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November 23, 2009 7:29 PM

Dems Already Done In By Buyers' Remorse?

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Charles Cooper
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5696255Whenever the Republicans fear that the political gods are aligned against them, they can always find cheer in knowing that at least they are not the Democrats.

Over the weekend, the Democrats got the 60 votes they needed in order to move their health care proposal onto the floor of the United States Senate for debate. A lot of good it did them. The moment faded almost immediately after key blue dog Democrats ran to the microphones to oppose any bill carrying a public option provision. The only celebration going on within Democratic circles was limited to the ranks of Panglossian optimists and congenital spinmeisters (often, one and the same.)

But this is shaping up to be a lot less than advertised. No less a party personage than the Democratic National Convention chairman Howard Dean spent Monday giving voice to the growing concern shared by Democratic activists about the way this story is unfolding. Speaking with the Huffington Post, Dean said that health care reform was in "deep trouble" and that Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid likely would need a miracle to win the day.

"I didn't anticipate being in this position. I thought it would pass. Maybe Harry has some magic up his sleeve. But I don't see how he gets those four votes [Sens. Joseph Lieberman (Conn.), Mary Landrieu (La.), Blanche Lincoln (Ark.) and Ben Nelson (Neb.)] without compromising the bill." Check out his on-air interview with MSNBC's Dylan Ratigan, where he offered a blunt critique of his fellow Democrats:



This rates as quite the memorable moment. Even with their commanding numerical lead in Congress, the Democrats still can't summon the necessary party discipline to pass their political agenda. Remarkably, the few Senate holdouts - or at least those playing hard-to-get - are showing the rest of Washington D.C. how the game ought be played. Louisiana's Mary Landrieu played her cards beautifully in gouging the administration for an extra $100 million for her state - and this just to get Landrieu's vote to proceed with the debate. No telling how much of a bribe she'll demand for Louisiana in order to get her to support something that even remotely resembles the health bill that Mr. Obama wants.

Watching the negotiations between the sides. Washington Monthly's Steve Benen had it right when he wrote that "Lieberman, Nelson, & Co. don't much care if this once-in-a-generation opportunity implodes, while reform advocates care very much. These rather obvious bargaining positions create a playing field that is anything but level."

The liberal-left wing of the Democratic Party's been down this road before - recalling Democratic support to authorize the use of force against Iraq - and they're afraid of another double cross. In this case, they fear that the leadership will trade away too much in order to win enough votes for passage. (Dean warned as much in his MSNBC appearance, suggesting that conservative Democrats opposing the public option are trying to turn the bill into a "hodgepodge of nonsense.")

And here's the danger for the party leadership: If the legislation bears little resemblance to the lofty promise articulated in President Obama's address to Congress last February, there's real risk that Democratic activists will sit on their hands in 2010.

If that's the case, maybe half a loaf is worse than nothing at all.

  • Charles Cooper is an executive editor at CNET News. He has covered technology and business for more than 25 years, working at CBSNews.com, the Associated Press, Computer & Software News, Computer Shopper, PC Week, and ZDNet. E-mail Charlie.

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by Omnivorous November 26, 2009 3:48 PM EST
The Dems are sweating becuase thier vote fraud machine has been compromised.

With 60% of the country identifying themselves as "conservative", they know they are in for it.

Forget about the Republicrats numbers. Voters are going to vote to take down government a peg. If the Rino's refuse to do it, they will also be replaced.
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by vessey November 24, 2009 8:43 PM EST
this bill already is a "hodgepodge of nonsense"
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by RegVoter November 24, 2009 11:24 AM EST
?Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts."

? Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan
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by Brokennews November 24, 2009 10:31 AM EST
"I didn't anticipate being in this position. I thought it would pass. Maybe Harry has some magic up his sleeve.'

Howard Dean




Hardly inspiring a level confidence that people will be get behind. If Dems are already bummed about the bill, then how can people feel good about supporting it. Dems need to choke down the bile, look into the camera, smile & keep telling us that the bill is enjoys widespread support & success is in the bag. (Yeah, I know. Lies are bad, but this is politics) Otherwise, more & more people will have Howard Deans point of view.
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by Brokennews November 24, 2009 11:05 AM EST
Not looking for a debate, just made an observation. Besides, if Dem leaders have lost enthusiasm for the bill, why should I or anybody else stay interested. Something tells me that you don't like the direction the bill is going & are choking on a little bile yourself. It's OK! Choke it down, keep holding that partisan high & keep telling yourself "Thing are going great!"
by edgy44 November 24, 2009 10:26 AM EST
12 Trillion in debt. We need to balance the budget before the world abandons the dollar. We won't have to worry about health care if the world abandons the dollar. 70% of all dollars are overseas. Guess what happens if they come home? That's right, the dollar is devalued 70%. That means Revolution, and that also means health care will be the least of your worries.
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by edgy44 November 24, 2009 10:23 AM EST
I don't understand why all the money has to go to Washington first, and then be redistributed back to the states. Why not just let the states manage it. It is the United States after all, and not the Soviet Union. Centralized government produces waste. There is no provision in the Constitution concerning health care, thus the people should keep their money in their own State.
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by DomSantos November 24, 2009 9:49 AM EST
Aside from not addressing the real problems of health care, e.g., $10,000/day hospitalizaton costs, when the out-of-touch members of Congress agree to be covered by the same healthcare plan they are trying to mandate for we serfs, then and only then will I consider supporting it.
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by hungry1968-17 November 24, 2009 9:56 AM EST
"Mandate"?

You obviously have NO CLUE what you're talking about.
by hungry1968-17 November 24, 2009 9:45 AM EST
by brian1920 November 24, 2009 8:37 AM EST
Yes and if the French want top notch medical care, they fly to the US. So does the rest of the world.






Care to guess again?

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/08/03/BUGA121GPF.DTL&type=health

" The two reports show potential big savings for U.S. consumers - and probably their health insurers - would come at the cost of American hospitals and doctors losing billions of dollars a year in revenue.

"Significant numbers of people are willing to vote with their feet to try something different, whether it's retail clinics or medical tourism," said Paul Keckley, the center's executive director. "U.S. providers are having to pay attention."

He cites patient dissatisfaction with high costs, long waits in the doctor's office or to get a procedure, and reports about errors and quality problems in U.S. health facilities as fueling both trends.

Surgery in some of the countries that have become hubs for medical tourism, from Thailand and Singapore to Mexico and Brazil, can cost less than half the U.S. price, even when including outlays for airfare, hotel and meals abroad. In a few cases, procedures overseas can cost one-tenth as much, Keckley said.

Many of these countries actively market their programs in wealthier nations and have new, 21st-century hospitals. Most of their physicians are trained in the United States and know all the latest techniques, according to Keckley and Michael Taylor, a global health consultant at Towers Perrin."

"About 750,000 Americans headed abroad for major health care last year and an estimated 1.5 million will do so this year, according to the report."
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by stillunbanable November 24, 2009 8:12 AM EST
This health care reform did nothing but sell america out to insurance companies. Obama's next plan is to get in bed with the porn industry by claiming copyright law changes are a matter of national security. How is protecting porn a matter of national security? Yup, lotsa money in porn. Or, should I say, lotsa money in politician's pockets from porn.
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by I_am_me1953 November 24, 2009 8:16 AM EST
?????????????????????????
by stillunbanable November 24, 2009 9:51 AM EST
"stillunbanable, what are you talking about? "

Obama is in secret talks with many nations on rewriting the copyright laws. He has declared this a matter of national security. Therefore, he will by circumventing the legal laws of voting, just as bush had done on many issues. Who is to benefit? Porn industry, movie industry, music industry and software industry. Please educate yourself. Don't take my word.
by GulfFrit November 24, 2009 8:09 AM EST
That $100 million figure is wrong - Ms. Landrieu said it was $300 million, and added that she isn't a cheap date.
It's disingenuous of you to suggest there's any real debate on this. Now that the Dems have bribed enough Senators for the 60 votes needed to debate the bill, all they need is 50 votes to pass it. They (and the author of this article) want to convince us that the Dems have misgivings about this monstrosity to appease the majority of Americans who DON'T want it. They really don't care what we think.
I hope you people are satisfied.
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