4 2008, a massive 12.5 percent drop. Perhaps that's why a majority of economists surveyed in the latest Associated Press Economy Survey expect the unemployment rate to stay above 6 percent for at least four more years.

Earlier this year, Carmen Reinhart said "Financial crises cast a long shadow," highlighted by weak economic recoveries and persistently high unemployment. How much longer until we get there? According to Reinhart, the post-crisis shaky period usually lasts as long as the boom that preceded it. The U.S. housing boom lasted 7 years (prices doubled from 2000-2007), which means the job market will still be unhealthy 7 years after the Great Recession officially ended in June 2009. That would be the longest stretch of high unemployment since the end of World War II.

The answer to the question: "Jobs recovery: Are we there yet?" is a resounding, "NOT YET."

June Jobs Report:

-- Jobs created: +80,000 (May revised from +69,000 to +77,000; April revised down to 68,000 from +77,000March: 143,000; Feb: 259,000; Jan: 275,000)

-- Private sector jobs created: +84,000

-- Government: -4,000

-- Unemployment rate: 8.2% (unchanged)

-- Under-employment rate (marginally-attached, part-time): 14.9 percent (from 14.8 percent; in 2007, the rate was 8 percent)

-- Total number of unemployed: 12.7 million (unchanged)

-- Long-term unemployed (jobless for 27 weeks and over): 5.4 million representing 41.9 percent of the total unemployed

-- Average workweek: 34.5 (from 34.4)

-- Average hourly earnings: +$0.06 to $23.50 (up 2 percent over past 12 months)

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smittyc says:
Sadly while the jobs picture is bleak the foreign policy agenda is falling apart. All of our allies in the ME and Afghanistan and Pakistan are demanding more money for their "loyalty". In these nations the masses are at each others throats, burning looting, bombing and murdering each other. Hundreds and hundreds of thousands have been displaced from their homes due to current American foreign policy. The entire ME and afghanistan is going up in flames and American soldiers are being slaughtered by those they trained. One and Done folks.
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Souptwins replies:
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A1SmithE--- Seriously? It's the Nobel Peace prize. Pulitzers are for journalism.
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moretruthnow says:
President Obama certainly has not been against businesses or corporations. He supports fair and just policies that ensure these companies and corporations are legit. It is important that regulations are in place to protect people from unfair tactics. It is important to protect the environment because clean water and clean air is precious. The GOP opposed jobs plans and twiddled their thumbs rather than work with Democrats for the benefit of the economy.
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76SpiritOf replies:
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Exactly! Only a fool would believe otherwise.
retmw2 replies:
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The gop thinks business's will police themselves, well we've seen how well that works.
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Lindag20 says:
Since Dan is tied up with his 20 threads and it's late, I'll call it at night. Bye.
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retmw2 replies:
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Have a good evening.
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smittyc says:
Underemployment has climbed to 14.9%, unemployment is 8.2% and those that have giving up looking account for the drop in unemployment. After two years, unemployed are not counted unemployed by the government. You supporters of the anointed one think spin will win this election? Well there is a burning anger out their with this group, they got the time to vote this November. You should here what they say when the news reports the economy is recovering.
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retmw2 replies:
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Oh those that stopped looking must be those lazy bums you're always talking about.
76SpiritOf replies:
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by retmw2 July 6, 2012 10:42 PM EDT
Oh those that stopped looking must be those lazy bums you're always talking about.
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Thats the way it works! Attention all of you who have not been able to find a job! The GOP thinks you are all lazy bums.

Please remember that in November when it is time to vote. Let's show the arrogant GOP who thinks anyone who have ever lost their job is a bum, that such comments can be costly come election time!
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moretruthnow says:
The economy is recovering and that is no thanks to the GOP of obstruction and opposition. While you were watching Fox News cheering all the GOP obstruction of President Obama's jobs plans you were cutting your nose off to spite your face. Jobs are scare, any job creation by the government is good for the economy. The last day before another big vacation Congress finally did pass the Transportation Bill and voted to keep the student loan interest rate at 3%. Pressure from constituents is what makes these republicans do what is right.
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retmw2 replies:
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One American

How can it be Obama's fault when you have blamed the unions, regulations ect. And you claim the government doesn't create jobs, so it can't be Obama's fault?
76SpiritOf replies:
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Hey One-American,

Does the word Fillabuster have any significance to you?

Do you know what a fillabuster is?
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smittyc says:
Whats wrong with the economy? Hope and Change was a hot air balloon.
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smirk5 says:
Romney has a plan to address the jobs problem in the U.S. He just won't tell us what it is.
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Lindag20 replies:
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Perhaps he's waiting until he's elected to reveal it.
smirk5 replies:
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Lindag20,

It'll be to lower taxes for the rich and to start another war in the Middle East. It'll work about as good as it did for the last two Bush Presidents.
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bbglow says:
If corporate America continues to invest abroad, there is no other choice for the only remaining American taxpayers ... we must invest in ourselves. If it drives the deficit, stop the unfunded protection of corporate investment abroad. If they won't fund it, why should we?
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realtimecoffee says:
Oh no! Justin Bieber Pulled Over for Speeding!
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Lindag20 replies:
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Shame on him!!
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kluzer12 says:
President Obama's only plan is more & more Government stimulus, which adds more and more to our debt. Government can't solve this they must give business incentives to small business to start hiring.

We are not following the same pan Greece & Spain are on. If we don't change our course in November we will be just like them.
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Lindag20 replies:
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Since DEMAND creates jobs, I'm not sure what "incentives" you think small businesses need to start hiring. They'll hire when they can't keep up with the demand for their goods and/or services with existing staff.
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If corporate America continues to invest abroad, there is no other choice for the only remaining American taxpayers ... we must invest in ourselves. If it drives the deficit, stop the unfunded protection of corporate investment abroad. If they won't fund it, why should we?
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