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December 24, 2012 10:16 AM

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N.Y. Firefighter Shooting: Four firefighters reportedly shot, two dead while battling blaze in upstate N.Y.

By: Crimesider Staff
Topics: Daily Blotter

Four firefighters were shot while battling a blaze in Webster, NY

/ WROC

(CBS/AP) WEBSTER, N.Y. - Two firefighters are dead and two more injured after being shot while battling a blaze in upstate New York on Monday morning, reports CBS affiliate WROC.

Police Chief Gerald Pickering says "one or more shooters" fired at the firefighters when they arrived at the scene of the blaze near the Lake Ontario shore just east of Rochester at around 6 a.m.

Police have surrounded the neighborhood and are searching for the shooter.

Officials say the firefighters were at the scene of a fire that started in one home has spread to two others and a car.

WROC reports that fire officials are currently letting the houses burn because the scene is not secure, and the station's photographer says that one house has collapsed from the fire.

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by Bushwhacker527 December 24, 2012 11:58 AM EST: This country is on the road to going full retard..

I've known this for sometime.

Listen, anybody that worships inanimate objects, you know like guns, cars, money and the like has a serious problem and should be barred from owning firearms.

That would include the vast majority of the American people.; Reply to this comment

by Cazic December 24, 2012 11:48 AM EST

Maybe there was live rounds in the house and they went off and hit the fire fighters.... Might not have even been a shooter after all praying for the familys affected.

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by svandamme December 24, 2012 2:03 PM EST: Live rounds in a fire aren't nearly as dangerous as rounds in a rifle.
Live rounds need the be enclosed to build up the pressure to launch the projectile.. When not in a chamber, the brass shell cannot contain the pressure and bursts.. the projectile might move a bit, but not nearly at the speeds it normally does.. the biggest danger is brass shrapnell, but that won't penetrate a heavy coat such as the ones used by firemen..

This is another tragedy born in the mind of an insane person...


by tbrown17 December 24, 2012 11:43 AM EST: Now the NRA will demand armed guards on every firetruck to first secure the neighborhood before firefighters can dismount and begin to battle the blaze.; Reply to this comment

by eloher December 24, 2012 11:37 AM EST

"You have taken God out of our society and now you have a Godless and lawless society."
This is irrational. If your god is omnipotent, how could society throw him out?
Epicurus:
"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?"

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by Jonseen December 25, 2012 6:17 AM EST: Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? --- God allows free-will; therefore there is Evil as well as Good depending on the choices that WE make.

Is God able, or willing to prevent evil? -- He is completely able, and very willing: God has promised an end to Evil at an appointed time.

Where does Evil come from? -- From ourselves: primarily our own selfishness.

Why call Him God? -- You most certainly will, sooner or later. It is generally recommended that you start on it sooner.


by ArleneVella December 24, 2012 11:34 AM EST: NRA says to put an armed guard in every fire truck.; Reply to this comment


by skiimaan December 24, 2012 11:32 AM EST: It might be the "result' of another bad billion dollar combination of guns, violent video games, violent movies. The plot might be an arson fire to trick firemen into an ambush. Watching, playing with virtual reality was not enough for some sick minded people who got access to guns. They wanted to make it real.; Reply to this comment

by forumcomments December 24, 2012 11:30 AM EST

I think there should be an honest discussion about gun control and possible changes. Below is a wikipedia link that list various laws in different states. Many states with high gun crime have very restrictive gun laws.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_the_United_States_by_state

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by ThomasSense December 24, 2012 12:33 PM EST: Correlate that with high population centers or gang population.


by cronkiter December 24, 2012 11:30 AM EST: Instead of making snide comments, how about something thoughtful, meaningful or perhaps even compassion for the firemen's family?

Just a thought. It's much easier to target a group or blame an object for the ills of society, isn't it?

Carry on then.; Reply to this comment

by judymar14 December 24, 2012 11:29 AM EST

This is common in inner-cities when not only firemen are called out or an ambulance needed. Start with gun-control in urban communities. The % of killings will drop dramaticly.

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by TheRealKingMax December 24, 2012 11:33 AM EST: You have no idea what you're talking about, judy. Zero, zilch, nada. But thanks for sharing your ignorance.


by ThomasSense December 24, 2012 12:38 PM EST: King: Higher density of population will intensify problems. No jobs causes desperation.
Judy: People will buy guns where there are the least gun control, just like they buy cigarettes and alcohol across states or counties.


by Quantummist December 24, 2012 1:31 PM EST: Care to explain how Gun Control has helped in Washington DC, Chicago, Detroit and other urban communities? Since all of those areas have the toughest laws in existence... As far as I know there has never been a item banned in the US that was not easily obtainable by anyone that wanted it... If you can show me anything that has ever been banned that didn't cause more problems than before banning it I would be glad to give it a look....


by Ziondaughter December 24, 2012 11:28 AM EST: Another mental patient on the loose; Reply to this comment

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