March 5, 2010 6:52 PM

Amanda Knox Bombshell: Convicted Killer Rudy Guede Told Cellmate Knox Didn't Do It, Says Paper

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Amanda Knox, on trial for murder in Perugia, Italy

Amanda Knox during court proceedings on Feb. 6, 2009.

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NEW YORK (CBS) The Italian newspaper La Repubblica and some Italian national television networks are reporting tonight a new version of events in the controversial Amanda Knox murder case in Perugia, Italy.

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Knox, 22, and her former boyfriend Raffaele Sollecito, 25, were convicted of the murder of Meredith Kercher, along with a third man, Rudy Guede. Sollecito's attorneys, in conducting their own investigation, have interviewed a former cellmate of Rudy Guede.

Guede, 23, allegedly admitted to his cellmate that Amanda and Raffaele were not with him when Meredith Kercher was murdered.

Rudy Guede

Rudy Guede

(Credit: AP Photo/Italian Police)

Rudy Guede in his own trial had told the court that both Amanda and Raffaele were there and participated in the murder of the 21-year-old British student.

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In the dramatic new statement Guede's cellmate claims that Rudy Guede told him there was another person with him but it was not Amanda or Raffaele.

The cellmate's testimony was videotaped and submitted to the prosecutor's office in Perugia.

Valter Biscotti, a lawyer for Rudy Guede, however, points out: "My client has never mentioned this aspect of the story."

Knox is currently serving a 26-year sentence. Sollecito is serving 25. Guede is serving 16. All three are appealing their convictions.

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by hillarynow October 4, 2011 1:24 AM EDT
Someone should beat Rudy Guede's head in. He slashed a beautiful innocent girl's throat, raped her and stabbed her to death. He is a pig, a liar and a drug dealer. He should be beaten to death in prison, he deserves nothing less.
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by toldyouso21 March 8, 2010 1:45 AM EST
I once asked my friend if he had ever lied on anyone in Prison. He said most of what he did was lie. he said he was often asked to sign saying he heard or saw something he was no where around for.

I asked him why he did it. He looked me straight in the eye--and said it was because he wanted to live. If he had not signed sworn statements another snitch would have and he would have been sent back to general. He said by the time he got caught up in the snitching if he had been returned to general the other cons probably would have killed him.

He spent almost the rest of 3 years in PC. You have to be reviewed in PC to see if whatever has you there is still a credible threat. For a snitch, you have to always be willing to be a witness or get someone else to be a witness. YOu have to lie.

To his mind, it was lie or die. I asked him what kind of lies he told. he said nothing big and probably nothing that people were not guilty of. According to him, people got everything from solitary, to more time added on, privileges taken and a one or two got a lot of time or were denied parole due to stuff he had snitched about.

They say the guy who killed him was mad because he got more time and ended up getting beaten due to my friend snitching. My friend enjoyed about 2 years out before the other guy got out and shot him.

the point is this--snitches RARELY get time shaved off or privileges other than the privilege to be protected. When you hear of reduced sentencing it is usually plea bargaining RARELY for one person telling on another. What snitches do get is a special exercise yard and latrine away from the people who might want to hurt them--but they often are threatened with being turned over to the people they lied or told on.


the thing is snitches often do NOT hear the stuff they sign or agree to and a snitch can only be used a few times before he must be sent to another prison due to him becoming too familiar ....My friend served over 7 years of a 21 year sentence and of those, he probably only snitched 6 or 7 times and signed statements even less. He did not get or ask for protective custody after he had served over 4 years at one prison. He thought he was safe--but cons have a long time to think and plan revenge. He managed to go to a minimal security facility for his last years in--then out on probation and he actually promised himself he would never go back. he didn't. In the end--the snitching and the snitched came to him and the thing is--the guy told many people to keep his cell warm, because he planned on killing my friend if it was the last thing he did.

snitches go into protective custody to be safe--and they are forced to snitch or lie and pretend to hear stuff--whatever the guards want,NO body cares about them. I seriously doubt that a real person actually heard Guede say anything. But I also believe that any number of snitches will be willing to sign statements that claim they heard him say stuff--after all, the alternative might cost them to be returned into general population--in which case--they just die or are tortured/killed that much sooner.
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by toldyouso21 March 8, 2010 1:09 AM EST
I have had many of my schoolmates and friends go to prison. (Male and female) 3 were known snitches. All are dead now. 1 was shanked in prison. the other two got out but were hunted down by people they told on while in jail.

I don't know what happened in the shanking but for at least one of the hunted--he went to prison for possession of weed, he was repeatedly raped and went into PC--he is the one who told me that PC is a death sentence and told me how it all works. I have talked to many prison guards and they agree--PC is a sure way to make all other cons hate you and want you dead.

In the case of my friend, he went into PC to stop the rapes--but he was told to spy on a friend--when he refused--they made the case and said my friend had told on the guy. After that, he had to spy to keep his place in PC (Protective custody) It did not matter that he really did not snitch (at firsty) them saying he did was believed--because they kept him in PC. The guards only protect what they value.

Prison is a world unto itself. When my friend got out--he got a job at a barbershop. A person who believed he ratted him out, got out--came to where he worked and shot him. It was payback for snitching.

A snitch is never safe. So it is very UNLIKELY that anyone just "happened to hear or overhear Guede" and wanted to tell--it does not work that way and the only person who would say that was a person with nothing to lose --odds are high he would be lying--but with his life on the line if he refused--he would agree to saying what he overheard--after all, Guede has years to go--and the snitch must live through Today....tommorrow or at some point, he will be made to "overhear" or be the 'confidante' of someone else. This is how it is played.

Sorry FOA crowd--you need to find your great "hope" another way.
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by toldyouso21 March 8, 2010 12:38 AM EST
Obviously, most of you know little to NOTHING about snitches. Snitches are turned. This means they are made. But NO ONE starts out wanting to be a snitch because once it is known you are a snitch, you have to be protected at all times and you are living on borrowed time.

you guys act like a person snitches just to get a reduced sentence or a reward. That is NOT usually why a person snitches. they snitch because they are told to. Snitches are often threatened with rape or murder or being turned over to the people they have ratted on if they do not cooperate. In order for a snitch to stay protected they must periodically produce valuable information or produce information on demand. if the person they are told to bunk with (and they are placed together) does not talk--they will LIE and make it up--why? Because if they don't do it--they might be left alone in the shower or returned out of protective custody into general pop.

YOu people think snitches are some do gooders? They are not--they are desperate people who just want to live another day--and if they have to lie or make up stuff to do so--they will. Most snitches are not offered any reward except not to get their head broken or not to have to live in the dorms--many snitches have been gang raped and beaten and PC (protective custody) is their only refuge.

All it takes is for "someone" to hand a supervisor a wad of money saying it would be 'nice' if Guede 'confessed' the snitch is told he will have a new roommate and he needs to get a confession--he would be told that if he can't--then it just got full in PC and he will be returned to General Population--BACK with all of the people who he has ever ratted out--that is a DEATH SENTENCE.

So when you hear a snitch is talking the real deal is:

1. Who placed the snitch in with Guede
2. has the snitch ever told on anyone else before
3. Did the guard or supvr who put the snitch in come into some money or cash
4. Has the snitch been threatened with anything before becoming the new roomie of Guede.

The number one rule in prison (besides do not shower alone or drop the soap) is DON"T snitch. Snitches are dead men walking.

the only ones of you who think a snitch just happened to tell on Guede know NOTHING about prison or what goes on in them. REad up--NO ONE snitches in prison except those whose only currency is information--and they ONLY do it to protect their life--NOT for reduced sentences. Because almost EVERYONE from the murderer to the thief in jail knows the same rule--KILL THE SNITCH--so no one does it --and certainly, no one does it to protect some American or any other person.

the other rule in prison is :KEEP TO YOURSELF AND LOOK OUT FOR #1-- now--for a snitch--can you guess what THAT means?
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by ksmit2 March 7, 2010 12:08 PM EST
When people like this are in the slammer, they have all the time in the
world to concoct every story in imaginable. No one else happened to mention
"the other person". These folks delight in pushing our buttons, and they
are quite good at what buttons to push. It is unfortunate that news
services jump on every third class lie that pops out of a convicted
rat's mouth. There's your 15 seconds of fame I suppose.
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by andacar March 7, 2010 3:51 AM EST
The obvious problem with this is: why didn't he say this before? Why now, when they are both convicted? If he wanted to save her, then during trial would have ben the obvious time to speak up.
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by hillarynow October 4, 2011 1:32 AM EDT
simple, because before he agreed with investigators in his deal with them to get a reduced sentence for incuding them. once he was jailed it no longer mattered, and he is an idiot, so he likely didn't think his cell mate would rat on him and I think he dd tell his cell mate they didn't do it. the only thing in question in my opinion is, was it a second person with guede like he also told his cell mate, or did he act alone. either way he is right where he belongs, only he should die in there, that would make it complete. 16 years is nothing for what this disgusting pig did.
by seezero1 March 7, 2010 3:11 AM EST
Hey, Valter, what "aspect of the story". I think you're talking in circles. If your client would have told the truth, Amanda and her boyfriend would be free today, blockhead.
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by denvermorgan3000 March 7, 2010 2:59 PM EST
amanda knox case has not revealed? all his secrets, the next few days and announce the call may be what really happened? pending .. amanda courage and remains "wise" you'll have better luck
bye ..
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by rwsmith29456 March 6, 2010 11:27 PM EST
Acting like a goofball all the time she was accused of murder didn't help Knox's case on bit. If a mistake was made here she's the primary cause. If the comment is credible they can let her out and say "leave and don't come back".
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by toldyouso21 March 6, 2010 10:23 PM EST
NOW WAIT A MINUTE: We are not getting a confession from Guede? We are getting that someone heard that someone else said....? RIIIIIGHT. It 's kind of pathetic to grasp at straws--like why in the world would Guede tell his "cellmate" anything?

And how many other confessions around this prison and others has this special (and no doubt, mobile) cell mate heard?
ROTFLMBO
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by marvincoston March 6, 2010 11:50 PM EST
Because prisoners have very little to do but talk. Sometimes, in a moment of candor, they tell their cell mate the truth.
by IndiasWorstTechSupport March 7, 2010 1:03 AM EST
yes and after they tell their cellmate they usually kill them after that.
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by toldyouso21 March 6, 2010 9:14 PM EST
wONDER HOW MUCH THE KNOX FAMILY paid for that blurb like an African serving time for murder gives a flying ---- what happens to a rich American kid. if this man was in anyway involved in killing the Engllish girl--then we are to believe he somehow is ruthless enough to rape and murder one girl but wants to exonerate amanda?

Dollars to doughnuts theres either a pay off or extortion if he even said anything....
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by ellenmason March 9, 2010 6:16 PM EST
This is not a rich American. She does not come from money.
I thought they had another young man the morning after the murder found in a fountain washing off blood saying I killed her. A young female reporter told the story and was immediately shut-up. Permanently. Not another word about him. He was supposedly put in a mental institution.It was in the bool monster in florence.
The judge is a rotten human being, hell bent on having his version of the motive believed. All these people are afraid of him b/c he is vindictive and crazy. He has imprisioned several innocent people in the past. He is facing a jail sentence himself for lying and cheating. Who's not to say he hasn't tampered with the evidence in this case. the evidence is weak.
The family of the boy needs to do something.
by hillarynow October 4, 2011 1:42 AM EDT
he never wanted to exonerate amanda, he told investigators she was the murderer with her boyfriend who stabbed meredith. for that, amanda and her boyfriend, both innocent, wrongfully accused, slandered and prosecuted suffered behind bars for what --> guede did. his reward for his story to investigators was a reduced sentence from 25 down to 16 years. that was the deal he made. in jail, obviously, his guilt got to him and in private he told his cell mate it wasn't amanda, because it wasn't amanda. guede didn't take the stand in her defense did he? he later denied saying it wasn't her in fact, he didn't want to exonerate anyone. he is a liar, a pig and a murderer. 16 years is not enough.
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