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Constantine von Hoffman /

MoneyWatch/ May 25, 2012, 12:42 PM

Analysts: Europe bank run is under way

AP

(MoneyWatch) It used to be that you knew a bank run was under way when you saw crowds outside a bank trying to get in and get their money. This is another thing that online banking seems to have gotten rid of. Despite the lack of crowds, many analysts believe what had been a "jog" by big European investors (with the exception of Germany) is now a sprint.

On Monday Gavyn Davies, who chairs Fulcrum Asset Management and is an adviser to the British government, wrote in the Financial Times:

A bank run is now happening within the eurozone. So far it has been relatively slow and prolonged, but it is a run nonetheless. And last week, it showed signs of accelerating sharply, in a way which demands an urgent response from policy-makers.

This was followed on Tuesday by a report from Citi analyst Matt King who applied Greece, Ireland, and Portugal's documented withdrawal rates to Spain and Italy:

In Greece, Ireland, and Portugal, foreign deposits have fallen by an average of 52 percent, and foreign government bond holdings by an average of 33 percent, from their peaks. The same move in Spain and Italy, taking into account the fall that has taken place already, would imply a further $272.17 billion and $270.9 billion in capital flight respectively, skewed towards deposits in the case of Spain and towards government bonds in the case of Italy....Economic deterioration, ratings downgrades and especially a Greek exit would almost certainly significantly accelerate the timescale and increase the amounts of these outflows.

EU running out of time as Greece nears the exit
What will happen if Greece leaves the Euro?

The widely read Zero Hedge blog supplemented its report on King's remarks with an amazing set of charts which show how grim the situation is:

Wednesday saw the release of a report from Nomura analysts showing that the exodus of funds wasn't limited to banks and had been increasing since March:

Portfolio investments saw a net outflow of $44.58 billion (compared with February net inflows of $24.2 billion). The main reason behind the negative overall portfolio flows was the activity of eurozone investors, who bought $76.43 billion of foreign assets, mainly bonds and money market instruments. This is the largest foreign investments in almost 1.5 years.

There was further proof of the capital racing out of most of the EU on Thursday as the Financial Times reported: "Some of Europe's biggest fund managers have confirmed they are dumping euro assets amid rising fears over a possible Greek exit from the eurozone and single currency turmoil."

Today's news of Bankia, Spain's 4th largest bank, suspending its stock and Moody's downgrade of some Nordic banks which many had assumed safe has only added fuel to the fire.

Since the financial crisis started, commentators have gone out of their way to avoid using the phrase "bank run" because it is so incendiary. That has changed in the last seven days and the general public has noticed. Searches for for the phrase "bank run" on Google hit at an all-time high this week, outpacing even the weeks after the collapse of Lehman Brothers in 2008.

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jeannutson says:
The increasing rate of capital outflows from banks is even more likely to increase as the financial markets gets more turbulent with Europe's debt crisis deepening and could even lead to the banks taking cost cutting measures that could lead to banking sector job losses.
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Jim1900 says:
Instead of a "bank run", they could call it a marathon.
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hypnotoad72 says:
Like the song goes,

"take the money and run"
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hypnotoad72 says:
And the vicious circle continues to spiral...

I'm sure Greece's government isn't bailing out the corporations and banks that helped lead to this massive mess...
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saucymugwump replies:
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I am certainly no fan of corporations and banks, but Greece's problems largely stem from incompetent government and a lack of tax collection. Deutsche Welle's European Journal reported a few months ago that Greece stupidly slashed the department which collects tax revenues. That department should have been quadrupled in size, not hobbled.
hypnotoad72 replies:
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saucymugwump -

Thanks much for the info...
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saucymugwump says:
Greece's probable next leader, Alexis Tsipras, said that "There is only one path for Europe -- implementing our strategy [of refusing austerity measures, yet still demanding EU bailouts]." See http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/greek-leftist-alexis-tsipras-calls-on-germany-to-drop-austerity-demand-a-834579.html.

But Germany, along with Austria, Finland, the Netherlands, and the new Eastern European countries, are firmly against eurobonds, aka money for nothing. German Bundesbank President Jens Weidmann joined Angela Merkel in denouncing eurobonds. See http://www.dw.de/dw/article/0,,15977530,00.html.

Not much has been said about the Eastern European countries, e.g. the Baltic States, but they already went through severe austerity measures. They survived; they now expect Greece to do the same.

Greece is going to leave the eurozone, one way or the other. It may destroy the EU in the process, however.
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DONTKILLCOPS replies:
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IT IS TIME FOR THE REST OF EUOPE TO PULL THE PLUG ON GREECE. THAT COUNTRY HAS NO RIGHT FOR AID FORM ANYONE AND HAS PLAYED CHICKEN WITHTHE REST OF THE WORLD FOR TOO LONG. GOODBY GREECE.
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muttmuffs says:
If you didn't see this coming, you just haven't been paying attention
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CvonHoffman replies:
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exactly.
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random_radar says:
Don't worry, it can't happen in America. No sir, nothing bad will ever happen to the Dollar, the world's standard for safe currency. Nothing to see here, folks, move along now...
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hypnotoad72 replies:
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Until China, a country that has manipulated everything else and everyone else, tries to demand it becomes a reserve currency, with dingdongs blindly buying into that as well...

The number of articles I've posted in the past cover almost all aspects but from lead to counterfeit components sold to a military, drywall causing allergies and rotting electronics, worker abuse, etc, etc, etc...
smittyc replies:
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Reliance on China could become the worlds waterloo. China had an earthquake in the 70s which destroyed their GDP till the 90s. Previous to that was the 30s quake again destroying their GDP. Both quakes resulted in a change in government.
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dollarskeptic says:
Fiat money, bank runs, bailouts, and fractional reserve banking: a recipe for runaway inflation.

http://dollarskeptic.com/2012/05/25/spanish-bankia-bailout-a-sign-of-coming-inflation/
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dollarskeptic says:
Fiat money, bank runs, bailouts, and fractional reserve banking: a recipe for runaway inflation.

http://dollarskeptic.com/2012/05/25/spanish-bankia-bailout-a-sign-of-coming-inflation/
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secretsquare12 replies:
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"Fiat money, bank runs, bailouts, and fractional reserve banking: a recipe for runaway inflation."

A broken clock is right twice a day...
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