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Charles Cooper /

CNET/ September 12, 2009, 11:25 PM

D.C. Tea Party Size Turns Into Misquote City

(AP Photo/Jose Luis Magana)
For the folks who believe Saturday's Washington Mall protest is a harbinger of political change, crowd size obviously matters. Unfortunately, they couldn't get their numbers straight.

Earlier in the day, Senator Jim DeMint, (R-SC) said the New York Times was reporting that only about 500 people had showed up at the Mall. (Go to the 1:17 mark to hear his spiel.) On cue, the crowd lustily booed at the mention of this most elite of East Coast elite media institutions.

Where DeMint read that story remains a mystery. Seconds after hearing his claim, I clicked over to the Times piece by Jeff Zeleny which noted in the headline that "thousands" had turned out for the rally. Here was his lede:

"A sea of protesters filled the west lawn of the Capitol and spilled onto the National Mall on Saturday in the largest rally against President Obama since he took office, a culmination of a summer-long season of protests that began with opposition to a health care overhaul and grew into a broader dissatisfaction with government." Sure sounds like more than 500.

But DeMint's exaggeration was just a warm-up. Matt Kibbe, president of FreedomWorks, the conservative organization behind the event, told the protesters that ABC News was reporting that 1 million to 1.5 million people had showed up. At the same time, the U.K.'s Daily Mail put out an estimate of up to 2 million people attending the day's festivities.

At that point, the floodgates of enthusiasm washed through the blogosphere. Predictable cheerleader Michelle Malkin wrote that she heard the turnout was estimated at 2 million. (She wasn't at the event but that didn't stop her from hitting the "publish" button.) By Saturday night, however, ABC printed a story denying it had ever reported the 1 to 1.5 million number. (Malkin later published an acknowledgment that FreedomWorks was in error.)

Newsbuster's Matthew Sheffield was equally exultant but put out a lower estimate. "Estimates for crowd sizes are starting to come in. We're talking at least a million people, folks," he wrote.

And on and on it went throughout the day. In the end, the Saturday protest seems fated to end up as another of those events where the numbers — as well as the historical import — remain in the eye of the beholder. In the absence of any reliable arbiter of crowd size, this much seems clear: the tea party movement generated a respectable turnout for the cameras, so chalk it up as yet another in a long line of Washington protests over the decades.

But a mass movement ready to shake the foundations of establishment power? Not by a long shot.

. . . Update . . .

Nate Silver has an interesting post up Sunday where he mulls the predictable propensity of both right and left to spin events to fit their respective political agendas. Neither side can take much comfort in his spot-on conclusion:

"This was not a small rally. It was also not, in comparison with something like the 2006 pro-immigration protests, a particularly large rally. It was a business-as-usual sort of rally. Mock the protesters at your peril: business as usual suddenly isn't so good for Democrats these days, and the sentiments of the 70,000 people who marched on Washington surely mirror those of millions more sitting at home. They were done a disservice by being represented by a liar like [FreedomWorks'] Kibbe."
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jokr8790 says:
It looked to me like maybe 10,000 and I'm sure their transportation was paid for by "Americans for CEO Prosperity," the front group for big Pharma and the insurance companies.
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licht1 says:
Marchers came to DC from all across the country, from Sun City to Leisure World.

See:

http://notionscapital.wordpress.com/2009/09/17/march-of-the-disgruntled-in-dc/
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thinking-patriot says:
Why are you even arguing about this event. It happened. I was there. It was HUGE! And it was bi-partisan. I'd call that a serious movement.

And like you said, Coop... "nobody asked you".
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Peoplewatcher says:
Nobody in their right mind, can honestly believe those outrageous lies being spread around. especially after being proven wrong. These people are just hard core Republicans, sticking to their base and doing what their leaders tell them. They will say or do whatever it takes to stay in this high society club. That's why they change their story when ever you call them out. They want the control no matter the cost to civilization. They're the most unreasonable self indulged humanistic group on this planet.

These wacko groups keep talking about socialism and most don't even know what it means.
By the way the Republicans help big corporations monopolize, you could say the Republican party is communism. (Definition: a system of social organization in which all economic and social activity is controlled by a totalitarian state dominated by a single and self-perpetuating political party.) Sound familiar? That's right Republican lies, and refusing to find common ground on anything. They want it there way or no way. Together we stand divided we fall!
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Jotunes says:
Geez!! :) Yhis i first comment in along time thats got it right
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babooph says:
Only thousands-in the early 1900s ,did the Klan not march in DC with millions??Seems like a mellowing,though that is not great media.
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gunownerdan says:
Dirty democrats and rotten republicans will stop at nothing to lie to the American people!
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velma179 says:
by rainbowroosie September 13, 2009 6:50 PM EDT
My answer will come in the next election...I'm an independent, but I'm voting against every incumbent Republican AND Democrat.

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In the next national election you will have only... ONE to THREE votes. The House Of Representatives are all going to be up for election, so you will have that ONE vote for your District's Rep to the House.
If either or both of your Senators are up for re-election in 2010, you'll also have another one or two votes.

Of course, your State and Local government may also have representatives on the ballot for this election... which may give you a few more votes -- but still only in specific district races.

My point: NOBODY gets to vote for "every incumbent Republican AND Democrat".

Health care certainly needs an overhaul -- but dang! Maybe we should have dealt with EDUCATION first. There are so many people that don't understand basic principles of government or business ... and the use of the English language you see on these boards... horrendous (= another word for awful).

Clearly there is a distinction between people with education and people without ... it DOES fall on ideological lines. That is so CLEAR.

I will continue to vote for the smartest candidate -- regardless of political affiliation.
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Schooner131 says:
I have never seen so many stupid dumb*ss comments in all of my life. Number 1, not everyone at this and other protests are conservative. Number 2, he DID lie so grow up. Number 3, if 'faux' news as you jerks call it, didn't exist, would we have heard about this and other news pertaining to anyone other than liberals? Why wouldn't more illegals show up for a protest-99% of them live off of people like me who has worked my butt off my whole life paying taxes for YOU to live here. I have been listening to you bed-wetting liberals p*ss and moan from 2000 to 2008. GET OVER IT. The people who pay taxes and work for a living have a complaint. Try watching someone other than that pervert Bill Maher to get your news. Need a diaper change do ya?
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noloyalisti says:
Anything that is advertised on Faux News must be a right wing extremist lie. When do they actually get embarrassed by their low-life, hate-mongering employees?
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Schooner131 replies:
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Grow up and watch real news. You might learn something. PMSNBC doesn't provide anything helpful.
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