Christine O'Donnell: What She Says about Virgins, Abortion, God
Delaware's Republican nominee for the U.S. Senate, Christine O'Donnell
/ AP/istockphoto(CBS) Tea Party-backed candidate Christine O'Donnell, who pulled off a stunning win for Delaware's Republican Senate nomination on Tuesday, has come under fire from the left for her views on masturbation, abortion, and abstinence.
O'Donnell first offered her views on masturbation in an MTV documentary called "Sex In The 90's" when she said "the Bible says that lust in your heart is committing adultery" and that "You can't masturbate without lust."
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Therefore, she concluded, masturbation is wrong.
O'Donnell believes in a fundamentalist version of sexual "purity" that emphasizes thoughts and feelings as well as deeds. It's a view that resonates with many Americans.
To get another perspective, CBS News contacted former U.S. Surgeon General Dr. Jocelyn C. Elders, another opinionated public figure who was fired from the Clinton White House for her outspoken views on sexuality.
Elders was thrust into the spotlight 15 years ago when she said, in response to a question at a U.N. AIDS conference, that it might be appropriate to teach young people about masturbation to keep them from engaging in riskier sexual behavior.
"I think that it is part of human sexuality, and perhaps it should be taught," Elders said at the time. She was fired soon after.
CBSnews.com: O'Donnell feels that there should be an absolute ban on abortion.
Elders: Rape is a despicable crime. Just as despicable is the idea that women who get pregnant should not have absolute control over their own bodies.
CBSnews.com: O'Donnell wrote in "The Case for Chastity" that she knows many "physical" virgins who are not "sexually pure." That's because these women look at porn, O'Donnell wrote. O'Donnell and her supporters believe that sexuality is "a gift from God," that should be saved for marriage for the purpose of procreation.
Elders: When talking about sexual health, we talk about the three "P's": Procreation, protecting your partner, and pleasure. 99 percent of sexual activity is for pleasure! Every sperm is not meant to be a baby.
CBSnews.com: Christine O'Donnell said, the "Bible says that lust in your heart is committing adultery. You can't masturbate without lust."
Elders: I think she would have a hard time finding support for her views in the Bible. I am a Methodist, a Christian. As a physician, we are sexual beings from birth until death, and the silence [around sexuality], the judging of others, is just wrong.
CBSnews.com: Do you still think about your time in the Clinton White House?
Elders: I loved being your Surgeon General. I said what I felt needed to be said. I have no regrets. President Clinton did what he felt he had to do as president.
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I want to register full agreement with the last part of your statement. Most people don't understand real judgement or hate speech. THey are just being sensitive (rebellious) to an authority letting them know what is right and wrong.
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What is right and what is wrong ???
According to whom ??? YOU ???
You MoronGelical christians are just a bunch of cockroaches and
you are America's equivalent of the Taliban.
Your cousins, the Taliban, think they know what is "right"
and "wrong" too.
I want to register full agreement with the last part of your statement. Most people don't understand real judgement or hate speech. THey are just being sensitive (rebellious) to an authority letting them know what is right and wrong.
=============================
What is right and what is wrong ???
According to whom ??? YOU ???
You MoronGelical christians are just a bunch of cockroaches and
you are America's equivalent of the Taliban.
Your cousins, the Taliban, think they know what is "right"
and "wrong" too.
I want to register full agreement with the last part of your statement. Most people don't understand real judgement or hate speech. THey are just being sensitive (rebellious) to an authority letting them know what is right and wrong.
=============================
What is right and what is wrong ???
According to whom ??? YOU ???
You MoronGelical christians are just a bunch of cockroaches and
you are America's equivalent of the Taliban.
Your cousins, the Taliban, think they know what is "right"
and "wrong" too.
Makes you feel threatened does it? Makes you feel small? Does it make you look at your life and think you fall short? Yes or No, doesn't matter to me, but when someone speaks about their own beliefs, it shouldn't make you squirm if you are confident with yourself and your actions. Your language in your post sums it up for me.
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Apparently reading is not one of your strong points.
Let me simplify my post so that even someone with Palin-level
intelligence (YOU) can understand.
PRACTICE YOUR TWISTED RELIGION IN PRIVATE.
STOP TRYING TO TELL THE REST OF US WHAT TO DO.
I would rather have O'Donnell's views on this subject which will not be legislated than to have the extreme Czars in this administration, rabid spending from those who have been on the government payroll most of their lives as well as those who have not had to run a business or had any reason to know the true worth of the dollar because they have never been without.
Some times I wish people would think about what they say about religious individuals. All the "hate speech" about them is hypocritical from those who complain that the religious are the ones who are bigots.
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You could not be more wrong.
MoronGelical christians are nothing more than cockroaches.
It is way past the time for you and your fellow vermin to
shut the FXCK up and stop trying to broadcast your garbage to
the rest of us.
If you want to live your PERSONAL lives that way ... GREAT.
JUST DO SO IN -PRIVATE- AND LEAVE THE REST OF US ALONE.
Second, the religious (specifically Christians) are merely repeating the LAWS that have been communicated to them. You can "bend" the law of gravity, but you can't officially break it. You can bend the laws of sexuality, but you can't break the emotional laws (lust vs love) attached to our psyche. That is....without consequence.
Some of the readers infer that morality can't be legislated, pointing to the "clean" standards represented by a majority of the "religious". I beg to differ. The government is starting to shove "un-natural" GLBT down EVERYONE's throat (making illegal the discrimination of sexual orientation over religious liberty). The schools are attempting to do the same with a variety of topics that should be taught at home or via religious instruction (but I realize in some circumstances typically aren't).
I think most people agree with Elders that women should have control of their own bodies. Before pregnancy, and after birth if pregnant. However, with consideration that during pregnancy. they should temporarily willingly relinquish selfish control to the other "body" involved, the baby. We'll probably have to agree to disagree here with what should be political deference to the conservative, safe interpretation in at least most circumstances (here again, legislation vs medical "abilities" vs medical ethics vs "real" ethics).
Last, Elders indicated we are sexual beings from birth to death. Correct. That gives credence to "lust as adulteryt" interpretation, reminding us that the major (the only "real"?) sex organ as being the brain. The other "sex organs" are only genitals used in the process of satisfying the brain (not in "use" near birth and near death (pending the person)). Although, the example in the Bibile might not necessarily be related to "legal concerns", but more to the ideology to show we are imperfect needy beings.
Elders needs to read her Bible instead of leaning on the titles of Dr, Methodist, Christian.
1)Rape is the fault of the raper obviously, but why should the child be punished for this? That baby could go to a family who is in desperate need for a child. I mean there are families who have waited literally years and years for the privilage. You may have not wanted it, but maybe someone else does... how about not being selfish thinking that it's all about you when you could be helping someone else out, after all you "a good person" aren't you?
2) Is there such a thing as mindless ************? No. Take it from a guy who used to ************ often, when a man or a woman ************ they do so while thinking lustful thoughts about another person or even a fantasy person and such lustful thoughts as Jesus said are sinful. Also you have no idea how evil pornography is, if you really think it's good you're fooling yourself. It is an addiction, it ruins marriages, it alters a person's sexual experience negatively, and it perverts a person's morals. google information about pornography and you'll find how it warps peoples minds, especially those who get into it when they're young.
3) LOL. Wow that is funny. You say you're Christian yet you find Abortion to be good...? LOL Ok what about all those Bible verses that says murder is a sin, that life is precious, life begins at conception, and even the verses of God getting mad at people killing their kids? But ok let's ignore that thought for a second and instead let's apply your argument in the exact same way only with a different subject. Midwest_Ben "Murder is a sin according to the 10 commandments" Critic: "HEY! Don't be so judgmental!!! There is nothing wrong with people who like to stab." *sigh* Lady are you kidding me? All Christine's saying is what Jesus said she's not going "All you people are perverts you should be ashamed, I'm better than you for not being perverted!" Look saying something is bad is not being judgmental, treating people like they're not human or assuming a person does something when they're not being is judgmental there is a difference.